Dolce Vita Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) well according to ayesha, republic only got cold feet on signing her bc she declined to be involved with **** pop (and by default, dr luke) so i can see why she would be mad, especially if you helped popularise that specific y2k coke ***** aesthetic…with that said, the morally corrupt kim petras and her support of a rapist is gross but ayesha’s own history is pretty terrible too so they both look bad here the personal drama that her and slayyyter have is clearly the main issue here. i’m glad she supports kesha though Edited February 12 by Dolce Vita 3 2
Archetype Posted February 12 Posted February 12 41 minutes ago, Windy Day said: the way ayesha’s UNOFFICIAL fake spotify page had over 2 million monthly listeners before it was taken down kim’s OFFICIAL page had 3 million before unholy but some ppl on here are trying to convince us kim is bigger than her when she’s getting hard carried by sam smith the unofficial release of vacation bible school has 53M streams on spotify right now while XXX has 29M LMFAOOO @OmegaRidley not kim getting outstreamed by a random illegally uploading ayesha’s music From what her own stans have mentioned in this thread, she should be putting her energy into getting her music officially uploaded to streaming services so she can pay her rent and possibly check into rehab instead of worrying about when other transpeople transition. Kim is giving us several officially released albums, quality MVs, and several tours. She is minding her own business and focusing on growing her career. We don't care about this lady and her one-sided beef with someone who has only ever complimented her. 3
brooklyndaddy Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Desire said: Didn't know who this Ayesha girl is but the racism did it for me and she's basically talking into the air since Kim won't/ has no reason to respond. She was 14 years old, a Mexican raised in the hood of LA, on the streets, in and out of care homes because her parents lost custody. She casually tossed around the word as a teen, yes. It has debunked hundreds of times - she’s not a racist. She’s apologized for being dumb and ignorant. This only ever gets brought up when people want to make a dig at her. She’s 28 now… people change. also, much of the times she said that word were on writers demos for black artist Miss Prada. Prada would sing over Ayesha’s demos and gave Ayesha permission to use the word… these were never meant to be heard publicly - only Prada’s released version. But they leaked. 1 1 1
brooklyndaddy Posted February 12 Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, Archetype said: From what her own stans have mentioned in this thread, she should be putting her energy into getting her music officially uploaded to streaming services so she can pay her rent and possibly check into rehab instead of worrying about when other transpeople transition. Kim is giving us several officially released albums, quality MVs, and several tours. She is minding her own business and focusing on growing her career. We don't care about this lady and her one-sided beef with someone who has only ever complimented her. I don’t completely disagree BUT I understand her being upset that she’s losing a potential deal because she rejected to collab with someone is explicitly ripping her sound off to make money. She’s been a champion of the underground for YEARS and I get the frustration of feeling cornered in by major label corporates. also, Kim and Slayyyter have beef - Slayyyter and AE are very close. This isn’t out of nowhere.
brooklyndaddy Posted February 12 Posted February 12 18 minutes ago, Dolce Vita said: well according to ayesha, republic only got cold feet on signing her bc she declined to be involved with **** pop (and by default, dr luke) so i can see why she would be mad, especially if you helped popularise that specific y2k coke ***** aesthetic…with that said, the morally corrupt kim petras and her support of a rapist is gross but ayesha’s own history is pretty terrible too so they both look bad here the personal drama that her and slayyyter have is clearly the main issue here. i’m glad she supports kesha though Neither have perfect pasts, Ayesha did some dumb stuff as a 15 year old though and Kim is a full grown adult willingly working with a r@pist… y’all can be the judge but I’d say one is worse 2
OmegaRidley Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, brooklyndaddy said: She was 14 years old, a Mexican raised in the hood of LA, on the streets, in and out of care homes because her parents lost custody. She casually tossed around the word as a teen, yes. It has debunked hundreds of times - she’s not a racist. She’s apologized for being dumb and ignorant. This only ever gets brought up when people want to make a dig at her. She’s 28 now… people change. also, much of the times she said that word were on writers demos for black artist Miss Prada. Prada would sing over Ayesha’s demos and gave Ayesha permission to use the word… these were never meant to be heard publicly - only Prada’s released version. But they leaked. And how can you defend the current transphobia and fat-shaming? I’m curious.
brooklyndaddy Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Just now, OmegaRidley said: And how can you defend the current transphobia and fat-shaming? I’m curious. Ayesha is trans and the fat stuff? I haven’t seen that but uhh Ayesha herself is plus sized in case you can’t tell lmao
brooklyndaddy Posted February 12 Posted February 12 4 hours ago, Communion said: Yes, which is why no one wins in a battle between Ayesha largely not taking accountability for her racist past and Kim not taking accountability for defending Kesha's rapist. That you as a Kim Petras fan oddly feel entitled to respond to Ayesha's passing and neutral comments about Kim's music with not just a false moral high ground but the worst of you being transphobic or mocking her mom for being a drug addict (how do some of you even know this about an obscure soundcloud artist) to Ayesha as mostly cis men shows most of yall baiting Ayesha on Twitter are as big of losers as Ayesha and Kim. Ayesha has apologized MULTIPLE times about dumb parody songs she made at 15 years old.. I can’t believe y’all still go on about this.
