vuelve88 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Shakira has always claimed to be a perfectionist. And lipsyncing so that her voice is presented exactly as she wants it is part of her idea of "perfection". It's weird, but it's just the way her brain works. But she definitely is investing a lot of time and energy into dancing and choreography this time. She also seems to be having fun! 3
shark_heather Posted March 27 Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, vuelve88 said: Shakira has always claimed to be a perfectionist. And lipsyncing so that her voice is presented exactly as she wants it is part of her idea of "perfection". It's weird, but it's just the way her brain works. Bull **** Either she is afraid to damage her voice or she is lazy And im fine with both , just try not to make it so obvious at least 3 1
GeeDuval Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 minute ago, Lorelei said: Nobody would issue a complaint about the lipsyncing if it was done periodically and under specific circumstances but this lady hasn't turned her mic on since 2018 and as of lately she even lipsyncs the entirety of her set including her most basic, zero vocally demanding ballads and no heavy choreo singles. Lmao since 2018 is a reach. El dorado was like 60-70 % live and her performance last night had some live parts. punteria was on towards the end, 53 for like the first minute and donde como y cuando I just think it would look better if she didn't make it so obvious lol you can tell her energy shifts once she connects with the crowd and starts jumping around and you can tell is prerecorded. 1
GeeDuval Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, shark_heather said: Bull **** Either she is afraid to damage her voice or she is lazy And im fine with both , just try not to make it so obvious at least Lmao same woman that showed up in sweats and a tank top and toured the world with an unplugged type of production during oral fixation tour. she'll be fine guys, the demand is there, thats all that matters. I was seriously expecting a crowd of like 100 ngl
Julia Fox Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Cohete was grow on me a lot and now I'm obsessed Nassau is also growing, it's very chill and summery it's like an elevated and catchier version of Islands/Coconut Tree and I'm here for her to keep filling that void on every of her albums tbh. My favorites are definitely Puntería, Como Cuando y Donde, Tiempo Sin Verte, Cohete, 53, TQG and El Jefe im glad this album is having legs and its stable and even growing through the week. Promo is working it seems and happy for her since she clearly is back at enjoying being a superstar and perform and work. This is truly a gift for her die hard fans
Red Hot Moon Posted March 27 Posted March 27 6 minutes ago, GeeDuval said: Lmao same woman that showed up in sweats and a tank top and toured the world with an unplugged type of production during oral fixation tour. she'll be fine guys, the demand is there, thats all that matters. I was seriously expecting a crowd of like 100 ngl Yeah, it's crazy that 40k showed up on short notice in the middle of the week. It's like LS era, when she attracted crowds of people whenever she had a show or tv-appearance. 3
aaron511 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) What is this stupid take of "everybody is lipping"? Britney? Yeah, she does. But look at Shakira's other peers. Beyoncé, P!nk, Christina, Timberlake, Usher. They all sing live almost every single time (Usher even decided to sing live at the Super Bowl and that's something very few artists have ever done). They all use backtrack and/or backing vocals when they dance but they're fairly quiet and their mics are on. They do somethimes lip as well but usually it's a once in a while special occasion type of thing. Shakira on the other hand hasn't sung live since like 2017 It doesn't help that she's bad at lipping too Edited March 27 by aaron511 2
aaron511 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 39 minutes ago, vuelve88 said: Shakira has always claimed to be a perfectionist. And lipsyncing so that her voice is presented exactly as she wants it is part of her idea of "perfection". It's weird, but it's just the way her brain works. But she definitely is investing a lot of time and energy into dancing and choreography this time. She also seems to be having fun! Feel like everybody would be fine with a few flat notes here and there (Punteria is not demanding to sing at all) but the low-effort lipping just makes her look silly. 1
commander Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Last night's performance, as good it might have been, was at least 95% lipping. If she doesn't feel confident in her voice anymore so be it, but let's not be delusional for the sake of being delusional. And the tour, if there is one at all, is headed in that same direction. 1
