celeb news Ariana stands in her conviction: "Why do you care so much whose d*ck I ride?"

[Raiden]

  

4 hours ago, cityfolk said:

1. dont care either way, a bunch of the people that ATRL stans are completely immoral weirdos

2. they were both getting divorced when they got together

3. he was the one who left his family (I don't like him, FWIW). why isn't the blame on him?

4. nothing said in this thread is stopping the song from smashing

 

 

 

 

I doubt there's a lot of demand for homewreaker pride anthems.

Edited January 12 by Raiden

[Peak Now]

Love how people only pull the "we don't know them personally!!! why are you so invested in some MPG's personal life anyway???" card when it suits them and never elsewhere

 

I do find 99% percent of all "this song is morally reprehensible so if you stream it you literally support bad stuff" arguments stupid but... please 

Edited January 12 by AndThenTheCocaine

[Bey'Knight]

For the same reason she gets paid millions to peddle vogue products to the masses

[SoSickOfThatSOL]

9 hours ago, Communion said:

The framing that Ariana somehow owed this woman

Didn’t she owned her and ounce of respect at least?  A lot of you should really take off your stan glasses and touch some ******* grass. Hope you don’t ever get cheated on.

 

Listened the song, didn’t like it and I won’t be replaying it.

[MatiRod]

I have to be honest, I kind of live

 

yes, and? 

Edited January 13 by MatiRod

[Zendayababes]

17 hours ago, Lagerfeld said:

 

 

 

OK but this is HAUNTING. she genuinely looks emaciated. Karma/guilty conscience?

[Marla Singer]

She doesn't have a soul.

[Chris]

This thread.

 

[ICLDXU4HS]

1 hour ago, Marla Singer said:

She doesn't have a soul.

This is true.

[Communion]

18 hours ago, Phantom said:

Maybe this is a bit parasocial of me but from the limited amount of Ari BTS I've seen + her older music that I liked (which is not a matter of genre – I like her current RnB mostly, because it is often very lyrically & melodically pretty) she's come across as such a sweet, pleasant girl... 

 

Which always makes me dislike these bad *****/cunty lyric moments she has. It seems so unnatural to me, but of course, this is probably just me. She obv can be both sweet and a diva for instance, but stuff like BUWYBIB, and this ;p stfu I can ride any dick I want type moment seem so insincere to me – meant to be quoted on IG captions by 20-somethings first and foremost. 

 

But again, probably me being parasocial. She can do whatever she likes ofc but I don't think any public figure should expect to be celebrated for homewrecking. It's one thing that promiscuity is looked at differently when it comes to men, that's a double standard got sure. But this is different. 

This is actually an interesting discussion to have, especially when presented in good faith like you've done (and not like how some deranged users act).

 

I actually agree that BUWYGIB, despite being a bop, is rotted, though I think it's rotted because I feel it betrays the kind of emotional intelligence she's shown to be capable of as both a person and artist. That it incapsulates this moment of someone being black-pilled and entering this kind of 'villain' mentality.

 

But in comparison, so much of her lyricism is rooted in a positivity and grace despite not being a Swift-like songwriter capable of sonnets. That songs like No Tears Left To Cry, Thank U Next, and Ghostin have this shared element of articulating unbelievably complex emotional trauma in a simple way. Ghostin is her de-centering herself from the trauma of losing her ex-boyfriend and asking her current boyfriend to forgive her for the toll her trauma brings onto their relationship. "I know it hurts you when you hear me cry again over him".

 

So much of how she approaches the world - even if just in her persona - is built around this kind of grace.

 

And that pushes me to see the more biting moments of "yes, and?" in a light closer to NTLTC or TUN than BUWYGIB. That it's again this grace she displays while trying to navigate things that would reasonably upset anyone (like the growing speculation by people that she has an ED). "Don't comment on my body, do not reply" is not some amazing songwriting and is a bit on the nose as a pop lyric, but packs a punch when presented in the self-assured and disarming way she delivers it.

 

As a non-spiritual person, the ~crystal magical aura~ stuff just comes off as harmless silliness to me, though I get how it can appear self-aggrandizing. I've always seen it just as her being someone who, despite her immense privilege, has objectively experienced some horribly unfair pain and trauma and trying to reconcile it. (Part of my discomfort with some of her haters is that it seems they know she's a sympathetic character and almost openly resent her and argue said sympathy is unearned.)

 

She often referenced a lot of the same language about intention and purpose in the weeks following Mac's death when people were blaming her for his overdose and death.

 

Hearing someone sing "I get everything I want cause I attract it" can definitely appear braggadocios, but remembering what (or more-so who) "take my pen and write some love letters to heaven" is actually referencing always puts that affirmation back in context for me. That's the kind of light a lot of fans, I think, are consuming and understanding "yes, and?" under.

