celeb news Lil Nas X about Lady Gaga and Madonna: “with all due respect idgaf what they did”

[Sheep]

48 minutes ago, mrpartyrocker said:

Again, turning this into a “race” conversation. The only one that diminishes and ignores someone’s struggles is you, considering you refer to 2 iconic females in the pop culture and lgbt+ community as “white sacred cows”. No one said Lil Nas did not push the boundaries or whatever. I don’t hate gay artists and if anything, I said myself that I was rooting for him up until this era. What he is doing now is nothing extraordinary  and does not push any boundaries. It’s just a call for attention, replicating what he’s done 4 years ago. You can do it once, but do it twice and you look like a clown. Listened to the song in full and it has nothing to do with the actual title of the song, he just added J Christ for the sake of attention and controversy. 

The "shocking" and "blasphemous" part of Judas and LAP were the depictions of Jesus as a POC. Race was always a part of this conversation. I also don't **** with the way you and half the other posters in this thread pretending not to see the blatant racism of white pop stars with huge teams and record labels being called substantive artists with groundbreaking work whereas LNX who has the exact same is somehow vapid, uninformed, or attention seeking for using the same pr strategies. Maybe try to see a different perspective before asserting your own as the definitive take. White sacred cows indeed.

Edited January 11 by Sheep

[PoisonedIvy]

12 minutes ago, Titanbaddie said:

The idea that just because somebody did something well and first, that it somehow opens doors for everyone after them including people who don't share the same amount of privilege as them is actually funny to me because everyone knows that's not how the world works.

 

When a white man lands on the moon, It means that doors have been opened for white men not women and people of color. 

 

Lil Nas X is a black gay rapper who grew up in black communities that had the black church and he was raised with black toxic masculinity which is unique to his experience and relationship with religion. If he says Gaga and Madonna are not part of his refences when he thinks of exploring religion through art, i believe him because when he goes to the Breakfast Club or Ebro of any other urban platform and has to defend his portrayal of religious imagery, it won't be Like A Prayer of Judas that's referenced by the community interrogating and discussing his work. None of that will matter to the community he comes from and the people he makes music for.

 

Now whether or not the work he does is good, is a completely different conversation. 

Preach  

[Soda Pop Queen]

44 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

They won’t get what you’re saying. Don’t waste your time 

Yea, I know. I tend to stay out of certain threads because a lot of conversation is beyond the scope of this place but I had to pop in here and say something. They been microaggressive with him for a minute so I just knew him "coming for" giants like Madonna and Gaga would rile them all the way up. 

 

43 minutes ago, Titanbaddie said:

The idea that just because somebody did something well and first, that it somehow opens doors for everyone after them including people who don't share the same amount of privilege as them is actually funny to me because everyone knows that's not how the world works.

 

When a white man lands on the moon, It means that doors have been opened for white men not women and people of color. 

 

Lil Nas X is a black gay rapper who grew up in black communities that had the black church and he was raised with black toxic masculinity which is unique to his experience and relationship with religion. If he says Gaga and Madonna are not part of his references when he thinks of exploring religion through art, i believe him because when he goes to the Breakfast Club or Ebro of any other urban platform and has to defend his portrayal of religious imagery, it won't be Like A Prayer of Judas that's referenced by the community interrogating and discussing his work. None of that will matter to the community he comes from and the people he makes music for.

 

Now whether or not the work he does is good, is a completely different conversation. 

MTE.

Edited January 11 by Soda Pop Queen

[SIDE2SIDE]

13 hours ago, justin. said:

His third era in the span of 5 years. This is not proof that he's going to have any lasting impact.

 

*insert Beyonce quick little singles quote*

5 years is a brief career????

[Great808]

I knew it was a matter of time before ppm threw the race card all over the place embarrassing!

 

It really is just as simple as Gaga and Madonna seemed to know and really understand how they were connection it to their videos where as Nas is just using it as a shock factor and knows nothing about it. I hope he flops hardcore 

 

Also he knew better than to acknowledge Nicki in his reply lmfaooooo

[PoisonedIvy]

7 minutes ago, Soda Pop Queen said:

Yea, I know. I tend to stay out of certain threads because a lot of conversation is beyond the scope of this place but I had to pop in here and say something. They been microaggressive with him for a minute so I just knew him being "coming for" giants like Madonna and Gaga would rile them all the way up. 

 

MTE.

I get it, I tried to do my part a little earlier in here and I realized quickly they don’t tolerate disrespect to their white savior.

[PoisonedIvy]

Just now, Great808 said:

I knew it was a matter of time before ppm threw the race card all over the place embarrassing!

 

It really is just as simple as Gaga and Madonna seemed to know and really understand how they were connection it to their videos where as Nas is just using it as a shock factor and knows nothing about it. I hope he flops hardcore 

 

Also he knew better than to acknowledge Nicki in his reply lmfaooooo

How can you say he “knows nothing about it” when it’s literally the religion he was raised in that subsequently tormented and oppressed him. He has more merit to criticize the institution than they do if you ask me. But I digress.

