Venice B Posted March 10 Posted March 10 The essays in here oh my god y'all really have nothing better to do OT: apparently these are bad numbers when comparing to taylor swift but okay numbers when comparing to other female artists so that's fine i guess. and the album is good so enjoy the music ariana stans 2
State of Grace. Posted March 10 Posted March 10 4 hours ago, Pop Art said: Someone with the username "False God" having 47 (nearly two full pages worth!) of posts in this Ariana Grande thread... literal mental illness on display 2 4
Blade Runner Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Okay numbers. She definitely isn't as strong as she used to be.
BrandNewBrandon Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, WildHeart said: Are you saying that Eternal Sunshine would have debuted with 23M if it was released in 2019? Yes. It's obviously not performing as well as her previous era and one look at the positions of her songs (not a single #1 on Spotify, highest entry at #5 globally) show you it's obviously a decrease in popularity from her last era but still decent regardless just like it was decent to do 23M in 2019 (Ed Sheeran had the biggest launch in history two years earlier at 10M). So yes, in a 500+ million Spotify landscape Ariana's biggest day is around the same or more than Midnights. Edited March 10 by BrandNewBrandon
ATRL Moderator bluebirdsforever Posted March 10 ATRL Moderator Posted March 10 Are y'all not tired of doing the exact same song and dance every single album release (and yes, that means all of you, on both sides) 3
WildHeart Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) 43 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: So yes, in a 500+ million Spotify landscape Ariana's biggest day is around the same or more than Midnights. No, not even close. Top 200 aka popular music landscape of Spotify didn't grow more than 100 percentage, let alone 150%. The growth comes from growth of smaller artists and bigger reach of users and it is still not close to % of user growth. Just a comparison (today = 27 September 2023, not that different today) 2017 Spotify users - 132M 2023 Spotify users - 517M (3.9x bigger) #5 song (2017 Sept.) - 3.4M #5 song (today) - 4.5M (1.3x bigger) #10 (2017) - 2.5M #10 (today) - 3.8M (1.3x bigger) #25 (2017) - 2.1M #25 (today) - 2.5M (1.2x bigger) #50 (2017) - 1.2M #50 (today) - 1.9M (1.6x bigger) #100 (2017) - 750k #100 (today) - 1.4M (1.8x bigger) #200 (2017) - 490k #200 (today) - 1M (2.1x bigger) As numbers clearly show, streams didn't get 290% bigger like the number of users. Streams of top 50 barely grew by 60% in the last 6-7 years. Midnights / TUN - 2.64x (264%) And no, ES wouldn't have done 23M in 2019. It would do something around 40M considering the % of streaming growth of popular music. Edited March 10 by WildHeart 13
Walk_Away21 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 4 hours ago, Pop Art said: Someone with the username "False God" having 47 (nearly two full pages worth!) of posts in this Ariana Grande thread... Not people getting mad we have activity. These Gen Zers clearly don't remember the 100+ page threads of lashing in Roar vs Applause, Witness, Perfect Illusion, Bionic, and more. This is what ATRL is built on. The mods have turned this into snowflake land apparently. 2 1 7
Walk_Away21 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 4 minutes ago, bluebirdsforever said: Are y'all not tired of doing the exact same song and dance every single album release (and yes, that means all of you, on both sides) Oop exhibit A. A mod who has no understanding of ATRL history. 2
ATRL Moderator bluebirdsforever Posted March 10 ATRL Moderator Posted March 10 12 minutes ago, Walk_Away21 said: Oop exhibit A. A mod who has no understanding of ATRL history. Oh I understand it my good sister, I just marvel at how some of you act brand new by behaving as if the sky is falling and calling the UN on speed dial when your fav is being dragged for their numbers and yet still get your kiis in when it is someone else's turn (with not even the slightest semblance of self-awareness) I'm afraid everybody needs to find some perspective, these numbers are fine so go eat a chocolate chip cookie or something of that ilk idk 8
The Music Industry Posted March 10 Posted March 10 16 minutes ago, WildHeart said: No, not even close. Top 200 aka popular music landscape of Spotify didn't grow more than 100 percentage, let alone 150%. The growth comes from growth of smaller artists and bigger reach of users and it is still not close to % of user growth. Just a comparison (today = 27 September 2023, not that different today) 2017 Spotify users - 132M 2023 Spotify users - 517M (3.9x more) #5 song (2017 Sept.) - 3.4M #5 song (today) - 4.5M (1.3x bigger) #10 (2017) - 2.5M #10 (today) - 3.8M (1.3x bigger) #25 (2017) - 2.1M #25 (today) - 2.5M (1.2x bigger) #50 (2017) - 1.2M #50 (today) - 1.9M (1.6x bigger) #100 (2017) - 750k #100 (today) - 1.4M (1.8x bigger) #200 (2017) - 490k #200 (today) - 1M (2.1x bigger) As numbers clearly show, streams didn't get 290% bigger like the number of users. Streams of top 50 barely grew by 60% in the last 6-7 years. Midnights / TUN - 2.64x (264%) And no, ES wouldn't have done 23M in 2019. It would do something around 40M considering the % of streaming growth of popular music. Not you coming through with the FACTS
Popular Post Extremely Stable Posted March 10 Popular Post Posted March 10 1 hour ago, State of Grace. said: literal mental illness on display Someone with a post count of almost 49K should really not be calling out anyone for 47 posts. 1 18
