Asscatchem Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 We are living in Taylor's peak and the hype after the Eras Tour is unprecedented and monumental. Do you think TS11 has a chance to clear 3M+ domestically first-week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchanted0 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 No. Did you know 25 did like 1.5M copies on iTunes alone? With streaming it’s simply impossible. No one can do that kind of number now even Adele herself 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonicap Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) No, if you don't put an album on streaming nowadays most people will show you the middle finger, they won't buy digital copies. 25 was also a perfect storm in the sense that it followed the biggest album of the century and with a 4 year gap. We will never see anything like that again. At least not from someone that already has 10 albums out and the next one is just another one. Even if it's Taylor Swift. Edited January 3 by Bonicap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsay Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I don’t think Adele’s record will ever be broken 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
favorite crime Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 No, 1989TV was probably pretty close to her max physical sales since fans bought it like a new album. The only difference will be that TS11 will have a lot more streaming. If all things go well it might cross 2mil but that's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asscatchem Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, enchanted0 said: No. Did you know 25 did like 1.5M copies on iTunes alone? With streaming it’s simply impossible. No one can do that kind of number now even Adele herself 2 kpop groups did it last year if we consider other countries and 1989 almost cleared 2M and it was just a rerecording 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Asscatchem said: 2 kpop groups did it last year if we consider other countries and 1989 almost cleared 2M and it was just a rerecording "Almost" being a whole 350k unit away though. She'd need to double that to beat 25's first week. This is not happening, not in the current state of the industry (or ever, unless pure sales see a massive surge at some point). Edited January 3 by Klein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asscatchem Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, Klein said: "Almost" being a whole 350k unit away though. She'd need to double that to beat 25's first week. This is not happening, not in the current state of the industry (or ever, unless pure sales see a massive surge at some point). Chances are low, but it's not impossible. I think she has a good chance to clear at least 2M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idkwiam Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I think that the upper limit is 2.5m units. 3.3m units first week in 2024/25 is unreachable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peroxide Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) Pre-Order for (at least) 4 months... 6 Vinyl Variants - Different Covers/Vinyl Colours/Different Songs added to each variant And the big one... Exclusive Access Code to the next Taylor show in your your state... And idk I think she might be able to pull it off. Edited January 3 by Peroxide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 12 minutes ago, Asscatchem said: Chances are low, but it's not impossible. I think she has a good chance to clear at least 2M. Clearing 2M is already sky high expectations in my opinion. But even if she did that, it's still 1.3M away from 3.3M. It is impossible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasix Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Off of announcement of pregnancy and hiatus then maybe. Otherwise I don’t see how it gets more than 2.5m. Homestly though it’s probably more preferable to space out the shipping of the pre orders and get like 20 week #1 than shipping it all in 1 go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonapova Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasix Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 26 minutes ago, favorite crime said: No, 1989TV was probably pretty close to her max physical sales since fans bought it like a new album. The only difference will be that TS11 will have a lot more streaming. If all things go well it might cross 2mil but that's it 1989tv is not the peak for physical actually, she didn’t even do any signed CDs which midnights had like 200k copies of. Not to mention billboard has actually allowed bundling now so im sire ts11 would be higher, though it’s still not gonna be 3m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 The chance is extremely low, but not impossible. She’d have to do more than double of Midnights, but her power has grown to ridiculous levels even since then, and even since 1989TV. I don’t think the TV’s are “equal” to her new studio albums at all, so it’ll be very interesting to see how high she can go now. But most likely, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasix Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 28 minutes ago, Asscatchem said: 2 kpop groups did it last year if we consider other countries and 1989 almost cleared 2M and it was just a rerecording That’s completely different though. Japan and Korea’s culture are still into buying physicals that’s why they can do it there but nowhere else. 1989tv’s first week worldwide is actually 3.5M units which is actually insane, but thats meaningless since it’s worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchanted0 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 35 minutes ago, Asscatchem said: 2 kpop groups did it last year if we consider other countries and 1989 almost cleared 2M and it was just a rerecording Did they sell 3M copies in the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonicap Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 27 minutes ago, Peroxide said: Pre-Order for (at least) 4 months... 6 Vinyl Variants - Different Covers/Vinyl Colours/Different Songs added to each variant And the big one... Exclusive Access Code to the next Taylor show in your your state... And idk I think she might be able to pull it off. I'm pretty sure this is considered a bundle and this is how a lot of artists with big touring power were inflating their first week sales a decade ago. Not allowed anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chartman Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 The biggest sales from streaming units are from Drake like 600k. The second biggest debut of all time physical is No Strings Attached with 2.5M sales. Combining these two, it‘s not even enough to beat Adele. So no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 It's impossible. The streaming era doesn't accumulate units like this. No one will ever touch those numbers again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 No. 2M is the ceiling for TS11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watson! Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 well. if she announced that's her last album and release 20 variants, is possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrgVisual Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Yes when she releases 20 different variations you need to purchase all of them to complete a cake or something 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peroxide Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Bonicap said: I'm pretty sure this is considered a bundle and this is how a lot of artists with big touring power were inflating their first week sales a decade ago. Not allowed anymore. Oh I assumed an access code would have been a work-around... or perhaps some other mechanism to help you secure tickets? Without that, yeah I don't see 3M happening... maybe 2.5 if she goes hardcore capitalist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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