ClashAndBurn Posted January 24 Posted January 24 8 minutes ago, Varrock said: Which post of mine remotely suggests I’m liberal? I think you’re confused, which is ok because many of the individuals here seem to be. You make the exact same talking points as Biden supporters and KHivers who try to shout down everybody with the importance of ignoring that we’re funding a genocide in order to maintain our comfort and ability to look the other way here at home. Rather than pressuring Biden to change course, they’re scolding people for having very valid reasons to not want to exercise their voting rights to save the morally bankrupt presidency of a mass-murder supplier like Genocide Joe. That’s exactly what you’re doing here. 2
Varrock Posted January 24 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, ClashAndBurn said: You make the exact same talking points as Biden supporters and KHivers who try to shout down everybody with the importance of ignoring that we’re funding a genocide in order to maintain our comfort and ability to look the other way here at home. Rather than pressuring Biden to change course, they’re scolding people for having very valid reasons to not want to exercise their voting rights to save the morally bankrupt presidency of a mass-murder supplier like Genocide Joe. That’s exactly what you’re doing here. Ok, so maybe you and the 5 other users here should make a new socialist AOC pact and solve a 75 year old war since you obviously know what you’re doing and every sitting US president thus far since then has just been a dumbo. Let me know how that goes for ya! 8 2
dawnettakins Posted January 24 Posted January 24 He's really over huh Never gonna be able to have an event or hold a speech without being heckled over this embarrassment and atrocity of his own doing. And deservedly so! 2 1
GraceRandolph Posted January 24 Posted January 24 3 hours ago, Varrock said: Ok, and so if we put our last two hardworking brain cells together, we realize this won’t happen. Are you snowflakes going to pull a Hillary 2016 again and not vote at all and let a madman get into power again and ruin your lives for another 4 years (or for decades if we take the SC into consideration)? Do it! Have fun! Are you going to canvas for Biden and try to get non-voters on board to compensate for his lack of Arab and Gen Z appeal? 2
Sergi91 Posted January 24 Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Mtjjproducer said: Ya going to down vote me to hell and back but Idc and won’t check But I care more about my rights in this country and making sure I protect them by making sure that Biden is president over trump which could stop me from getting married, discriminated because I’m black, or the rights of women to have rights in THIS country than I do for either side of the Israel and Palestine war. Both of which couldn’t care less for my black American ass. third party has ZERO chance of winning. Ya progressives did the same **** in 2016 when Bernie lost and we got trumps ass. If ya care so much take your asses to Gaza and fight on the front line there or stfu This! 1
dawnettakins Posted January 24 Posted January 24 I'm so sick of the constant fearmongering about everyone's rights being stripped away if we don't vote D. Well guess what? People did, and we do, and Roe v Wade STILL got dismantled and women's rights were taken away. Just one example, but plenty of others of people's rights being stripped away in this country. And what are Dems doing about it? Abslutely NOTHING. As is usually the case. They love to campaign on it and make promises and constantly fearmonger, then do absolutely nothing about any of it once in office. (At a federal level) 10 1 2
spree Posted January 24 Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Mtjjproducer said: Ya going to down vote me to hell and back but Idc and won’t check But I care more about my rights in this country and making sure I protect them by making sure that Biden is president over trump which could stop me from getting married, discriminated because I’m black, or the rights of women to have rights in THIS country than I do for either side of the Israel and Palestine war. Both of which couldn’t care less for my black American ass. third party has ZERO chance of winning. Ya progressives did the same **** in 2016 when Bernie lost and we got trumps ass. If ya care so much take your asses to Gaza and fight on the front line there or stfu I agree with this, too. I'm not voting for Biden, I'm voting for the Democratic party which doesn't want to take away the rights of women, lbgtq+, or dismantle church and state, the department of education, etc. Trump puts on this front of border border border and drill baby drill (which I don't mind, actually) is the distraction from the REAL policy change, which is Project 25. There will be laws put into place that won't even make the news cuz the main storylines will always be the other two. It's scary. 4
Varrock Posted January 24 Posted January 24 18 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Are you going to canvas for Biden and try to get non-voters on board to compensate for his lack of Arab and Gen Z appeal? No, because I too couldn’t care less for Biden for other reasons but a lack of support from Arab voters will not make or break his election results.