Dolce Vita Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 18 minutes ago, brooklyndaddy said: Neither have perfect pasts, Ayesha did some dumb stuff as a 15 year old though and Kim is a full grown adult willingly working with a r@pist… y’all can be the judge but I’d say one is worse one is definitely worse but i think ayesha’s points would’ve landed better without the personal attacks, she was clearly baited into this whole situation by annoying trolls that triggered her with the vile **** they are saying & now they’re just using the ugly things she said as an excuse to ignore the initial points she tried to make in the first place Edited February 12 by Dolce Vita 2
OmegaRidley Posted February 12 Posted February 12 16 minutes ago, brooklyndaddy said: Ayesha is trans and the fat stuff? I haven’t seen that but uhh Ayesha herself is plus sized in case you can’t tell lmao a trans woman can still be transphobic and a fat woman can still fatshame, she’s literally calling Kim chunky and talking about fat injections in her chin
brooklyndaddy Posted February 12 Posted February 12 15 minutes ago, Dolce Vita said: one is definitely worse but i think ayesha’s points would’ve landed better without the personal attacks, she was clearly baited into this whole situation by annoying trolls that triggered her with the vile **** they are saying & now they’re just using the ugly things she said as an excuse to ignore the initial points she tried to make in the first place Totally agree! Ayesha is a genuinely good person who needs to work on her self control for sure. I will say, the leaking of her n*des and pre t pics, deadnaming etc by Kim Petra’s stans on Twitter probably really triggered her too. This wasn’t unprovoked. At the end of the day, I highly doubt any of this has any implications past a couple brainless twinks “unstanning” either of these ladies 1
Archetype Posted February 12 Posted February 12 17 minutes ago, brooklyndaddy said: being upset that she’s losing a potential deal because she rejected to collab with someone is explicitly ripping her sound off to make money She can't figure out how to upload her music to streaming services and disappeared for how many years, and yet you think her deal fell through mostly because she rejected a collab offer? Kim makes money because she puts in the WORK to do so, she cares about her own career and is rewarded for doing so. If others are not able to do the same, that is not her problem. 29 minutes ago, brooklyndaddy said: She’s been a champion of the underground for YEARS and I get the frustration of feeling cornered in by major label corporates. But once again, that is not anyone else's problem. SHE decided to operate as an incredibly niche underground artist and purposely avoided opportunities that could have prevented her career from falling apart. Getting mad that another artist is succeeding where she financially failed is the definition of bitter. 31 minutes ago, brooklyndaddy said: also, Kim and Slayyyter have beef - Slayyyter and AE are very close. This isn’t out of nowhere. When was the last time Kim or Slayyyter had anything bad to say about each other, and why is this person inserting herself into drama that neither artist seem to care about anymore? And how exactly is she helping Slayyyter by using transphobic comments to drag Kim? 2
Phaunzie Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) To add to the Peaches mention, Lords of Acid reign supreme at the top of the Kingdom of ****. They deserve their dues and flowers. NSFW Spoiler Edited February 12 by Phaunzie 2
glitch Posted February 12 Posted February 12 5 hours ago, Terrielle said: serious question are slayyyter and ayesha both cis? Ayesha is trans. Slayyyter has never said either way (I don't think) 1
liquiddiamonds Posted February 12 Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, Phaunzie said: To add to the Peaches mention, Lords of Acid reign supreme at the top of the Kingdom of ****. They deserve their dues and flowers. We gonna need a thread on **** pop pioneers to teach some herstory to the youngsters 🙏🙏🙏🙏 1
PixelStick Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) Idk Ayesha is talented but her new stuff is kinda lame tbh and she ruined her career by going ghost or whatever, so it seems like bitter/jealous to me. What’s the provocation? On another note I listened to that new slayyter track No comma and I’m bopping Edited February 12 by PixelStick
ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 minute ago, PixelStick said: What’s the provocation? Went through her Twitter and I noticed this: Basically, Ayesha has been getting a lot of hate from trolls on Twitter lately (not sure if it was occurring before that or not). These are mostly anonymous accounts with random avis just set up to hate on her, which they do by sharing personal information about her and leaking her pictures. After ignoring them for a week, Ayesha finally snapped and then for a few days she was constantly quoting these trolls and fighting with them in her comments. After that, things seemed to have simmered down and Ayesha tweeted this (probably not in a negative way): At this point some Kim fans took offence but it wasn't anything transphobic or disrespectful. Things could've ended here, but Ayesha tweeted this: Kim fans started getting really heated then (although I still can't find any evidence of transphobia from them at that point, at least not in Ayesha's comments or quotes). Ayesha then talked about Kim doing the same things she had been doing earlier: And then Kim fans really started dragging her by bringing up her racist past (still no direct evidence of transphobia, though there might have been that sort of hate in the quotes, can't access them): After this Ayesha went on a full tirade against Kim: Ayesha then started becoming transphobic towards Kim and encouraged her fans to do the same, whilst also going against Kim fans personally and retweeting pictures of minors (though just a day earlier she was complaining about how it is weird to expose minors after her pictures were leaked): (She retweeted this 16 year old's face reveals to thousands of her followers just for calling her a coward; the original tweet was deleted so I can't post that). TL;DR: Ayesha was getting a lot of unrelated transphobic hate, she got rejected from Republic after choosing not to work with Kim after the latter had reached out to her believing that Kim ripped off her aesthetic, and then went on a tirade against Kim for supposedly copying her that turned transphobic after Kim's fans came for her racist past. Bonus: Ayesha coming for Sam Smith for no reason: 1
ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted February 12 Posted February 12 28 minutes ago, glitch said: Ayesha is trans. Slayyyter has never said either way (I don't think) Slayyyter is not trans according to Ayesha:
Bubble Tea Posted February 12 Posted February 12 7 hours ago, Rhyme said: Ayesha is trans herself? Are you suggesting that means she cannot be transphobic? Or that gays can't be homophobic? Or that black people can't be racist? Cause boy have I got news for you. ---- They are all jealous of Kim cause her career, despite ATRL's beliefs, is popping and she has built up a strong niche fan base. Hell she's on an international tour right now. It mightn't have Renaissance or Eras tours shaking in their boot but god damn, she's come a long way from the girl with 5 singles on Spotify without a pic of herself p.s. the fat shaming might have stung a year or so ago but Kim's ozempic has HIT and she's looking absolutely snatched lately, so the girls better fume 2
Rhyme Posted February 12 Posted February 12 14 minutes ago, Tropical said: Are you suggesting that means she cannot be transphobic? Or that gays can't be homophobic? Or that black people can't be racist? Cause boy have I got news for you. ---- They are all jealous of Kim cause her career, despite ATRL's beliefs, is popping and she has built up a strong niche fan base. Hell she's on an international tour right now. It mightn't have Renaissance or Eras tours shaking in their boot but god damn, she's come a long way from the girl with 5 singles on Spotify without a pic of herself p.s. the fat shaming might have stung a year or so ago but Kim's ozempic has HIT and she's looking absolutely snatched lately, so the girls better fume Self hate will never be the same as transphobia or homophobia.
brooklyndaddy Posted February 13 Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Tropical said: Are you suggesting that means she cannot be transphobic? Or that gays can't be homophobic? Or that black people can't be racist? Cause boy have I got news for you. ---- They are all jealous of Kim cause her career, despite ATRL's beliefs, is popping and she has built up a strong niche fan base. Hell she's on an international tour right now. It mightn't have Renaissance or Eras tours shaking in their boot but god damn, she's come a long way from the girl with 5 singles on Spotify without a pic of herself p.s. the fat shaming might have stung a year or so ago but Kim's ozempic has HIT and she's looking absolutely snatched lately, so the girls better fume This is the equivalent of a gay calling another gay the f slur. It’s really not the deep. Not everything is blankphobic just because it’s not nice. Touch grass. 3 1
camxcx Posted February 13 Posted February 13 11 minutes ago, brooklyndaddy said: This is the equivalent of a gay calling another gay the f slur. It’s really not the deep. Not everything is blankphobic just because it’s not nice. Touch grass. ayesha is comparing kim’s transition to grotesque mutilation. that’s literally the same transphobic rhetoric bigots use. let’s use our brains today 1 4
brooklyndaddy Posted February 13 Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, camxcx said: ayesha is comparing kim’s transition to grotesque mutilation. that’s literally the same transphobic rhetoric bigots use. let’s use our brains today Castration is… the objective term. And you know very well Ayesha is trans. In context, tweet made sense. 3
Bubble Tea Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Can I just say I had no idea Ayesha was trans until this thread. Good for ha I guess 1
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