base talk Is Ariana still the biggest ex act pop girl?

[Jjang]

daily streams 

 

Miley - 10m (10.5m with HM) 

Ariana - 20m 

 

Jeez I wonder who’s bigger

Edited March 2 by Jjang

[wantedyoutogrow]

nobody outside of gays stuck in the 2013 care about Miley Cyrus. She had been consistently flopping for ten (10!) years, got 1 smash and returned to her regularly scheduled flopping.

 

Like at some point y’all gotta real with yourselves and stop living in your own little made-up world

[ariananext]

ATRLers live in a bubble  like if Miley's so big why isn't she getting top 10 hits left and right and can't even score a #1 album. One big hit doesn't make you big or bigger than others.

[WeWon]

Yes, and flopped really hard.

Its 2024. Let’s get current.

 

[Zaynsus]

3 hours ago, Delirious said:

Ariana hasn't scored a solo hit for half a decade.

I love how Smilers always pretend that the Positions era never happened 

 

 

Miley's most streamed albums

• Plastic Hearts : 3,286,513,931
• Bangerz : 2,677,255,528
• The Flowers album : 2,587,544,262 (70% of its total numbers are from Flowers, lmao)

[Tm4074]

5 minutes ago, WeWon said:

Yes, and flopped really hard.

Its 2024. Let’s get current.

 

 

25 minutes ago, Jjang said:

daily streams 

 

Miley - 10m (10.5m with HM) 

Ariana - 20m 

 

Jeez I wonder who’s bigger

[Zaynsus]

6 minutes ago, WeWon said:

Yes, and flopped really hard.

Its 2024. Let’s get current.

 

Can't wait to see Doctor's debut numbers on Spotify, I'm sure it will debut at #1 with bigger numbers than yes, and?

 

[Jjang]

I hate that we’re having these stupid comparison to begin with cause both of these ladies are superbly talented (not everybody has that) and doing their own thing. 

Edited March 2 by Jjang

[WeWon]

2 minutes ago, Zaynsus said:

Can't wait to see Doctor's debut numbers on Spotify, I'm sure it will debut at #1 with bigger numbers than yes, and?

 

Yes and is the first single off a studio album. Doctor is ft. Pharrell Williams and is a single off Pharrell’s album after 4 other singles Miley herself released. Not comparable.

 

[Prodigal Self]

16 minutes ago, WeWon said:

Yes, and flopped really hard.

Its 2024. Let’s get current.

 

Let's! Hasn't Miley released like 4 singles after Flowers and all of them bombed to the pits of HELL?

[Zaynsus]

2 minutes ago, WeWon said:

Yes and is the first single off a studio album. Doctor is ft. Pharrell Williams and is a single off Pharrell’s album after 4 other singles Miley herself released. Not comparable.

 

The excuses already, I thought we should get current and accept that Miley is the biggest ex-act now.

 

[WeWon]

3 minutes ago, Prodigal Self said:

Let's! Hasn't Miley released like 4 singles after Flowers and all of them bombed to the pits of HELL?

3 singles and Used to Be Young smashed on radio as it was meant to

 

Nothing was going to be bigger than omega smash Flowers. Especially not Yes And, first single off Eternal Sunshine(an obvious Endless Summer Vacation reference) released by Ariana Grande.

 

 

 

Edited March 2 by WeWon

[BANKS]

6 hours ago, Taeyong said:

It's between her and Miley. No one is checking for the other two musically 

i was thinking the same… especially when it comes to Demi. (sorry Lovatics)

[Gerardo]

3 hours ago, wish said:

Also Ariana has more streaming hits but I think Flowers and PITUSA will outlast Ariana's entire solo catalogue (as evidenced by their recurrent streams) 

Santa Tell Me will outlast both of these songs 

[Zaynsus]

28 minutes ago, WeWon said:

Nothing was going to be bigger than omega smash Flowers.

Sure, but no one expected them to flop this hard either.

 

She literally went from being #1 everywhere with the lead... to not even seeing the Top 10 in any country with the two following singles.

 

Then they re-released the album with a brand new song... that only went Top 10 in like 3 countries for only one week.

 

[Felipesf]

Spotify daily artists 

 

22. Ariana 

 

47. Miley Cyrus (despite releasing a single yesterday) 

 

[Delirious]

Not at y'all putting Ariana's streaming stats like as if she didn't benefit from endless payola & Scooter.

 

Notice how the moment Scooter isn't involved, Ariana flops into oblivion? PS. The fact that yes and still bombed even with the 4 week TTH residency at #1 

[Blackout2006]

I'd say yes, but I can definitely see an argument being made for Miley Cyrus. She's been having hits since the mid-2000s and it's going to take us 5 to 10 more years to see if Ari's hits are as everlasting as Party in the USA, or Wrecking Ball, maybe even Flowers. Also, this narrative of Flowers being Miley's first hit since 2013 is sort of ridiculous. I remember Malibu and Midnight Sky being decent-sized hits for their times. 

Anyway, it's honestly between them. Otherwise, the margin between them and Demi/Selena is amusing.

[Blackout2006]

2 hours ago, XDNA said:

Britney had the biggest peak but she will be outlasted now that she's retired. She's more infamous now. 

Okay Jlo avi

[Delirious]

And like think about it. Why was "yes and" still #1 on TTH when it was #86 on Spotify US? Even radio payola couldn't save it.

 

This was after her reputation got destroyed btw. Imagine how much payola she was getting between 2014-2020 

Edited March 2 by Delirious

[Nashe]

Make them drop a single on the same day and you know damn well who'll win. Case closed

[Zaynsus]

2 minutes ago, Delirious said:

as if she didn't benefit from endless payola & Scooter.

 

Notice how the moment Scooter isn't involved

Sure, because we all saw how massive Demi Lovato (since 2018), Tori Kelly and Carly Rae Jepsen got since Scooter started working for them.

 

Also, if there's one thing we learned from Camila or to a lesser extent Dua, it's that no amount of payola can get you a hit if people aren't here for you and don't like your output.

 

 

16 minutes ago, Delirious said:

Imagine how much payola she was getting between 2014-2020 

She's currently the 6th most streamed artist ever on Spotify and has amassed a total of 41 billion streams on the platform, lmao. You know what ? If it helps you sleep at night and feel better about your flop faves to attribute such a massive success to payola, you do you !

 

But that makes me wonder, what about the other artists in the Top 10 ? Taylor, Drake, Justin, Bad Bunny, Abel, Ed, Post Malone, BTS ? Do you also think their success is due to payola or is it just Ariana because you hate her and can't comprehend why she managed to find success ?

 

[Jjang]

30 minutes ago, Delirious said:

And like think about it. Why was "yes and" still #1 on TTH when it was #86 on Spotify US? Even radio payola couldn't save it.

 

This was after her reputation got destroyed btw. Imagine how much payola she was getting between 2014-2020 

is the rest of Ariana's discography that is doubling Miley's discography streams (incl. Flowers and Hannah Montana!) #1 on TTH too right now? 

Edited March 2 by Jjang

[Dante Silva]

Miley feels bigger.

[wantedyoutogrow]

Y’all were saying?