[Great808]

There is almost no way you can spin this to use Madonna and Gaga’s race as a drag down towards them it’s not like there were Black female artists doing what they were doing and they happened to be the ones to get the credit because they were White, they were the only ones doing it and they just happened to be White. 

[SIDE2SIDE]

9 hours ago, _Fey said:

Gays rewriting history acting like Judas was an moment is so funny to me. The song charted for 3 weeks and the single was replaced by Edge of Glory a month later. Thank god Nas isn't looking to it for inspiration. He should want to make a splash and also succeed.

lmaooo I was gon sayyyyyy I remember that song flopping lol

[PoisonedIvy]

5 minutes ago, Great808 said:

There is almost no way you can spin this to use Madonna and Gaga’s race as a drag down towards them it’s not like there were Black female artists doing what they were doing and they happened to be the ones to get the credit because they were White, they were the only ones doing it and they just happened to be White. 

Praise be our white saviors! 

 

/s

 

Sylvester was doing it but queer black people weren’t gonna get that level of mainstream attention. That’s why the uplifting of queer POC is more important than retroactively prioritizing the validation of white women. 

[Album Leak]

Both Madonna and Gaga also got similar backlash to Lil Nas X for essentially being attention-seeking satanic harlots who incite controversy for controversies sake, and they have had to work extremely hard to have their art and craft be respected in hindsight despite the backlash and criticism. So let's not pretend like Madonna and Gaga had it easy, both have been ridiculed and torn apart relentlessly by the GP and the media, and some of it has followed them throughout their careers. They took risks and whether they paid off can be debated on Gaga's case, for Madonna, LAP is definitely an iconic moment. We'll see if it pays off for Lil Nas X.

Edited January 11 by Album Leak

[Raptus]

1 hour ago, Sheep said:

The "shocking" and "blasphemous" part of Judas and LAP were the depictions of Jesus as a POC. Race was always a part of this conversation. I also don't **** with the way you and half the other posters in this thread pretending not to see the blatant racism of white pop stars with huge teams and record labels being called substantive artists with groundbreaking work whereas LNX who has the exact same is somehow vapid, uninformed, or attention seeking for using the same pr strategies. Maybe try to see a different perspective before asserting your own as the definitive take. White sacred cows indeed.

So why is he stealing from smaller black artists? (FKA Twigs)

[Raver]

Saving judgement until the single/video is out. The snippet gave me nothing related to the religious imagery but again I’m going to wait until the single is out to fully judge. So much controversy on here for this single. It better be good 👀

[DanyelP23]

I’m very curious about how he’s gonna do on streaming and Billboard overall.

 

His engagements for tweets that were “smart”/“shady” clapbacks used to easily give him 50-100k likes per tweet in the montero era. Compared to know… he’s doing way lees on that front

 

[descg]

The original Nas (straight rapper) has done this too by the way:

 

 

[dabunique]

Look as an ancient gay Madonna stan I have no issues for what he said 

 

da issue I do have is people trying to use LAP as an excuse as to why they don’t understand why people consider it art and what Nas X is facing backlash as if mom didn’t get excommunicated on da spot 😂 

 

ur fave wants to use religious imagery to mock da church (and deservingly so) so suck it up 

 

u can’t be a fan of someone who shocks da GP and expect there to be no backlash 

[Lover]

idg the gaga part.

[readytowind]

He just a flop. Sorry 

[GlamSlam]

DGAF what they did,while ripping them off at the same time.

He was also up Madonna's a*s during a Madame X show.

 

and didn't he want to record a song with LG for his album?

 

What an annoying little ****.

 

Edited January 11 by GlamSlam

[readytowind]

26 minutes ago, GlamSlam said:

DGAF what they did, while ripping them off at the same time.

He was also up Madonna's a*s during a Madame X show.

 

and didn't he want to record a song with LG for his album?

 

What an annoying little ****.

 

Yeah such a little petty rat. 

Already flop.

[Keeandga]

Idc either way but if this similar situation happened and turned on him and he wants his credit but there like “idgaf about what LNX did”.  

[AcidPrince]

He is right. 

[superben]

23 hours ago, Kayseri Mantisi said:

Notice how he didn't say he dgaf about Nicki even though she is on the original quote 

Because he really dgaf about her. Not even one tiny bit enough to mention her  

[Vermillion]

some of the vigorous Lil Nas X defenses I’m seeing here might have more firm ground to stand on if he wasn’t praising her prior. The hypocrisy is just really thick.

[IsidoraMarí]

2 hours ago, Keeandga said:

Idc either way but if this similar situation happened and turned on him and he wants his credit but there like “idgaf about what LNX did”.  

Why would he want credit for another artists work? It's not like he made Born This Way and tried to act like it wasn't a rip off of Express Yourself. His music isn't similar in anyway to Gaga and Madonna.