BrandNewBrandon Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) 13 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: Literally none of the girls you named have been bigger than Taylor in Latin America for at least half a decade I don't think you need to be currently big to sell out stadiums as evident by what Coldplay's doing. I'm pretty sure the record-holder for biggest opening day on Spotify before Taylor's Midnights in Brazil was Lady Gaga's Chromatica so it seems you're wrong. Again. (Again as in that Google Trends part where you claimed Taylor had beaten Gaga's traction ) Edited March 10 by BrandNewBrandon 1
airplane Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Taylor is finally going to territories the girls stepped in decades ago… troll thread? 7
The Music Industry Posted March 10 Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: I'm pretty sure the record-holder for biggest opening day on Spotify before Taylor's Midnights in Brazil was Lady Gaga's Chromatica so it seems you're wrong. Again. First of all, why are you trying to limit this specifically to Brazil when my post was about Latin America as a whole? You always try to limit conversations to push specific narratives And wrong about what, exactly? Taylor has factually been bigger than Gaga in Latin America for years, including in 2020. 4 1
BrandNewBrandon Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: First of all, why are you trying to limit this specifically to Brazil when my post was about Latin America as a whole? You always try to limit conversations to push specific narratives And wrong about what, exactly? Taylor has factually been bigger than Gaga in Latin America for years, including in 2020. You initially posted that none of them can tour Latin America because they aren't as big as Taylor which is ridiculous since touring doesn't = current chart domination. Adele, Lady Gaga and Rihanna could very well be selling out stadiums in Latin America despite not being as big as Taylor. The whole point of this thread is why other girls aren't touring Latin America and your reply is because currently Taylor is more popular than them. That's wrong. Most of Latin America doesn't have official charts in all areas to judge these other MPGs well. But Brazil has and that's the comparison as an example to your very often flawed logic. Edited March 10 by BrandNewBrandon 2
The Music Industry Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 minute ago, BrandNewBrandon said: You initially posted that none of them can tour Latin America because they aren't as big as Taylor You just love putting words into people's mouths Literally the only post I had in this thread was to correct what you said about Taylor's peers being bigger than her in Latin America by pointing out that literally none of the people you named have been bigger than her in the continent for at least half a decade. 1
BrandNewBrandon Posted March 10 Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: You just love putting words into people's mouths Literally the only post I had in this thread was to correct what you said about Taylor's peers being bigger than her in Latin America by pointing out that literally none of the people you named have been bigger than her in the continent for at least half a decade. And it would've been an obvious takeaway from my initial post that it's not about her current status but overall since touring and concerts aren't about current popularity. You of course thought I was saying they are all bigger than Taylor currently but I meant that overall (reached bigger peaks, more hits). Everyone knows that they aren't as big now.
Fleahive Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 To the people saying ___ did ten years ago. Okay but they haven’t in their last few tours so that’s why I’m asking what changed.
PoisonedIvy Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) 19 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: You just love putting words into people's mouths Literally the only post I had in this thread was to correct what you said about Taylor's peers being bigger than her in Latin America by pointing out that literally none of the people you named have been bigger than her in the continent for at least half a decade. 14 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: And it would've been an obvious takeaway from my initial post that it's not about her current status but overall since touring and concerts aren't about current popularity. You of course thought I was saying they are all bigger than Taylor currently but I meant that overall (reached bigger peaks, more hits). Everyone knows that they aren't as big now. Yall argue like a married couple in so many different threads Edited March 10 by PoisonedIvy 1
Into The Void Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Not pop girls but both Niall and the Jonas Brothers are touring Asia and LATAM this year
Storm653 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 51 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: Literally none of the girls you named have been bigger than Taylor in Latin America for at least half a decade Gaga is definitely more famous than Taylor in LA even if her latest music isn't smashing. Adele's peak was bigger than Taylor's too. And Rihanna's music is more widely played. That said, Taylor is hands down bigger than Beyonce in LA and has been for years so I'm not sure why that poster mentioned her. The only argument you can make for Beyonce is Brazil but Taylor is popular in Brazil too. Taylor's music is at minimum twice as popular as Bey's in Mexico, Central America, and Argentina alone.