GraceRandolph Posted January 24 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Varrock said: No, because I too couldn’t care less for Biden for other reasons but a lack of support from Arab voters will not make or break his election results. He's also bleeding support overall though, not just one demographic. 2020 was decided by a handful of votes in certain swing states, why are you acting like Biden can afford to lose any support?
teresaguidice Posted January 24 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Varrock said: No, because I too couldn’t care less for Biden for other reasons but a lack of support from Arab voters will not make or break his election results. then why are you worked up enough to make a dupe and camp out here arguing 2 12
GraceRandolph Posted January 24 Posted January 24 3 hours ago, Bloodflowers. said: Protestors: stop funding genocide ATRL & Souless democrats screaming into a void: but what about Trump!1!1 Yeah, what about it? They want YOU to stop murder, because you're either gonna stop it or you won't. They're not asking Trump because they won't be voting for him anyways, they want to vote for you and they won't do it unless you cut ties with far-right Israeli governemt Dems have literally not evolved at all in almost a decade now. It's just the same finger-pointing, blame shifting, and Trump fearmongering.
Communion Posted January 24 Author Posted January 24 21 minutes ago, Varrock said: No, because I too couldn’t care less for Biden Sounds like you better get your ass to work instead then: https://joebiden.com/work-with-us/ Good luck. 1
Communion Posted January 24 Author Posted January 24 19 minutes ago, teresaguidice said: then why are you worked up enough to make a dupe and camp out here arguing "These antisemites and their echo chamber and empty arguments they always do to bring Biden down!" "Joined 3 weeks ago" 1 1 4
Miss Show Business Posted January 24 Posted January 24 57 minutes ago, dawnettakins said: And what are Dems doing about it? Abslutely NOTHING. As is usually the case. They love to campaign on it and make promises and constantly fearmonger, then do absolutely nothing about any of it once in office. (At a federal level) Exactly what do you think Dems can do about it? Pass a law through a GOP controlled congress and deadlocked 50-50 Senate? Have POTUS sign an executive order that would probably quickly be struck down by SCOTUS? I do not understand why people cannot realize that Dems cannot accomplish their goals when the GOP is half of the electorate and basically wants everyone to suffer with no healthcare, civil rights, immigration rights, welfare programs, etc. 5 3
fememeist Posted January 24 Posted January 24 The democrats in this thread are such brainless sheep for having the vote blue no matter what mentality. Literally 90% of us Gen Z people are sick and tired of the two party system, and even more disillusioned with Biden. Don’t want Trump to win? Tell Biden to make better decisions since you donkeys dick ride so hard for his reelection 4 1 6
Donquizote Posted January 24 Posted January 24 This is so embarrassing. Is this the best candidate Dem has? 1
brraap Posted January 24 Posted January 24 4 hours ago, Varrock said: 1. The US is dependent on Israel arguably more than Israel is dependent on them. Their relationship will never fall even with the most left winging president in power. Again, if you knew anything about the history or implications of the war(s), you’d understand. 2. “Some guys” as if we’re not discussing tens of thousands of terrorists firing thousands of rockets a month for the last 20 years powered and funded by nuclear war state, IRAN. Y’all just love to downplay this sh*t as much as you can, eh? 3. Cease the fighting? EVERY ceasefire in the last 20 years that Israel has had with Hamas has ended by HAMAS. Why the **** would they ceasefire now? So Iran can re-supply a terrorist group with more weapons and ammunition so they can infiltrate Israel and kill more civilians on their own terms as they have done over and over and over again? Plsssss use your brains I feel like I’m explaining War 101: The Basics to a bunch of toddlers. 1) Your original point was that Biden had criticised Israel (he hasn’t). Even the most left-swinging American president would have strong ties with Israel sure, but they probably wouldn’t (unlike Biden) feel the need to illegally bypass congress to launch strikes on Yemen. Biden’s foreign policy is so ****** that it makes Trump’s look sane. Democrats and republicans are both very right wing. Unfortunately the US is politically ******. 2) Hamas’ goal is Palestinian liberation. They weren’t a thing years ago. So why is Palestine still shrinking at a rapid rate. The word you’re looking for is illegal Israeli settlements. The iron dome intercepts these rockets. Israeli govmt knew hamas was planning Oct 7th for over a year. So how convenient on that day the dome just didn’t work properly Israel is *also* a nuclear state and in fact has threatened to use it multiple times. You can’t just deflect to “but IRAN!!!11” If Iran is a nuclear war state, so is the US and Israel. So now what 3) On 1 December, the truce ended with Hamas alleging that Israel rejected a hostage exchange deal to prolong the truce, and Hamas then launched rockets into Sderot.[8][9][10] Israel responded with air raids on Gaza with the Gaza Health Ministry reporting 20 deaths.[11][12][13] By 2 December negotiations had broken down, with the Israeli delegation leaving Qatar following an impasse and Hamas announcing they will not release any more hostages until the end of the war.[14] The US blamed Hamas for violating the truce and the terms of the ceasefire.[15][16] Or do you just scream buzz words like anti semitism!!! Khamas!! Every post hoping you’ve achieved something 1
