BnPac Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 12 hours ago, Cbreezy said: Of course, the tracking might be off. But, at the moment, there's nothing to suggest that's the case. Again, working with the data available, 150k-200k or thereabout isn't that far-fetched. She's sold an estimated 47k vinyls so far. The CD boxes are said to be selling slowly too. But, for convo sake, let's say that's another 20k She did 120k streaming units first week with Rennie. Let's say her heightened streaming profile gives her 140k this time as a conservative estimate. That totals just over 200k. Not the worst, but an underperformance and an unnecessary one at. I'd gladly take it on the chin if it were a surprise release or if the market is bad or if she did all she could. But doing anything in the ballpark above will be annoying because it literally did not need to happen. She's had weeks and weeks to benefit from hype buys. You are meaning 200k/150K total? She would do more, that's for sure. At worst, she'll be a little above 300k imo. However I don't understand the anger towards @Lose My Breathand @Machete's posts. Both are just talking about factual sales. No shade and I mean it respectfully but some are triggered easily and should maybe stay in the base if charts and discussion/projection of sales in the music forums annoy them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingB® Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayseri Mantisi Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Thoughts? https://www.complex.com/music/a/backwoodsaltar/16-carriages-producer-breaks-down-renaissance-cowboy-carter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BnPac Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, KingB® said: Nice. T4P. I always thought the whole 3-act project was finished before she started Renaissance. It felt like Ren was the one she worked on last because samples and everything were being cleared at the last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 i hope the album doesn't sound dated when it drops ngl. Saying that the album is 6-5 years old wasn't really necessary either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnMyCoolJ Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 The hive getting greedy. Just let it play out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OnMyCoolJ Posted March 23 Popular Post Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: i hope the album doesn't sound dated when it drops ngl. Saying that the album is 6-5 years old wasn't really necessary either. Beyoncé doesn't make "what's trending now" music. So it sounding dated is the very least of my worries. better yet its time she opens up the archives and start giving us anniversary versions of her albums with the vault tracks. 15 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoundsandSongs Posted March 23 Popular Post Share Posted March 23 It was the right decision. Coming back with Country immediately would have been too jarring and the album would have probably flopped. Renaissance era helped build her streaming power and Country is bigger now than ever. 9 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TryMe Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I love these kind of inside news. I think we are going to be suprised. first it was a country album, then it's not a country album, now it's a timeless piece. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campelo Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I bet she recorded this album in a span of six months after the Daddy's Lesson episode 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROPICUM Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 so maybe her next album was going to be cowboy carter before 2020 but covid happened and decided to make a more "get up and dance" record and somewhere in there she said **** it and made another album, where she completed the trilogy idea/concepts so like CMAs incident happens -> 2018/19: COWBOY CARTER is (semi) finished -> 2020: RENAISSANCE is finished, Act III is finished 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lose My Breath Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, TryMe said: I love these kind of inside news. I think we are going to be suprised. first it was a country album, then it's not a country album, now it's a timeless piece. One journalist called it an "acoustic" record last year, well before any info was released 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicgenie Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Interesting, so whoever is featured recorded their part back then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayseri Mantisi Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 11 minutes ago, OnMyCoolJ said: Beyoncé doesn't make "what's trending now" music. So it sounding dated is the very least of my worries. better yet its time she opens up the archives and start giving us anniversary versions of her albums with the vault tracks. why a Lady Gaga stan is laughing at your post? especially when it's about not sounding dated? 3 3 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayzik Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 19 minutes ago, campelo said: I bet she recorded this album in a span of six months after the Daddy's Lesson episode Sis had to get something off her chest Edited March 23 by Crayzik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frappucino Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 The way this annoys me as a casual listener who really enjoyed Renaissance and went to see her live cause of it Whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, Frappucino said: The way this annoys me as a casual listener who really enjoyed Renaissance and went to see her live cause of it Whatever Why does it annoy you to know this album was completed first? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 so will there be a standard vinyl/cd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 33 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: i hope the album doesn't sound dated when it drops ngl. Saying that the album is 6-5 years old wasn't really necessary either. Although the album was 'done' 5-6 years ago it doesn't mean it hasn't changed since then. Without a shadow of a doubt Beyoncé would have been tweaking it over the years, re-recording vocals, adding and removing elements of songs. It just means that the core of the album has been ready for years. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frappucino Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 8 minutes ago, Lovett said: Why does it annoy you to know this album was completed first? Cause the decision is so left field to me as a casual listener, I mean it makes sense from a business perspective but the direction she's going is just not my cup of tea so I guess I'm officially jumping ship from this era for now 1 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 13 minutes ago, Burn said: Although the album was 'done' 5-6 years ago it doesn't mean it hasn't changed since then. Without a shadow of a doubt Beyoncé would have been tweaking it over the years, re-recording vocals, adding and removing elements of songs. It just means that the core of the album has been ready for years. No that's definitely true. But what I meant is that I hope that despite being a little bit old, that it doesn't sound too much of it's time. The musical landscape kinda changed compared to 2019. But knowing Bey, she will deliver a timeless piece just like always! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, Frappucino said: Cause the decision is so left field to me as a casual listener, I mean it makes sense from a business perspective but the direction she's going is just not my cup of tea so I guess I'm officially jumping ship from this era for now I'm sorry, I really don't understand what your point is. I don't understand how this information changes... anything? Let alone enough to make you no longer want to listen to an album you were previously engaged with. How does this change the "direction she's going"? Sorry, I'm trying to understand the point you're making but I can't wrap my head around it at all. 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristie Kuwa Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 minutes ago, Frappucino said: Cause the decision is so left field to me as a casual listener, I mean it makes sense from a business perspective but the direction she's going is just not my cup of tea so I guess I'm officially jumping ship from this era for now Christopher Nolan and James Cameron are known for taking their time with their projects and are always met with great respect and love for their projects. Why should it be any different for Bey? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frappucino Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 So as a casual listener I had to put up with y'all bitching and whining about lack of visuals and whatever stupid **** y'all cared about but now I as a casual listener cannot express the fact that I don't wanna hear no ******* banjos no matter who singing it. Stans are so…. Funny!!! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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