gustavothehuman Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Because they are money hungry. Also, it's kind of hilarious saying "besides Taylor" when she spent most of her career ignoring the rest of the world more than any other pop girl 5
UnusualBoy Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) Huh? This is the first time Taylor put a foot in LATAM and she debuted almost 20 years. Some of the other girls were already touring here on their first or 2nd eras… Anyway, this is about logistics and ofc demand. Edited March 10 by UnusualBoy 6
Windy Day Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, shimind said: 1) Asians dont enjoy sexually explicit artists like gaga or beyonce... who basically wear nothing on stage. 2) Poverty. 3) influence of local artists and Bollywood is far more. ?? gaga did two sold out stadiums in seoul a decade before taylor even tour in asia and recently did two domes in japan gaga also has songs with twice as much unique listeners than taylor on korean domestic streaming platforms lol
Giancor Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, rigo said: A good example is the Eras Tour going to countries like Chile or Peru. Some organizers shed light on the why not. Some acts require that venues, technology, infrastructure, etc are at the level to replicate what’s being put out on other markets. If the conditions are not present or requirements can’t be fulfilled the act skips the country. This.
VioletsandRoses Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Windy Day said: ?? gaga did two sold out stadiums in seoul a decade before taylor even tour in asia and recently did two domes in japan gaga also has songs with twice as much unique listeners than taylor on korean domestic streaming platforms lol Atrl thinks Asia=SEA. Taylor’s stats in SEA/India/China are amazing. Decent in Japan/Tawain. Poor in South Korea and Northern Asia ala Russia. Gaga is stronger in SK, Japan, Taiwan, Northern Asia. But she lost SEA because of the whole religious fiasco in 2011. Beyoncé was also huge in SK (I’m sure she’s the best selling foreign digital artist there) and she has good stats in Japan too. Her and Taylor have similar sales there. Alicia Keys was big in SEA but kinda weak in Japan/SK. Every part of Asia prefers different variants of music. Most of our pop faves are capitalist. They’ll act like they care and love all their fans but that’s obviously not true. If it’s not bringing them money then it’s not worth it. Sad to see but it’s the truth. Gaga, Adele and Beyonce are the top 3 biggest artists in Brazil and haven’t step foot there in years. Besides beyonce just late last year.
Richie.Valdez Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Britney was already playing the Tokyo Dome when Taylor was like 12
wish Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Billie has literally toured stadiums in Latin America and Asia 2
burninredhot Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Windy Day said: a decade before taylor even tour in asia Taylor did shows in Hong Kong, Indonesia, Philippines etc during Speak Now tour. do you research mama
brenda-walsh Posted March 10 Posted March 10 logistics and profitability to transport everything there like other people said, all the girls have already toured there. for example, beyonce already toured there almost 20 years ago with the B'day Experience. Gaga went all around the world, etc even Dua sold out the biggest venues across LATAM with her tour
shimind Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Windy Day said: ?? gaga did two sold out stadiums in seoul a decade before taylor even tour in asia and recently did two domes in japan gaga also has songs with twice as much unique listeners than taylor on korean domestic streaming platforms lol umm Asia is not just Japan and SK. There are far bigger countries like China and India
suburbannature Posted March 10 Posted March 10 17 minutes ago, shimind said: umm Asia is not just Japan and SK. There are far bigger countries like China and India Mariah went to Asia in 1996, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2014, 2018, 2019 to Latin America in 2004, 2016, 2019 Asia Breakdown: 1996 - Japan (3 stadium shows) 1998 - Japan (4 stadium shows), Taipei (1 stadium show) 2000 - Japan (3 stadium shows), Singapore (2 stadium shows) 2003 - Japan (10 shows), South Korea (1 show), China (2 stadium shows), Philippines (1 stadium show) 2004 - Malaysia (1 stadium show), United Arab Emirates, Indonesia, Lebanon, Thailand, South Korea 2006 - Japan (6 shows) 2014- China (5 stadium shows), Malaysia (1 stadium show), Singapore (1 stadium show), Japan (2 shows), South Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, Thailand 2018, 2019 - United Arab Emirates, Singapore set records in 1996, 1998 for fastest act to sell out Tokyo Dome (all four shows in under an hour in 1998) set record in 2014 for first Western act to play five Chinese stadiums in a tour 2
queenoftheclouds Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) It Must be the shipping cost. Unknown artists with a little Stage Tour there often. They make good Money otherwise they wouldn't Tour there. Edited March 10 by queenoftheclouds
Alldeezy Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I know barely ANYONE comes to Australia .. Jonas Brothers mentioned last night it was there first time in Australia in 10 years ... like c'mon Avril hasn't toured over here in 20 years .. MGK never came here .. he was set to come over here before covid. like I hate living here .. because nobody EVER comes here and when it does happen tickets are so hard to get because we crave new music from MPS
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