Varrock Posted January 24 Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, brraap said: 1) Your original point was that Biden had criticised Israel (he hasn’t). Even the most left-swinging American president would have strong ties with Israel sure, but they probably wouldn’t (unlike Biden) feel the need to illegally bypass congress to launch strikes on Yemen. Biden’s foreign policy is so ****** that it makes Trump’s look sane. Democrats and republicans are both very right wing. Unfortunately the US is politically ******. 2) Hamas’ goal is Palestinian liberation. They weren’t a thing years ago. So why is Palestine still shrinking at a rapid rate. The word you’re looking for is illegal Israeli settlements. The iron dome intercepts these rockets. Israeli govmt knew hamas was planning Oct 7th for over a year. So how convenient on that day the dome just didn’t work properly Israel is *also* a nuclear state and in fact has threatened to use it multiple times. You can’t just deflect to “but IRAN!!!11” If Iran is a nuclear war state, so is the US and Israel. So now what 3) On 1 December, the truce ended with Hamas alleging that Israel rejected a hostage exchange deal to prolong the truce, and Hamas then launched rockets into Sderot.[8][9][10] Israel responded with air raids on Gaza with the Gaza Health Ministry reporting 20 deaths.[11][12][13] By 2 December negotiations had broken down, with the Israeli delegation leaving Qatar following an impasse and Hamas announcing they will not release any more hostages until the end of the war.[14] The US blamed Hamas for violating the truce and the terms of the ceasefire.[15][16] Or do you just scream buzz words like anti semitism!!! Khamas!! Every post hoping you’ve achieved something 1. He has and I sent you several links that say otherwise. 2. Hamas has *literally* been in power of Palestine since 2007. Wtf are you talking about they “haven’t been a thing since recently”? And Palestine shrinking at a rapid rate? The population of Palestine has grown by 155% in the past 32 years, you absolute imbecile. https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html#:~:text=HAMAS has been the de,the Palestinian Authority from power.&text=Primarily in Gaza%3B also maintains,Qatar%2C and Cairo%2C Egypt. https://www.worlddata.info/asia/palestine/populationgrowth.php#:~:text=From 1990 to 2022 the,155.0 percent in 32 years. Just because Israel possesses technology to intercept the majority of the thousands of missiles that Hamas launches at them, doesn’t mean that excuses anything? are you telling me you’d rather Israel didn’t have the Iron Dome and so then you could flaunt that the civilian death tolls are similar? Maniac. 3. I already answered this before. If you or your family members were held hostage for over 3 months and malnourished, raped, and tortured on a daily basis, I would DARE you to still have the audacity to ask YOUR country to not go out and look for you. Thank you (yet again) for proving you are a fake-woke degenerate white twink who lives in the safety of the Western world and gets his information of 30 second Tik Tok videos. And thanks for proving (yet again) that you are an antisemite. BIRDBRAIN!! 1 1 2
playwithme Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Israel's military operation is Gaza is definitely not a genocide. Do pro-Hamas accounts just use this term based on vibes? 12
GraceRandolph Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Just now, playwithme said: Israel's military operation is Gaza is definitely not a genocide. Do pro-Hamas accounts just use this term based on vibes? 1
o0l0o Posted January 24 Posted January 24 3 hours ago, Machete said: "Four more years of genocide" I am convinced "leftist" Americans think they live in a fantasy USA where there are more than two options for President. They desperately need to wake up and realize the next President WILL be Biden or Trump, who are both pro-Israel. None of their "symbolic" protest third-party or absentee votes will change that. So it is time to move-on from the "Genocide supporter angle" and consider other important topics... They don't actually care about the people suffering and what's going on in the world. They only care about their political beliefs and ideologies. If a person truly cares about the deaths of innocent lives in Gaza, that person would never risk Trump winning because that guarantees more casualties. They're literally trying to punish the party to prove a point, even if that meant more war, more deaths, and more rights being stripped away. 2
