readytowind Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 minute ago, MadOnHer said: They're promising an "honest portrayal" with MJ being played by his nephew and the film being produced by the two executors of his estate! Very typical 1 2
MatiRod Posted January 14 Posted January 14 This will be one of the most controversial films of all time
smartalek22 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 I've never been more perched for a truecrime documentary in my life 1
Moloko Plus Posted January 14 Posted January 14 It is kinda crazy to think about how he passed in 2009. I remember the news like it was yesterday, makes me feel so old. 1
Betty White Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Unless they drag him for being a pedo they should keep it 6 7
ICLDXU4HS Posted January 14 Posted January 14 56 minutes ago, MatiRod said: This will be one of the most controversial films of all time What would be controversial about it? He’s being played by his nephew and his estate is involved. It will be a panned, whitewashed laughingstock—that’s all. 1
MatiRod Posted January 14 Posted January 14 20 minutes ago, ICLDXU4HS said: What would be controversial about it? He’s being played by his nephew and his estate is involved. It will be a panned, whitewashed laughingstock—that’s all. I meant the discussion about the film in the media, social media etc
ForgottenSoul Posted January 14 Posted January 14 4 hours ago, Jotham said: It's just gonna be damage control Damage control for a dead person?
C-Amber Posted January 14 Posted January 14 I hope the movie will be great and in bar with Michael name, tired of all **** shows that did him dirty. 2
Armani? Posted January 15 Author Posted January 15 The people expecting a dead man who was found innocent in court & still hasn't been exposed with evidence other than anecdotes to be depicted as a pedophile 7 1 4
IsidoraMarí Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Jaafar looks just like him, I can't wait. Thankfully Michael never got to the point where his children hated him and he started dancing nude with kitchen knives due to the stress of fame. The Sheeple will deny the obvious but believe the slander. 1 4
MattieB Posted January 15 Posted January 15 14 hours ago, Bloo said: Headcanon is a terrible argument. Plenty of Black folk aren’t here for Michael Jackson’s behavior and think the allegations should be taken seriously. Well of course i don't know the thoughts of every black person, obviously some will still not like him, but the majority of folks have identified the truth and gone back to consuming his music. In my opinion, i only see the pedo callouts from caucasians, which i don't care much about because his true community has gone back to loving him. Elvis was a whole ass groomer and rapist yet they support him like no other 2 1
MattieB Posted January 15 Posted January 15 11 hours ago, Armani? said: The people expecting a dead man who was found innocent in court & still hasn't been exposed with evidence other than anecdotes to be depicted as a pedophile Someway somehow im not suprised a forum full of yt twinks to be privy of his innocence 2 1
Mariya Takeuchi Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) 8 hours ago, IsidoraMarí said: Jaafar looks just like him, I can't wait. Thankfully Michael never got to the point where his children hated him and he started dancing nude with kitchen knives due to the stress of fame. The Sheeple will deny the obvious but believe the slander. he almost dropped his kid from a balcony while high af ot; i hope they stop at off the wall/triumph Edited January 15 by Mariya Takeuchi . 3
GlamSlam Posted January 15 Posted January 15 13 hours ago, Betty White said: Unless they drag him for being a pedo they should keep it Isn't that what Leaving Neverland 1+2 were for? Besides, they already said they were going to address the allegations. What's the point in making a biopic and ignoring the most controversial part of his life?
