Into The Void Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 minute ago, Devin said: its unfair but the sad reality. and its not just Black artists also for the talented Hispanic, Asian, etc. artists Each album that lost over the karma is a cat chanteuse lmao 2
Lagerfeld Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) Robbed artists like Beyoncé need to boycott the Grammys. There is no point in attending the event, going up the stage, and practically begging for an AOTY. The Grammys clearly win when you do this. Edited February 5 by Lagerfeld
dawnettakins Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Release bland, boring music that caters to the lyrics-as-poetry crowd.
Johnathon Posted February 5 Posted February 5 6 minutes ago, Yellowfever said: Actually write their own music. Sza literally does that. 5 2
Yellowfever Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Just now, Johnathon said: Sza literally does that. Yes but Taylor did that too and had more commercial success. I believe she’s strongly involved in the production process as well. 4
CandleGuy Posted February 5 Posted February 5 It would have to be Bey but she was never going to win for a house music album. She can win with her next release if she goes for the acclaim and avoids releasing the same year as Taylor and Billie.
Marianah Adkins Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Its pointless at this point. SZA writes her stuff, Beyonce is a commercial juggernaut (esp in 2013-14 season) yet they get snubbed repeatedly. Meanwhile, phoning in an album, full of basic- hallmark card of lyrics, set in the most lifeless and unimagnitive production can get you tons of flowers from them. 8
R.E.M. Posted February 5 Posted February 5 15 minutes ago, Devin said: nothing. our brown artists will be punished forever. we're constantly told to seek validation from the same institutions that tell us we aren't good enough for their 'top prizes' then we come online and, when airing our grievances, are gaslit into thinking these systemic inequalities don't exist 12
naval23 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Yup - the output of black artists has to be 200% better to even be a contender compared to white peers Renaissance against Harry's House was the perfect example 1
Lactose_Milk Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Till this day! I still remember that Irish band, U2 beating Mariah Carey. The Emancipation of Mimi" was also one of the best-selling albums of the 21st century. So even if you write your own songs, have the best album and is the highest selling release you still aren’t deserving. 5
Stankonia Posted February 5 Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, dawnettakins said: Release bland, boring music that caters to the lyrics-as-poetry crowd. It only works for white people though No but seriously, when are we finally gonna stop caring about those stupid award shows? They NEVER get it right
Popular Post R.E.M. Posted February 5 Popular Post Posted February 5 1 minute ago, Yellowfever said: Yes but Taylor did that too and had more commercial success. I believe she’s strongly involved in the production process as well. SOS spent 10 weeks at #1, is still Top 10 over a year after release, and spawned two massive hits (Kill Bill, Snooze). It also had several pre-release hits (Good Days, Shirt, I Hate U). It's at 4M units in the U.S. It's obviously a commercially successful album with the critical acclaim to back it up. She is involved in writing and producing as well. On paper, she ticks all the boxes of what y'all tell us is 'deserving' of AOTY. So I am once again asking why someone who meets these arbitrary criteria is shunned from AOTY while others (i.e., white artists) get AOTY four times. 4 14
Devin Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 minute ago, R.E.M. said: we're constantly told to seek validation from the same institutions that tell us we aren't good enough for their 'top prizes' then we come online and, when airing our grievances, are gaslit into thinking these systemic inequalities don't exist that part. many Black artists accomplished what Grammys aim for to win AOTY and in return they get rejected for whatever reason. 1
Marianah Adkins Posted February 5 Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, Yellowfever said: Yes but Taylor did that too and had more commercial success. I believe she’s strongly involved in the production process as well. Explain Harry’s House then? Commercial success yes but production + lyrics? basic and laughable. Jon Batiste also won despite selling and certifying aluminum foil. Same with Beck The Grammys are just inconsistent with their standards. I wouldve understood the way they vote if they are consistent but they arent and it reeks of bias. 7
Gov Hooka Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Y’all need to stop caring about these bougie awards that are longstanding white institutions and pretending that whether these black/brown rich ppl get approval at these galas are black/brown issues…. There are literally bigger fish to fry… 5
R.E.M. Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 minute ago, Devin said: that part. many Black artists accomplished what Grammys aim for to win AOTY and in return they get rejected for whatever reason. well we know the reason but we can't say it bc we're gonna get spammed with 'RaCe CaRd ' rhetoric and i dont have the energy for it anymore there's a reason y'all put grammys on a pedestal and use it as a basis for your arguments about why artist X is better than artist Y (even though it isn't a fair playing field). 4
Yellowfever Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, R.E.M. said: SOS spent 10 weeks at #1, is still Top 10 over a year after release, and spawned two massive hits (Kill Bill, Snooze). It also had several pre-release hits (Good Days, Shirt, I Hate U). It's at 4M units in the U.S. It's obviously a commercially successful album with the critical acclaim to back it up. She is involved in writing and producing as well. On paper, she ticks all the boxes of what y'all tell us is 'deserving' of AOTY. So I am once again asking why someone who meets these arbitrary criteria is shunned from AOTY while others (i.e., white artists) get AOTY four times. She does not have credits as a producer in SOS. Taylor just did everything better and had more success, it was bad timing for SZA. 4
Specter Posted February 5 Posted February 5 21 minutes ago, Yellowfever said: Actually write their own music. Racist ass *****, did you just imply black artists can't write their music??? 4
R.E.M. Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 minute ago, Yellowfever said: She does not have credits as a producer in SOS. Taylor just did everything better and had more success, it was bad timing for SZA. I promise she did not I pray y'all learn to stop conflating commercial success with quality, and you stop looking to corrupt institutions (like the recording academy) to substantiate your claims that one artist is better than another. 2
Yellowfever Posted February 5 Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, Marianah Adkins said: Explain Harry’s House then? Commercial success yes but production + lyrics? basic and laughable. Jon Batiste also won despite selling and certifying aluminum foil. Same with Beck The Grammys are just inconsistent with their standards. I wouldve understood the way they vote if they are consistent but they arent and it reeks of bias. Harry’s house = huge commercial success + all songs written by harry with only one or two co-writters. 2
Devin Posted February 5 Posted February 5 6 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said: Y’all need to stop caring about these bougie awards that are longstanding white institutions and pretending that whether these black/brown rich ppl get approval at these galas are black/brown issues…. There are literally bigger fish to fry… i havent watched since Blinding Lights was snubbed outta nominations. i peep the chartdata notifications and just laugh or smh.
Marianah Adkins Posted February 5 Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, Yellowfever said: Harry’s house = huge commercial success + all songs written by harry with only one or two co-writters. so its really not about quality then. Cuz those songs outside of As It Was.. 3
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