Ascareus Kratos Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Simply grammy voters think those albums are not worth it being aoty
Ger.vaz Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Midnights is better than those albums. end thread. 1 1 11
Zefierce Posted February 8 Posted February 8 16 minutes ago, Ger.vaz said: Midnights is better than those albums. end thread. I think the majority of people would agree it’s just a small minority on ATRL and twitter that are bothered. 1 2
TYMPS Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Grammys are safe af. They are not interested in innovation and they are definitely not into black artists telling their truth. I mean, this same institution passed on awarding AOTY to Purple Rain lmao Yes, hindsight is 20/20, but it’s tea: this corrupt and tired institution is NEVER going to represent the current culture or be even slightly forward-thinking. They exist for the sake of profit, not art. 2
devonedelrey Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) They gave it to her to break that record and get all of these people talking aka free promo for them, i rhink we as a collective should just ignore them into oblivion like the vmas, tcas etc Edited February 8 by devonedelrey
Blue. Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) On 2/5/2024 at 10:10 AM, Hurem said: Y’all gotta stop paying attention to Grammys, they’re getting more and more irrelevant each year It had the biggest raiting in 10 years Edited February 8 by Blue.
Brooklyn Baby Posted February 9 Posted February 9 The last two winners are Harry's House and Midnights. Very telling 1
BnPac Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) On 2/5/2024 at 7:01 PM, Archetype said: A main field Grammy is for music and artists that define the year, connect with the most people, have some large impact, etc. Taylor Swift always exceeds this criteria without really trying, it’s just who she is and ya’ll need to learn to cope. Beyoncé is amazing but no one forced her to make more experimental, niche albums that a majority of people do not connect with. Lana is in the same boat, amazing music but too niche for main field wins. SZA probably has the second highest amount of votes, but the album is more of a playlist than album, and it doesn’t have the same level of impact as Taylor. Most uber successful and talented artists never win a main field Grammy or only get to do it once. Then why did Beck win? Did he win the year and connect with most people? If impact is so important, if selling more is so important why didn't St win? And if SZA's album is considered a playlist, what exactly would an album as bland and insipid as Midnights be? The excuses and moving of goalposts for black artists is so funny. Number of writers matters the most, you all said but SZA lost. Connecting and selling a lot matter, you say, yet SZA spent 10 weeks at #1 on BB200, most for any black women since Whitney and her two hits Kill Bill and Snooze were huge and are bigger hits than anything on Midnights, yet it still lost. Edited February 9 by BnPac
superben Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) On 2/5/2024 at 8:10 PM, Hurem said: Y’all gotta stop paying attention to Grammys, they’re getting more and more irrelevant each year The continuing mention of Grammy is because those fans actually love the award They always boast about the number of Grammys their fave has. They're just pressed she does not have an AotY yet Edited February 9 by superben
Roberto Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Lemonade not having the AOTY Grammy is kinda wild, tbh.
Nippy'sReceipts Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Cruel summer outshadowed Midnights :that’s how forgettable the album was. Taylor won 4 times because she brings lots of ratings to the award shows with her animated and happy behavior
a_d_22 Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Midnights works better as an album than SOS. SOS falls into the same trap as Red where it‘s just too chaotic, and the Grammys like cohesive bodies of work. Lemonade and Renaissance were clearly the best by far both years though so that one’s crazy to me.
Letemtalk Posted February 18 Posted February 18 On 2/11/2024 at 3:48 PM, a_d_22 said: Midnights works better as an album than SOS. SOS falls into the same trap as Red where it‘s just too chaotic, and the Grammys like cohesive bodies of work. Lemonade and Renaissance were clearly the best by far both years though so that one’s crazy to me. While that would also be my main criticism of the SOS, that it was not as cohesive as CTRL, but where does that leave SZA and other black women in music? She can release a more R&B focused album, which might have smaller sales and less appeal to voters in different genres. - The result is likely to be R&B wins but no AOTY She can release a more pop focused album and increase her pop audience and her international audience. - But remember what happened to The Weeknd, where he submitted in pop, but pop voters preferred Justin Bieber. And no, we can’t simply blame the committee, there was no nominations review committee in the pop categories. The best chance of an AOTY win for most artists, is to make an album that has broad appeal across different genres - like Folklore that didn’t win in it’s genre, or like R.A.M. where they replaced a lot of electronic instruments and samples with live instrumentation. If SZA can’t win with an album as acclaimed and successful as SOS, and having such broad appeal as SOS, I’m not sure how any black woman can win in the next few years.
a_d_22 Posted February 19 Posted February 19 20 hours ago, Letemtalk said: While that would also be my main criticism of the SOS, that it was not as cohesive as CTRL, but where does that leave SZA and other black women in music? She can release a more R&B focused album, which might have smaller sales and less appeal to voters in different genres. - The result is likely to be R&B wins but no AOTY She can release a more pop focused album and increase her pop audience and her international audience. - But remember what happened to The Weeknd, where he submitted in pop, but pop voters preferred Justin Bieber. And no, we can’t simply blame the committee, there was no nominations review committee in the pop categories. The best chance of an AOTY win for most artists, is to make an album that has broad appeal across different genres - like Folklore that didn’t win in it’s genre, or like R.A.M. where they replaced a lot of electronic instruments and samples with live instrumentation. If SZA can’t win with an album as acclaimed and successful as SOS, and having such broad appeal as SOS, I’m not sure how any black woman can win in the next few years. You definitely make strong points in here but I don’t know what the solution to that would be. With as many voters as there are it’s just not an easy fix.
TheBlackBarbie Posted February 19 Posted February 19 On 2/5/2024 at 8:03 AM, Eat The Acid said: Why did a a 5/10 mid way basic album like midnights win AOTY while black excellence is snubbed? The Grammys is a racist institution and has always been that way, however in the last 15 yrs things have just gotten out of control. Nothing is going to change until Black & other artists of color boycott them by simply not showing up. If every Black & brown artist out there stop showing up, ratings tank and sponsors start pulling out, I bet they'll do something then. 1
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