vale9001 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) They're gonna show what's history. Him being processed for some crimes and what courts have said about these crimes. The facts. Whatever people wants to believe it's their right and will stay, if there are persons said things on documentaries or whatever...they're not part of a biography that has that person at the centre. Not other people. Edited January 15 by vale9001
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted January 15 ATRL Moderator Posted January 15 15 hours ago, Armani? said: The people expecting a dead man who was found innocent in court & still hasn't been exposed with evidence other than anecdotes to be depicted as a pedophile "Not guilty" is not the same thing as innocent. Additionally, it's a bit ridiculous to say people who were abused as children have to provide rock solid proof to be taken seriously. Especially when their alleged abuser has been confirmed to have been sharing a bed with children, having sleepovers with children, owning a book with images of nude children (which his defenders say is an "art book"), wire traps to ring bells when anyone approaches his bedroom, among other things. You couple that with simple facts that one of Michael Jackson's staff testified that they saw him shower with a boy that would defend him during the trial only to come out later and allege that he was a victim of sexual abuse at the hand of Michael Jackson. Why would the staff member be able to identify a child that would later grow up to make that allegation? Regardless, Michael Jackson's actions that can be verified via the public record is textbook groomer behavior. You're free to not believe it, but it's dangerous to set a precedent that child sexual abuse victims need to provide proof to be taken seriously. That precedent and standard only helps abusers. 4 hours ago, MattieB said: Well of course i don't know the thoughts of every black person, obviously some will still not like him, but the majority of folks have identified the truth and gone back to consuming his music. In my opinion, i only see the pedo callouts from caucasians, which i don't care much about because his true community has gone back to loving him. Elvis was a whole ass groomer and rapist yet they support him like no other It's a bit silly to claim a "majority" of any population without referring to hard numbers. But, even if you are correct, that doesn't make the allegations less damning. I remember Black folk giving R. Kelly a pass for years after the allegations first started coming out. Much of the defense claimed to be "defending a successful Black man the system wants to take down" even though most of his victims were Black women and Black girls. 9
IsidoraMarí Posted January 15 Posted January 15 4 hours ago, Mariya Takeuchi said: he almost dropped his kid from a balcony while high af ot; i hope they stop at off the wall/triumph It's a baby they aren't hard to hold. People throw babies in the air all the time, far more dangerous than holding the baby. Like where did he ever almost drop Prince? 2 1
ICLDXU4HS Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Imagine thinking Pedo File was mentally sound or stable at any point in the decade before it died. 1
MadOnHer Posted January 15 Posted January 15 21 minutes ago, Bloo said: "Not guilty" is not the same thing as innocent. Additionally, it's a bit ridiculous to say people who were abused as children have to provide rock solid proof to be taken seriously. Especially when there alleged abuser has been confirmed to have been sharing a bed with children, having sleepovers with children, owning a book with images of nude children (which his defenders say is an "art book"), wire traps to ring bells when anyone approaches his bedroom, among other things. You couple that with simple facts that one of Michael Jackson's staff testified that they saw him shower with a boy that would defend him during the trial only to come out later and allege that he was a victim of sexual abuse at the hand of Michael Jackson. Why would the staff member be able to identify a child that would later grow up to make that allegation? Regardless, Michael Jackson's actions that can be verified via the public record is textbook groomer behavior. You're free to not believe it, but it's dangerous to set a precedent that child sexual abuse victims need to provide proof to be taken seriously. That precedent and standard only helps abusers. It's a bit silly to claim a "majority" of any population without referring to hard numbers. But, even if you are correct, that doesn't make the allegations less damning. I remember Black folk giving R. Kelly a pass for years after the allegations first started coming out. Much of the defense claimed to be "defending a successful Black man the system wants to take down" even though most of his victims were Black women and Black girls.
Mariya Takeuchi Posted January 15 Posted January 15 23 minutes ago, IsidoraMarí said: It's a baby they aren't hard to hold. People throw babies in the air all the time, far more dangerous than holding the baby. Like where did he ever almost drop Prince? 1 1 1
FightDragonsWithMe Posted January 15 Posted January 15 We dont want it and won't be tuning in. Let the pdf. rest. 1
Armani? Posted January 15 Author Posted January 15 55 minutes ago, Bloo said: "Not guilty" is not the same thing as innocent. Additionally, it's a bit ridiculous to say people who were abused as children have to provide rock solid proof to be taken seriously. Especially when their alleged abuser has been confirmed to have been sharing a bed with children, having sleepovers with children, owning a book with images of nude children (which his defenders say is an "art book"), wire traps to ring bells when anyone approaches his bedroom, among other things. You couple that with simple facts that one of Michael Jackson's staff testified that they saw him shower with a boy that would defend him during the trial only to come out later and allege that he was a victim of sexual abuse at the hand of Michael Jackson. Why would the staff member be able to identify a child that would later grow up to make that allegation? Regardless, Michael Jackson's actions that can be verified via the public record is textbook groomer behavior. You're free to not believe it, but it's dangerous to set a precedent that child sexual abuse victims need to provide proof to be taken seriously. That precedent and standard only helps abusers. It's a bit silly to claim a "majority" of any population without referring to hard numbers. But, even if you are correct, that doesn't make the allegations less damning. I remember Black folk giving R. Kelly a pass for years after the allegations first started coming out. Much of the defense claimed to be "defending a successful Black man the system wants to take down" even though most of his victims were Black women and Black girls. R. Kelly literally "married" underrage Aaliyah so I don't know how it he got a pass in the 1st place 2
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