Apolonio ₃₄ Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Bonicap said: Was it black privilege when Bruno Mars won over Lorde, 'This is America' won over Shallow or 'I Can't Breathe' won over Cardigan or Don't Start Now? Oh I forgot this is just my subjective opinion. Bruno Mars is NOT black. The most idiotic take I’ve read on here in a while. 4
Breathe On Moi Posted February 5 Posted February 5 because Midnights is a total risk and nothing like Taylor has ever done before. or so I’m told, I’ve never listened to it. 4
Finkypop Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Because Midnights is better and Taylor is just a better and bigger artist 5
Selenasworld Posted February 5 Posted February 5 No reason in particular but the same reason successfully records don't even get nominated and frontloaded music get multiple noms and wins
C-Amber Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Blue Monday said: Lyrics like "Karma is a cat" and "Draw the cat eye sharp enough to kill a man" were just too powerful for Grammy voters to deny But Lyrics like this who needed 100 people to work on them deserves to win? "Cunty *****, *****, *****, *****" "Say I want, want, want, what I want, want, want, I want, want, want what I want, want, want, I want, want, want what I want, want, want, I want, want, want what I want, want, want" "Ooh, yeah yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy, yum Yeah, yum yummy" And using the work motherfucker over 40 times in just 2 small songs is innovative 1 1
Blue Monday Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) 1 minute ago, C-Amber said: But Lyrics like this who needed 100 people to work on them deserves to win? "Cunty *****, *****, *****, *****" "Say I want, want, want, what I want, want, want, I want, want, want what I want, want, want, I want, want, want what I want, want, want, I want, want, want what I want, want, want" "Ooh, yeah yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy, yum Yeah, yum yummy" And using the work motherfucker over 40 times in just 2 small songs is innovative And yet it's infinitely more listenable and just better than the regurgitated cat food that y'all call Midnights Edited February 5 by Blue Monday 1
C-Amber Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Just now, Blue Monday said: And yet it's infinitely more listenable than the regurgitated cat food that y'all call Midnights Both trash and repetitive with same sounds. But one wrote it mostly by herself and other needed 100 people to write repetitive words 1 1
2NE1 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, AxelFox said: Let me get this straight. An entire visual project that tells the story of one's marriage as a metaphor to America’s abusive relationship with black people, particularly black women through its music, while highlighting generations of struggles and pain is not 'that album' but kidz bops and nursery rhymes is where it's at. And most of the songs are just ok so what now 2 1
SeeingStars1515 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 I dont like Swift's music at all but I will say SOS was for me, way weaker than CTRL. I dont think SZA wouldve won even if SOS WERE better because this is what happens in the main categories (we know why) but Midnights winning to me was less egregious than Harrys House or 30 winning lol 2
Cheers Posted February 5 Posted February 5 The Grammys def use Bey & Jay as tokens. It’s wild Hive has been bragging about those Grammys for years. White privilege does a play a role in Taylor’s wins but I’d say Grammy politics even more so. She plays the game. I always find it bizarre how social media is always in an uproar about how beloved those Bey albums are but aren’t listening to them. No shade! 1
Blue Monday Posted February 5 Posted February 5 5 minutes ago, C-Amber said: Both trash and repetitive with same sounds. But one wrote it mostly by herself and other needed 100 people to write repetitive words So she's mostly to blame for it sounding like trash and did not deserve AOTY exactly thank you! 1
Armani? Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, CovalentBondage said: Not black privilege Meanwhile, Hip Hop Albums winning AOTY in the past 24 years = 1 4% 1
Bosque Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Because more Grammy voters voted for Midnights than for the other albums 1 1
swissman Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: was it white privilege as well when beyonce became the most awarded artist in grammy history? why only focus on album of the year? a grammy is a grammy Was racism over when Obama got into the white house though? You may say "a Grammy is a Grammy" but that's not what the Hive hears whenever someone wishes to invalidate the amount of Grammys Beyoncé has won. In those cases, a Grammy is not a Grammy, and the fact that most of her's are from genre-categories is considered a major "loss" to her Grammy-win credibility. And this leads us to the answer of your question: most of Beyoncé's wins come from Black-genre-categories like R&B and Hip-Hop. In other words. In these categories she didn't win or lose because she's Black, as most of the artists nominated and voting for those categories are likely to be Black artists themselves. When going into the general categories that everyone votes on, we see very clearly how little Black women especially get awarded for AOTY. You cannot claim a lack of white-privilege in these categories given the stats. 3
MusicLoverDude Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Convenient that you guys are only mad at Taylor for winning, but not mad at Billie or Miley who also won in the general categories last night. The math is not mathing.
