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for her to have a backlash era, she'd have to do something actually monumentally terrible; like murder or something. too many people love her too much for real backlash to stain her career and legacy from future accomplishments

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Your feelings =/= Facts

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No but quality control on her next few albums is very important. 

 

Kind of perfect time to take risks, actually.

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No one this big will be cancelled, especially someone with the fanbase of her size. 

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The constant wishful thinking on this website will never not be funny 

 

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As an OTH, it’s never happening. Let’s take the L and move on. Her stans aren’t worth the time and effort anyway :zzz: 

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it is inevitable :sorry:

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According to Elon musk

 

 

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I’m sure she will successfully manufacture one in her fans eyes as she’s done in the past, but no, it’s not.

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Most of her recent backlashes are non-issues and things that are blown out of proportion just because people are pressed at her popularity and want her to fall so badly. I look at pages upon pages of people demonising her for "ignoring an artist" or "releasing variants" and I am baffled. Grass needs to be touched.

 

The only thing she deserves backlash for is her jet use, but when I see that she is not in the Top 20 and those other celebrities are not receiving backlash, I understand that it's just faux-outrage and another excuse to attack her. At this point she will have to do something really unimaginable for normal people to turn on her.

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I judge any pop-star on the strength of their tunes (regardless of whether they are a superstar or a regional pop act) and for me, I enjoyed the original “Red” and “1989” albums as consistent bodies of work and good pop albums but everything since has either been patchy in the extreme or in a direction I never wanted her to go.

 

I genuinely don’t find her a very interesting person and she does represent a very mainstream strata of culture and society that is very capitalist and I find that to be accepting of what she has become is to also be accepting of the level of capitalism she represents and I simply can’t relate to that, don’t want to support that and can’t relate to it either.

 

Her rise is undoubtedly powered by the way her team have so efficiently extrapolated her metrical data and made the best use they can with it across several different demographics via various different platforms. To those of us who never had anything against her but who simply never found her that interesting in the first place her publicity machine has gone beyond saturation point and her media presence has reached a level of overkill that simply makes me want to ignore her.

 

Typically when an artist reaches her level of sales, notoriety and accomplishment they sometimes want to give something back to other up and coming artists, whether that be through the formation of a sub-label to which an artist of Taylor’s stature signs talent to and supports in the development of those artists.  In Taylor’s case she has shown no interest in wanting to go down that path and to me this speaks of self obsession and narcissism.

 

I do believe there are swathes of unidentified people in her fanbase who are and always have supported her who (as they mature) are going to one day decide enough is enough, start to view her objectively, get sick of her and one day look back and cringe at the memory of having ever been THAT in to her in the first place.

 

Having lived through the rise of multiple artists and performers and seen them ascend to stratospheric heights of fame, acclaim and international superstardom, I can honestly say Taylor is the most mediocre of them all. She has always struck me as a very ordinary, down to earth and mainstream person. Perhaps that is central to her appeal however in an artist I want something off the wall, zany and unique and Taylor simply does not offer me that.

 

What does it say about our society and culture that people want to so slavishly go on feeding the beast that she has become and the blind capitalism that she represents? I’m not exactly sure but I know it’s not healthy and I personally find the music scene a whole lot more interesting for the most part by simply glossing over her entirely.

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Well, I'm convinced. It's the beginning of the beginning of the prelude to the end for Ms Swift I'm afraid. 

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So, here's the thing.

 

Taylor Swift ALREADY had a backlash era that lasted from 2016-2019. That's basically what the theme of Reputation and "Look What You Made Me Do" was all about. And the fact that Rep and Lover were seen as a fall from grace from 1989 played right into the hands of the haters who claimed that she was not only a "snake" but also an artist in decline. 

 

Now, could a 2016-2019 level backlash occur again? Perhaps. The media is basically obsessed with Taylor and, to a lesser extent, Beyonce partly due to the relative lack of star power among the newer MPG's. And that amount of attention can spark some sort of backlash from online trolls, Stan Twitter, certain types of people in the general public, and people who never liked her to begin with but feel like her "overexposure" gives credibility to their criticism. 

 

However, I don't think it'll happen....at least not on the scale of the past because Taylor's controversies simply aren't bad enough to warrant major backlash. Sure, the girl uses a lot of private jets but that's basically every other major celebrity or superstar. She may be relatively overexposed in the media but monoculture isn't as big anymore. She may be releasing tons of music but she's acclaimed now unlike the late 2010's. 