GeeDuval Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 12 minutes ago, aaron511 said: What is this stupid take of "everybody is lipping"? Britney? Yeah, she does. But look at Shakira's other peers. Beyoncé, P!nk, Christina, Timberlake, Usher. They all sing live almost every single time (Usher even decided to sing live at the Super Bowl and that's something very few artists have ever done). They all use backtrack and/or backing vocals when they dance but they're fairly quiet and their mics are on. They do somethimes lip as well but usually it's a once in a while special occasion type of thing. Shakira on the other hand hasn't sung live since like 2017 It doesn't help that she's bad at lipping too Just because they do it better doesn't mean their mic is on. Usher and JT def do not sing live anymore and also use pre recorded tracks. p!nk and beyonde are the only ones that sing mostly live still that's it. Let it go people Shakira is not the first nor will be the last. Edited March 27 by GeeDuval 1 1
aaron511 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 minute ago, GeeDuval said: Just because they do it better doesn't mean their mic is. Usher and JT def do not sing live anymore and also use pre recorded tracks. I'm sorry but no. They sing live vast majority of time Look, I love Shakira and I think the album turned out very good but I can't help but cringe when I watch her performances and it's offputting for many people online too 1 1 1
Yellowfever Posted March 27 Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, aaron511 said: I'm sorry but no. They sing live vast majority of time Look, I love Shakira and I think the album turned out very good but I can't help but cringe when I watch her performances and it's offputting for many people online too i agree, i refuse to get used to the shameless lip syncing she's been doing since 2019. 1
GeeDuval Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Anywayyyyyyyy, what's next y'all? Will she be in NYC all week? i haven't heard anything about SNL, Kelly Clarkson or Drew's show
LatinFreak Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, shark_heather said: And im fine with both , just try not to make it so obvious at least Yeah the problem isn't lipsynching so much.. Its the fact that she's so obviously BAD at it. Also she should record "live" versions of the backtrack so they don't sounds exactly like in the album and so she's not looking dumb playbacking to some parts that have obvious vocal effects. 3 1
AvadaKedavra Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) I honestly think Shaki is afraid of damagin her voice again. She got depressed back in 2017 when she got that vocal injury. She's also probably rehearsing for the tour and not overdoin things. As long as we have Live Vocals on Tour i honestly dont mind im just grateful shes still giving us music and not retired. Beyonce,Pink and the others. They have great technique. They didnt have surgery warnings like Shak. Shaki really needs a vocal trainer but the people from her team dont advise her or something........ Beyonce cant even dance anymore after her injury too and u can see that in her tour. Sometimes *** happens and we have to adapt. At least we have dancing shakira still --------------------------------------------------- Ok now Revisiting the album again Nassau is my favorite Track from the record. Is just so relaxing,sexy and lush. Love it. Shaki loves her staple caribbean songs : Un Poco de Amor/Good Stuff/Cut Me Deep/Coconut Tree..... I love the spacey funky production of Cohete but Raw Alejandro vocals. I just dont vibe with his vocal tone. Im makin my own version without him. Did the same with te felicito I think the song is a bit overly sweet but it has mainstream potential. Como Donde y Cuando makes you realize how is Shakira life. Sometimes she feels real unhappy but she goes to the beach to forget about her problems. i think Shaki is more moody and melancholic than we think. Tiempo sin Verte. Is about her dad or gerard? All these gerard lyrics. Shakira was missin gerard so much after the breakup. Poor woman. Looks like he was not invested in staying in the relationship. He just got bored and dipped and had excuses blaming Shaki. Someone here has noticed how her new songs after The breakup are really fun? I love that. It that stage of discovering a new love and everything feels exciting. Punteria is so cutesy and it was expected. The producer of dynamite made it. Desilusionals were the ones expecting a strong urban pop track Producers guide a lot the musical direction of a song. This is the reason why im angry with the scrapped andrew watt song. That guy is a genius producing pop rock and electro-rock ------------------------------------------------- Now i wonder. If her new love is the formula one guy? she's hintin at that? but he lives in Europe? How that will work? I dont think the model lucian is her new boyfriend. If thats her new boyfriend she just *** won That guy is a 100000/10 what a a beautiful papi What about edelman he was so cute too? A nightmare scenario for me would be Shakira dating Rawr Alejandro or Ozuna. Looks like theyre good friends with her Edited March 27 by AvadaKedavra 1
alanmontes Posted March 27 Posted March 27 There's a rumor she's about to throw surprise concerts in Mexico City, Bogota and Rio
Green Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Over 10 million streams for the Punteria video so far I wonder if it will debut on the Hot 100
LatinFreak Posted March 27 Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, alanmontes said: There's a rumor she's about to throw surprise concerts in Mexico City, Bogota and Rio Yeah I saw that. It's because of the video spotify shared with a gemstone dropping in each of those locations. Hopefully it's true and I will be at the Mexico City one. However Rio doesn't make that much sense, Madrid would've been a better choice.