1989 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 These are great numbers, and tbh I think that had it not been for YA? being the lead, the numbers would be even higher. 1
wastedpotential Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) 3 hours ago, BrandNewBrandon said: Yes and it's not really something you should be talking about as a Taylor stan considering Ari's 70 million first day streams for Thank U, Next was at a time when there were 200+ million users whereas Taylor is "conquering" these records when there's 500+ million users Do the math. Taylor stans RUNNING into this thread to drag not thinking about the backfire Then why have Ariana's debuts continuously declined in absolute numbers (let alone relative numbers) if the number of Spotify users has doubled, and surely that must have a positive impact? 70M streams on a platform with 200M users means that the stream:user ratio is .35:1. Why didn't that carry forward to today when, according to that logic, ES should've debuted with 175M? Edited March 10 by wastedpotential 1
Gerardo Posted March 10 Posted March 10 3 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: Then why have Ariana's debuts continuously declined in absolute numbers (let alone relative numbers) if the number of Spotify users has doubled, and surely that must have a positive impact? 70M streams on a platform 200M users means that the stream:user ratio is .35:1. Why didn't that carry forward to today when, according to that logic, ES should've debuted with 175M? If you guys are so sure about your point/stand why are you desperately trying to win this argument? the user youre arguing with won’t agree with you on the next post, move on so sad this is how you people want to spend your Saturday night
wastedpotential Posted March 10 Posted March 10 16 minutes ago, bluebirdsforever said: Oh I understand it my good sister, I just marvel at how some of you act brand new by behaving as if the sky is falling and calling the UN on speed dial when your fav is being dragged for their numbers and yet still get your kiis in when it is someone else's turn (with not even the slightest semblance of self-awareness) I mean it's base human nature to enjoy a bit of retributive kii'ing at the expense of those who kii'ed at your expense in the past It'll always come around and bite everyone in the ass eventually, but it's hard to survive the down times as a stan without the fond memories of when times were good. How else could the massive community of Liddo's on this website have survived all these years without?
wastedpotential Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Gerardo said: If you guys are so sure about your point/stand why are you desperately trying to win this argument? the user youre arguing with won’t agree with you on the next post, move on so sad this is how you people want to spend your Saturday night Eh, that user has a long history of... incoherent logic that I like to poke holes in when I encounter it. It's not the most mature or productive use of my time, but I don't think anyone who spends any significant amount of time on this website has reached their peak maturity, and I always have a good time doing it Plus, considering some of your own post history, I don't feel like you're in any position to provide a credible critique on the frivolity and inherent sadness of worthless stan arguments 4
BrandNewBrandon Posted March 10 Posted March 10 17 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: Then why have Ariana's debuts continuously declined in absolute numbers (let alone relative numbers) if the number of Spotify users has doubled, and surely that must have a positive impact? 70M streams on a platform with 200M users means that the stream:user ratio is .35:1. Why didn't that carry forward to today when, according to that logic, ES should've debuted with 175M? Because she's not as popular anymore?
Prodigal Self Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, wastedpotential said: I mean it's base human nature to enjoy a bit of retributive kii'ing at the expense of those who kii'ed at your expense in the past It'll always come around and bite everyone in the ass eventually, but it's hard to survive the down times as a stan without the fond memories of when times were good. How else could the massive community of Liddo's on this website have survived all these years without? Shouldn't you outgrow that stuff by some point? Y'all cornball asses never beating y'all being twelve years old allegations. 1 1
Trainwreck Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Awful numbers, I expect it to be out to the Top 10 by the end of the month
fememeist Posted March 10 Posted March 10 17 pages of arguing, meltdowns and personal jabs here and there over an amazing album with good streaming numbers in 2024… 2
Born to Run Posted March 10 Posted March 10 These are some OVER numbers when God Malone (allegedly Fad of '19) is opening the Taylord album, @Katamari won. 1
State of Grace. Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) 4 hours ago, Extremely Stable said: Someone with a post count of almost 49K should really not be calling out anyone for 47 posts. I'm sure you thought this was a gag Ms. Extremely Stable, but the 47 posts in question from our fellow Swiftie are in one thread, within hours, about Ariana and her streams. I have my share of mentall illness like yall but none of my 49k posts on this site were serving....that Edited March 10 by State of Grace. 5 1
Sabrina Carpenter Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Ariana fans love to compare her to Taylor, but when Swifties do it, they get mad?… 3 1
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