base talk Is it embarassing for the Grammys that an album with these lyrics won AOTY?

[brazil]

'Cause karma is my boyfriend
Karma is a god
Karma is the breeze in my hair on the weekend
Karma's a relaxing thought
Aren't you envious that for you it's not?
Sweet like honey, karma is a cat
Purring in my lap 'cause it loves me
Flexing like a goddamn acrobat
Me and karma vibe like that'

 

With other better alternatives out there? Discuss!

[FolkLover1989]

I think atp you all  

 

Can we have meltdown thread to compile it all up

Edited February 5 by FolkLover1989

[kellebrity98]

album of the year is not only about lyrics. 

 

and also you were so quiet when Victoria Monet won and the lyrics on that is album is: “He gave me some **** in bed, now he think he’s **** embedded”

Edited February 5 by kellebrity98

[She-Rah]

Such a joke. The nursery rhymes hfjdksk

 

the privilege of being white, blonde and having blue eyes smh

[KatyPrismSpirit]

yall need a megathread to cry about this historic win 

[playwithme]

Yes, this award would be more appropriate for an album with Karma, but I'm not hating Taylor because Republican pigs dislike her now. If she endorses Biden, I will gloss over her terrible music.   

 

[enchanted0]

You clearly don’t live with cats I see 

[1989]

Quick, someone make a mega thread for ATRL’s crying over Taylor again 

[Death & Decay]

I’m just waking up to these meltdowns. Lemme grab some coffee. 

[Antisocialites]

it's more embarrassing to write that and refer yourself as a poet

[ohwow]

it's perfect grammy fodder what do u mean

[Zaram]

21 minutes ago, brazil said:

'Cause karma is my boyfriend
Karma is a god
Karma is the breeze in my hair on the weekend
Karma's a relaxing thought
Aren't you envious that for you it's not?
Sweet like honey, karma is a cat
Purring in my lap 'cause it loves me
Flexing like a goddamn acrobat
Me and karma vibe like that'

 

With other better alternatives out there? Discuss!

The way I cackled when they played that song when Taylor won AOTY.

Literally shows the reason why that medicore album shouldn't have won.

[Marry The Gods]

you'll get over it lol

[punisher]

18 minutes ago, kellebrity98 said:

album of the year is not only about lyrics. 

 

and also you were so quiet when Victoria Monet won and the lyrics on that is album is: “He gave me some **** in bed, now he think he’s **** embedded”

so what exactly does midnights shine in

production?

lyrics?

vocals?

 

the only thing it had going for it is it’s success

[devonedelrey]

Its an album for sure but its all over the place ots clear they gave it to her to break the record, embarrassing 

[Mordecai]

20 minutes ago, kellebrity98 said:

album of the year is not only about lyrics. 

But every time Taylor is criticised for her lack of vocal or performing talent Swifties always say 'but her lyrics!!1!1!1! she's a storyteller!!!'

 

[airplane]

The way her stans are yelling “OTH meltdowns” and do not posess the mental capability to discuss how unfair this win is to more talented artists with better bodies of work like Lana and Sza… just very cultish behaviour idk.

 

I mean we’re used to the Grammys awarding bare minimium garbage at this point (also seen last year with Harry’s house). Nothing will change.

Edited February 5 by airplane

[Achilles.]

No. Karma is one of her best pop songs and deserved Cruel Summer’s success. 

[PoisonedIvy]

It baffles me how yall still are so blatantly ignorant and cherry pick the songs Taylor has clearly stated she intentionally writes for the sake of becoming radio candy earworms. They are intentionally saccharine and camp in a way that is meant to seem silly. Meanwhile her album cuts are where she really flexes her lyrical prowess. This is quite literally the reason she has thrived as an album artist over time. 
 

No amount of whining about Karma, Shake It Off, and WANEGBT is ever going to erase the magnificence of State of Grace, You’re On Your Own Kid, Clean, and the likes. 

Edited February 5 by PoisonedIvy

[theoghon]

ATP I can only assume academy voters were held at gunpoint by their Eras-tour-attending wives & daughters to vote for #taytay, because how could they NOT, our queen taytay #slayed 

[airplane]

Her fans have constantly doxxed and threatened people who give her bad reviews. It’s a whole mafia at this point 

[PoisonedIvy]

4 minutes ago, airplane said:

The way her stans are yelling “OTH meltdowns” and do not posess the mental capability to discuss how unfair this win is to more talented artists with better bodies of work like Lana and Sza is just very cultish behaviour.