 

At most, the haters will be like Beyonce haters when Lemonade dropped. They'll be vocal as hell online and spamming hate comments in certain parts of social media but it'll never stop Taylor from dominating Billboard or selling out concerts worldwide. Her success will be too immense and will drown out the online haters trying to portray her as the Devil or the worst artist who ever existed. 

 

So, Taylor really doesn't have much to worry about imho. I think Taylor being proven right after the Snake backlash also made people look at her differently too. She's just not that bad of a person plain and simple esp. compared to many other people in the  music industry. If anything, the main backlash Taylor might have to fear is a MAGA/Republican one if she tells her fans to vote against Trump. 

 

 

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yes, her artpop is coming

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the only real criticism people can have abt taylor is her jet use but by extension that leaves beyonce and jay z, another even bigger offender yet equally lauded in online spaces, as another open target ('if yall criticize taylor what about bey?!' type of clapbacks)

 

theres literally nothing to go after taylor that'll cause gneuine decline/backlash bc everything she does wrong, other stars are worse or even bigger offenders than her at it which means its not a her problem, ppl just dont like her popularity.

 

 

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let’s be real, she’s reached the point where she’s too big to fail. she’s uncancellable. even if she loses gp support she still has her massive fanbase that would send a 1-minute long track of silence to #1 if she released it. everyone declines at some point but I can’t see it for taylor anytime soon unless she takes a long hiatus after the eras tour

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yea the backlash will happen if she speaks up against Trump and urges her fanbase to vote for Biden.  You would definitely see it then.  Otherwise, probably not.  She's not too big of a risk taker, and she steadily glides down the middle lane of mainstream.  Nothing too polarizing, nothing too risky.  Just the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" strategy.   I don't think she could pull off a complete 180 like Beyonce is doing.  Like going full-on dance album or something. 

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The flight attendants on the plane over to Sydney were swapping friendship bracelets with passengers, right before playing shake it off through the inflight announcement, where I turn to Spotify to listen to my own music only to see our charts are 50% Taylor. I then arrive in a city where every store and outlet is playing her on a loop, whilst catching free public transport dedicated to Taylors visit. When I return to my hotel and turn on the TV, every station is broadcasting live updates, as they have been for weeks, nationwide, leading up to this. Having a Taylor ticket here is almost like a status symbol at this point and it is completely ABSURD. All of this tells me otherwise.

Taylor could decline by 90% and she'd still be huge.

Can't wait for my show Sunday :duca:

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58 minutes ago, Kavish said:

Most of her recent backlashes are non-issues and things that are blown out of proportion just because people are pressed at her popularity and want her to fall so badly. I look at pages upon pages of people demonising her for "ignoring an artist" or "releasing variants" and I am baffled. Grass needs to be touched.

 

The only thing she deserves backlash for is her jet use, but when I see that she is not in the Top 20 and those other celebrities are not receiving backlash, I understand that it's just faux-outrage and another excuse to attack her. At this point she will have to do something really unimaginable for normal people to turn on her.

I love when people have common sense. Something so rare these days, and I'm not even joking. 

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Making deluxe versions literally for separate bonus tracks is an absolute cash cow of an idea, but her label knows people will gobble it up every time and earn them the dollars. The only real way it’ll stop is if people literally stop buying the crap. 

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She can only be “cancelled” if she pulls a Rowling/West on herself, but even they are simply disliked in the court of popular opinion while lining up deals with major companies (ie: new Harry Potter series) and finding quiet support from their audience (ie: Kanye still a top daily streaming artist despite “being over”).

 

59 minutes ago, Dante Silva said:

I do believe there are swathes of unidentified people in her fanbase who are and always have supported her who (as they mature) are going to one day decide enough is enough

As someone who’s been here since the debut single who knows many fans who have been around that long, I really disagree with this. As long as she continues serving a standard of music that fans find appealing, nobody who’s already spent two decades loving her music is going to drop her. And frankly, she could make a couple genuinely bad albums (as opposed to her current “bad” albums, which are merely “mixed reception” bad and not bad bad) and she’d still retain nearly her whole fanbase off the strength of her catalog. 

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Yes when she comes out of the closet

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No, but even if it did it would just fuel her narrative building even more unfortunately. Her musk era

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