Edited January 13 by Communion

[burninredhot]

11 hours ago, LOTF said:

Not swifties telling Ariana to go to therapy 

The call is coming from inside the house

two things can be true at the same time 

[brraap]

The Arianatrons doing bits in here to justify their fav wrecking the home of a newborn baby 

 

It’s a no from me 

[Bussea]

did yall read all that? ^

[Material Girl]

the paragraphs in here are so weird

 

meanwhile no one who isnt an extremely online stan gives af, and yall in here acting like she murdered someone

[Kety]

She’s ugly inside out. Disgusting living thing tbh

[foundwonderland]

19 hours ago, Zendayababes said:

OK but this is HAUNTING. she genuinely looks emaciated. Karma/guilty conscience?

People don't want to admit it but she 100% has an eating disorder and it's so obvious. Bring this up though and you'll have 48908409 people in your mentions going on about how it's completely normal to look that skinny, how Ariana is vegan and therefore doesn't eat a lot of calories and blah blah. 

 

She just does not look healthy. If you look at her eyes you can see the affects of starvation. People are blaming her face on just the procedures and plastic surgeries but it's not just that. 

[Bosque]

On 1/12/2024 at 3:44 PM, wxvii said:

Damn. Y’all really acting like y’all care about that child and that guy’s ex-wife for some quick D-tier drags..  Couldn’t be me, but glad she has y’all talking & streaming

 

Who's acting like they care about them personally? Obviously none of us know either the wife or the child, but we're still capable of assessing that cheating on your husband with a married man who just had a child is morally reprehensible? If your fave murdered a person would you say "omg y'all didn't even know the murder victim, how dare you pretend like you care"?  

[foundwonderland]

If Taylor did cheat on her husband and broke a family I definitely wouldn't be supporting it or acting like it was okay for her to do so lol. 

 

But here and on twitter you see Ariana Stans unironically trying to justify it and make up lies. The wife LITERALLY exposed Ariana as a home wrecker to the media. Like it's a proven fact that came straight from her mouth and you have these naive 16 year olds going "it was reported they both were already divorced!!!" yeah by who dummies? Ariana's PR team! Not even the fake woke liberal feminist take, "WhY BlAme ThE MiStrEsS?" route can be taken here I mean obviously Ethan should be blamed like a hideous beast that he is but so should Ariana because she's still a grown woman and therefore should have the decency to not go after married men. And a TRUE man wouldn't be seduced by any woman other than his wife not even a popstar. Truth is they're both trash people. Homegirl really is wrecking her career for a short SpongeBob lol. 

[Gorjesspazze9]

The paragraphs 

it’s just a song

[Lille]

She is a scumbag, but people on the other side continuously dragging her also do too much.

[Maroonx]

The funniest thing is that despite all this ATRL negativity on Ariana's personal life, it still has not affected her comeback and the song clearly smashed.

 

It's exactly what I said in another topic "if you like her, you will support her no matter what... if you hate her, you will continue to hate her" c'est la vie, idk what else to say girls x

 

[Shelter]

On 1/12/2024 at 8:39 PM, LOTF said:

Not swifties telling Ariana to go to therapy 

The call is coming from inside the house

[Shelter]

On 1/13/2024 at 8:16 PM, foundwonderland said:

If Taylor did cheat on her husband and broke a family I definitely wouldn't be supporting it or acting like it was okay for her to do so lol. 

 

But here and on twitter you see Ariana Stans unironically trying to justify it and make up lies. The wife LITERALLY exposed Ariana as a home wrecker to the media. Like it's a proven fact that came straight from her mouth and you have these naive 16 year olds going "it was reported they both were already divorced!!!" yeah by who dummies? Ariana's PR team! Not even the fake woke liberal feminist take, "WhY BlAme ThE MiStrEsS?" route can be taken here I mean obviously Ethan should be blamed like a hideous beast that he is but so should Ariana because she's still a grown woman and therefore should have the decency to not go after married men. And a TRUE man wouldn't be seduced by any woman other than his wife not even a popstar. Truth is they're both trash people. Homegirl really is wrecking her career for a short SpongeBob lol. 

Didn’t Taylor date teens still in high school. I mean ... 

 

Both are a mess. Lbr 

[Lady Claire]

On 1/12/2024 at 5:04 AM, Jay07 said:

She's right. It's her business and I'm not here to make moral judgements on the lives of popstars. 

This. I don't really give af

[Bubble Tea]

The main point in this debacle will always simply be he was the one that was married and so all blame put on ending / ruining / troubling his marriage is entirely on him.

 

Every day I could cheat on my partner with someone and if I did, it would be entirely my fault, not whatever hussy I decide to get with. If you are married, only the married couple have made solemn vows. 

 

Y'all are implicating Ariana purely out of fickle stan-war / gossipy reasons, and out of misogyny. "She seduced him!" A man would never be treated the same.