No, most of us do possess that capability. Do yall? 
 

Because “better bodies of work” is subjective. I personally enjoyed Midnights more, and clearly so did the recording artists that voted for the Grammys tonight. If a larger quantity of people enjoyed something, and it is reflected in every possible metric of success AND qualitative reception, why be surprised when it is awarded accordingly?
 

At that point it is a personal vendetta you have with the artist or the album that is blinding you from accepting the reality of things: Midnights is a strong body of work. It’s ok if it’s not your cup of tea, it’s ok if you wanted something else to win, but it’s not a “worse” album than SOS or Tunnel. They are all different artists, they all do different things, and this time around, Taylor’s thing “appealed” to more of her peers. It’s that simple.

 

And the nuance of black women not being recognized by the greater majority is a different conversation that isn’t confined to this one particular year, it is a systemic issue that has been ongoing for decades. To reduce it to a conversation about this specific year would be doing a disservice to the discourse.

[Mr.X]

11 minutes ago, airplane said:

The way her stans are yelling “OTH meltdowns” and do not posess the mental capability to discuss how unfair this win is to more talented artists with better bodies of work like Lana and Sza… just very cultish behaviour idk.

 

I mean we’re used to the Grammys awarding bare minimium garbage at this point (also seen last year with Harry’s house). Nothing will change.

This. It is about politics, whiteness and mediocrity. Taylor is the most high profile artist in the world right now, of course the Grammys would award her. Similar with Harry last year. Both albums are as shite as each other and won over incredible bodies of work.

 

At this stage, you have to actually consider if this is just for click bate and racism. Because in no world is Midnights or Harry's album any better produced, sang, felt or written than the others in contention. They are simply more white, boring and successful

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, Mr.X said:

This. It is about politics, whiteness and mediocrity. Taylor is the most high profile artist in the world right now, of course the Grammys would award her. Similar with Harry last year. Both albums are as shite as each other and won over incredible bodies of work.

 

At this stage, you have to actually consider if this is just for click bate and racism. Because in no world is Midnights or Harry's album any better produced, sang, felt or written than the others in contention. They are simply more white, boring and successful

Then stop caring about white metrics of success? Renaissance was a queer black album. Like, in what WORLD do you see the majority of American citizens — white folks — enjoying r&b/house/hip hop/dance music heavily injected with black culture? That album is not for them and it never was going to be respected by them. As a black person I am not upset that white people don’t connect to black art, I genuinely do not care. Some of you all need to stop caring too. 
 

The Grammys are voted on by peers in the music industry. An album that is more “digestible” is going to have more wide of an appeal. Harry’s album was easier for a country or rock listener to enjoy than Renaissance was. I personally liked Renaissance more but I completely understand that it is a polarizing piece of art. To ignore that is ludicrous. 

[airplane]

12 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

No, most of us do possess that capability. Do yall? 
 

Because “better bodies of work” is subjective. I personally enjoyed Midnights more, and clearly so did the recording artists that voted for the Grammys tonight. If a larger quantity of people enjoyed something, and it is reflected in every possible metric of success AND qualitative reception, why be surprised when it is awarded accordingly?
 

At that point it is a personal vendetta you have with the artist or the album that is blinding you from accepting the reality of things: Midnights is a strong body of work. It’s ok if it’s not your cup of tea, it’s ok if you wanted something else to win, but it’s not a “worse” album than SOS or Tunnel. They are all different artists, they all do different things, and this time around, Taylor’s thing “appealed” to more of her peers. It’s that simple.

 

And the nuance of black women not being recognized by the greater majority is a different conversation that isn’t confined to this one particular year, it is a systemic issue that has been ongoing for decades. To reduce it to a conversation about this specific year would be doing a disservice to the discourse.

MIDnights is not a strong body of work. I am not a fan of Taylor but I know when she makes a good album. Her win for folklore was deserved but Midnights literally goes nowhere and is lacking artistically. She literally put rejects from folkmore onto the deluxe versions too.

 

It was rewarded because she had a very succesful year, rewarded based on numerical metrics, because she’s Taylor Swift, its that simple. Taylor’s thing appealing to more people implies that there’s some form of bias involved because how does she get it 4 times while other critically acclaimed artists who have also had a very succesful year don’t (SOS)???

 

I’m very certain there’s some sort of favouritism involved and it doesn’t help that your fanbase has been seen threatening and doxxing people who rated Midnights lower on reviews that counted towards Metacritic.

Edited February 5 by airplane