GeeDuval Posted March 27 Posted March 27 38 minutes ago, alanmontes said: There's a rumor she's about to throw surprise concerts in Mexico City, Bogota and Rio Smart promo tour. reminds me of Rihanna's 777 promo tour but knowing Shakira she will probably extend promo to summer and then start tour preparations fall into summer 2025
Johnny Cash Posted March 27 Posted March 27 4 hours ago, GeeDuval said: Just because they do it better doesn't mean their mic is on. Usher and JT def do not sing live anymore and also use pre recorded tracks. p!nk and beyonde are the only ones that sing mostly live still that's it. Let it go people Shakira is not the first nor will be the last. The nerve... he has performed several times this year and he always sings live even when he was sick. Both User and JT did Tiny Desk recently and they still sound great live. Meanwhile Shakira hasn't performed live this entire decade. If she's going that route she should at least learn to do it well like JLo, but she looks like a highschooler. The fact that she even lip synced the Acrostico performance at the Grammys is actually concerning, did she lose her voice or something? 1
GeeDuval Posted March 27 Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, Johnny Cash said: The nerve... he has performed several times this year and he always sings live even when he was sick. Both User and JT did Tiny Desk recently and they still sound great live. Meanwhile Shakira hasn't performed live this entire decade. If she's going that route she should at least learn to do it well like JLo, but she looks like a highschooler. The fact that she even lip synced the Acrostico performance at the Grammys is actually concerning, did she lose her voice or something? Nope she didn't, but is ATRL so anything she does people crucify her for it. the nerve ? are we watching the same performances by her peers ? Cause I've seen usher and JT singing over pre recorded tracks this decade, they just do it better that's all. She hasn't lost her voice and has proved she can still sing live ballads and rock songs except acróstico don't know what that mess was about, but I guess is scared to damage her vocal chords again , but yes somebody needs to coach her on signing over pre recorded tracks so it doesn't look obvious like JT Usher and J Lo and half the industry. 1
NoAngelus Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Listening now for the 2nd time and mam, this is not an album this is basically another Now That's What I Call Music by her (after El Dorado). Such a shame, I am huge fan of her first few albums, just like everyone else, and I cannot help but think that she doesn't deserve success she has when this is the output. 1 1
Chromatica Posted March 27 Posted March 27 4 hours ago, AvadaKedavra said: I honestly think Shaki is afraid of damagin her voice again. She got depressed back in 2017 when she got that vocal injury. She's also probably rehearsing for the tour and not overdoin things. As long as we have Live Vocals on Tour i honestly dont mind im just grateful shes still giving us music and not retired. Beyonce,Pink and the others. They have great technique. They didnt have surgery warnings like Shak. Shaki really needs a vocal trainer but the people from her team dont advise her or something........ Beyonce cant even dance anymore after her injury too and u can see that in her tour. Sometimes *** happens and we have to adapt. At least we have dancing shakira still --------------------------------------------------- Ok now Revisiting the album again Nassau is my favorite Track from the record. Is just so relaxing,sexy and lush. Love it. Shaki loves her staple caribbean songs : Un Poco de Amor/Good Stuff/Cut Me Deep/Coconut Tree..... I love the spacey funky production of Cohete but Raw Alejandro vocals. I just dont vibe with his vocal tone. Im makin my own version without him. Did the same with te felicito I think the song is a bit overly sweet but it has mainstream potential. Como Donde y Cuando makes you realize how is Shakira life. Sometimes she feels real unhappy but she goes to the beach to forget about her problems. i think Shaki is more moody and melancholic than we think. Tiempo sin Verte. Is about her dad or gerard? All these gerard lyrics. Shakira was missin gerard so much after the breakup. Poor woman. Looks like he was not invested in staying in the relationship. He just got bored and dipped and had excuses blaming Shaki. Someone here has noticed how her new songs after The breakup are really fun? I love that. It that stage of discovering a new love and everything feels exciting. Punteria is so cutesy and it was expected. The producer of dynamite made it. Desilusionals were the ones expecting a strong urban pop track Producers guide a lot the musical direction of a song. This is the reason why im angry with the scrapped andrew watt song. That guy is a genius producing pop rock and electro-rock ------------------------------------------------- Now i wonder. If her new love is the formula one guy? she's hintin at that? but he lives in Europe? How that will work? I dont think the model lucian is her new boyfriend. If thats her new boyfriend she just *** won That guy is a 100000/10 what a a beautiful papi What about edelman he was so cute too? A nightmare scenario for me would be Shakira dating Rawr Alejandro or Ozuna. Looks like theyre good friends with her Tiempo Sin Verte is so obviously about Lewis Hamilton lol And who knows the Andrew Watt song and the K-Pop track might make it on a new English album? Similar to how she scrapped Devocion from She Wolf and it ended up on SES.
Giancor Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I wouldn't get my hopes up for a new album lol. I won't feed that narrative with no evidence 1
Pinksus Posted March 27 Posted March 27 The herd behavior here is so strong that people are bragging about "not turning the mic on since 2018!!!!" when yesterday she did a song live She's not in her 20s anymore and has to deal with the damage of the vocal cord issue. Her team sucks but I'm glad they protect her from comments like these, sometimes looks like y'all would rather she retire than doing this comeback I miss too the most-live concerts but she did a lot of effort yesterday and yet some of you just whine about it. 4
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