Selenasworld Posted February 5 Posted February 5 5 minutes ago, MusicLoverDude said: Convenient that you guys are only mad at Taylor for winning, but not mad at Billie or Miley who also won in the general categories last night. The math is not mathing. Because they are White?
Selenasworld Posted February 5 Posted February 5 9 minutes ago, Dephira said: Because more Grammy voters voted for Midnights than for the other albums Just as simple to understand but swifties will say any other reason
bad guy Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Midnights was the most uninspired, inoffensive, and bland album of the bunch which made it the safest decision for the Grammys. Taylor breaking that tie with Stevie Wonder for most AOTY wins was already a disgrace and it beating SOS to do so was just the icing on the **** cake and a slap in the face to black creatives but none of this is a surprise. The Grammys are objectively racist.
bad guy Posted February 5 Posted February 5 8 minutes ago, MusicLoverDude said: Convenient that you guys are only mad at Taylor for winning, but not mad at Billie or Miley who also won in the general categories last night. The math is not mathing. Because Taylor winning AOTY four times and the most of any artist ever is ridiculous. Especially given her lack of talent compared to the greats in music. The math is not mathing. 1 1 1
swissman Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) 59 minutes ago, C-Amber said: But Lyrics like this who needed 100 people to work on them deserves to win? "Cunty *****, *****, *****, *****" "Say I want, want, want, what I want, want, want, I want, want, want what I want, want, want, I want, want, want what I want, want, want, I want, want, want what I want, want, want" "Ooh, yeah yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy, yum Yeah, yum yummy" And using the work motherfucker over 40 times in just 2 small songs is innovative You think you're proving something but you're essentially quoting ad-libs or breakdowns in songs, and either way this is ignorant considering 100 people didn't write on the album let alone on a single song and the use of repetition in ballroom is a well established musical form so discounting Beyoncé using it in an album celebrating that form would be like to spell out the scatting in a jazz album and then saying "lyrics like this deserve to win?". Edited February 5 by swissman
Brikenbur Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Because if the Grammys didn’t let Taylor win that coveted award they would’ve feared backlash or being seen as “out of touch” because the media loves her all of a sudden and it’s just all politics at the end of the day…. And white middle-aged men who are out of touch with what good music actually is outside of their Pop/Rock pallet. They either want to award a commercially successful album or they’re going with a “shtick” to act as if they’re really diverse in their musical taste/opinions. And literally watching Taylor receive the award last night and how all she cared about was making music to receive awards like that is exactly why they love her so much.
Marry The Gods Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 hours ago, Bonicap said: Was it black privilege when Bruno Mars won over Lorde, 'This is America' won over Shallow or 'I Can't Breathe' won over Cardigan or Don't Start Now? Bruno isn't black. He's Filipino, Puerto Rican and Jewish. 1
makeme Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Taylor having 4 AOTY and black women having 0 for the 21st century tells you enough. 1
swissman Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 hours ago, Bonicap said: Was it black privilege when Bruno Mars won over Lorde, 'This is America' won over Shallow or 'I Can't Breathe' won over Cardigan or Don't Start Now? Oh I forgot this is just my subjective opinion. White privilege does not mean that a white person will always win over a Black one. It means that they are more likely to because of racial bias in the industry, the academy and the world at large. This is not just a theory, but can be shown in the statistics of the actual winners as well. To describe Black artists winning over white ones as "Black privilege" is forgetful of an entire history of anti-Black racism. Do you actually think white people are oppressed by TWO (solo) wins by Black Artists in the last 14 years? On top of that, Black artists need to go above and beyond, it seems, to be recognized, and both examples used are ones where racial politics have been a major element of the song. White artists generally don't need to have a noble message in order for the voting academy to award them with top honours, but it does seem like Black artists need to not only produce great works but need to be taken seriously because of their subject matter, as well, which is a limitation that white artists seem to just not have to fulfil. The non-Black winners of Song of the Year immediately before and after Childish Gambino and H.E.R. won the award were given to songs about love and romance, a rather standard subject-matter.
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