GraceRandolph Posted January 24 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, o0l0o said: They don't actually care about the people suffering and what's going on in the world. They only care about their political beliefs and ideologies. If a person truly cares about the deaths of innocent lives in Gaza, that person would never risk Trump winning because that guarantees more casualties. They're literally trying to punish the party to prove a point, even if that meant more war, more deaths, and more rights being stripped away. No, we want to push the party because we can SEE with our own eyes that Biden is a pitifully weak candidate who will likely lose to Trump unless he changes course. 2
Bosque Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) 3 hours ago, Varrock said: Ok, so maybe you and the 5 other users here should make a new socialist AOC pact and solve a 75 year old war since you obviously know what you’re doing and every sitting US president thus far since then has just been a dumbo. Let me know how that goes for ya! Well they think that the conflict could easily be solved if Israel dissolved the IDF and abolished their borders, and just lived together with several million people whose openly stated, written goal is to “obliterate Israel”, “fight Jews and kill them” and who say that “so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement”, and that “There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad”. So I guess their plan is to find a third party presidential candidate who supports these values Then once Trump wins the election and helps Israel dismantle the entirety of Palestine within a day, he’ll quickly have time to dismantle minority rights and outlaw the existence of Transgender people, at which point they’ll come on ATRL to complain that Biden voters destroyed their life Edited January 24 by Dephira 3 4 4
playwithme Posted January 24 Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: A YouTube video? Lol. The pro-Hamas tankies on this website continue to deny that Holodomor was a genocide of the Ukrainian people despite the fact that the Raphael Lemkin, the historian who coin the term "genocide," said that the destruction of the Ukrainian nation was a classic example of genocide. Meanwhile, they are disingenuously misappropriating this term for Gaza. Israel's actions do not fall under a legal definition of what constitutes genocide. 2
brraap Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Varrock said: 1. He has and I sent you several links that say otherwise. 2. Hamas has *literally* been in power of Palestine since 2007. Wtf are you talking about they “haven’t been a thing since recently”? And Palestine shrinking at a rapid rate? The population of Palestine has grown by 155% in the past 32 years, you absolute imbecile. https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/hamas_fto.html#:~:text=HAMAS has been the de,the Palestinian Authority from power.&text=Primarily in Gaza%3B also maintains,Qatar%2C and Cairo%2C Egypt. https://www.worlddata.info/asia/palestine/populationgrowth.php#:~:text=From 1990 to 2022 the,155.0 percent in 32 years. Just because Israel possesses technology to intercept the majority of the thousands of missiles that Hamas launches at them, doesn’t mean that excuses anything? are you telling me you’d rather Israel didn’t have the Iron Dome and so then you could flaunt that the civilian death tolls are similar? Maniac. 3. I already answered this before. If you or your family members were held hostage for over 3 months and malnourished, raped, and tortured on a daily basis, I would DARE you to still have the audacity to ask YOUR country to not go out and look for you. Thank you (yet again) for proving you are a fake-woke degenerate white twink who lives in the safety of the Western world and gets his information of 30 second Tik Tok videos. And thanks for proving (yet again) that you are an antisemite. BIRDBRAIN!! You genuinely have zero critical thinking skills. Biden blindly supports Israel. Multiple people have shown you things he’s said from his own mouth throughout the conflict that you chose to ignore Next up: some pictures since I genuinely think you’re trolling and cannot be this ignorant and obtuse This is the case for many Palestinians. The IDF detains literal children as young as 12 and subjects them to all the above and worse. An estimated 10,000 Palestinian childrenhave been held in military detention over the past 20 years, with Save the Children noting that they are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” As of Nov. 20, Israeli forces had arrested as many as 880 Palestinian children this year, a practice made possible under Israel’s draconian military laws. https://time.com/6548068/palestinian-children-israeli-prison-arrested/ Israel detains children for as little as throwing a rock. When some of the hostages were freed they were dapping up Hamas fighters and talking about how they treated them humanely Initially, they ate “chicken with rice, all sorts of canned food and cheese,” Munder told Channel 13, in an audio interview. “We were OK.” https://apnews.com/article/hostage-gaza-freed-israel-captive-408f65fcc1b8f016f3735cd5022163eb You WISH I was a white twink Edited January 24 by brraap 4
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