fan base K-Pop Thread: The Year 2024

[newaespa]

2 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said:

I can name like 10 groups who have similar chart runs  who is this

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

18 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

Lesserafim is the most commercial active Kpop group atp.

 

The project is run by Bang PD, a businessman, and it shows. There is little originality, creativity or subtlety that goes into anything they do and everything feels too on the nose. Buy out popular trainees, bring in expensive famous foreign producers, buy the same western demos through Scooter Braun, recycle the same concept outfits and "hot girl dancing" formula again and again, push 1 million remixes, hammer 1 million tiktoks, release half-baked albums, buy promotion with usual big names in the industry, variety shows / influencers / youtubers, push more promotion with the Hybe Family program... Quantity over quality.

 

It's not bad, but it's a bit souless. 

Another day, another wickedly salty hot take from Ms. genicantstophypeboy

 

[Mitsuki]

3 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

My life is so hard

 

Maybe It's you jinxing, Oprah

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

1 minute ago, Mitsuki said:

Felix has been inactive for some time since he was doing voluntary work in Laos, but he and Hyunjin are usually very active indeed. 

Chan has been surprisingly active recently, updating about his whole Australia trip. 

Chan is still perpetually on Bubble (or whatever the app is called now) tryna convince stans that he's their boyfriend

 

[Mitsuki]

21 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

Lesserafim is the most commercial active Kpop group atp.

 

The project is run by Bang PD, a businessman, and it shows. There is little originality, creativity or subtlety that goes into anything they do and everything feels too on the nose. Buy out popular trainees, bring in expensive famous foreign producers, buy the same western demos through Scooter Braun, recycle the same concept outfits and "hot girl dancing" formula again and again, push 1 million remixes, hammer 1 million tiktoks, release half-baked albums, buy promotion with usual big names in the industry, variety shows / influencers / youtubers, push more promotion with the Hybe Family program... Quantity over quality.

 

It's not bad, but it's a bit souless. 

It could be a copypasta

 

[Butters]

9 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

Lesserafim is the most commercial active Kpop group atp.

whatever that means

 

9 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

 

The project is run by Bang PD, a businessman, and it shows.

 

starting off with a very astute exposition 

 

9 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

There is little originality, creativity or subtlety that goes into anything they do and everything feels too on the nose.

with that monstrosity of a username

 

9 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

"hot girl dancing" formula 

no comment

 

9 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

 

It's not bad, but it's a bit souless. 

if theres anyone that needs to work on subtlety its you with this post

[Mitsuki]

Just now, Save-Me-Oprah said:

Chan is still perpetually on Bubble (or whatever the app is called now) tryna convince stans that he's their boyfriend

 

He's really not that active on bbl usually. Before he started updating about Australia, he was almost a month without posting there. 

[Chemist]

45 minutes ago, Adama said:

You’re focusing on Riize when the big problem is how even a digimon like IU can’t even get 300k uls and the #2 barely getting 200k  

 

it’s tragic 

It's been like that for a while. Better focus on the positions than the actual #'s 

[illia]

1 hour ago, hallucinate said:

it’s just too good

Nile Rodgers oppa you will always be famous

 

[illia]

1 hour ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

Lesserafim is the most commercial active Kpop group atp.

It's not bad, but it's a bit souless. 

Girl this is kpop, it's always been soulless, starting with English demos, overrehearsed robotic choreos and members not being allowed to write music, to scandals like god forbid a 30 year old man with dіck and balls dares to hold hands with a woman  You just described the entire industry so idk why Le Sserafim are the only ones under the attack

Edited February 12, 2024 by illia

[Odette Violet]

 

 

bring back the aes and kwangya 

 

1 hour ago, Reginald said:

aespa Drama serving longevity  I have milked that song for all its worth 

I'm ready for the next era 

 

 we all do

 

 

[geniecantstophypeboy]

30 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

It could be a copypasta

 

Am I wrong, though? 

 

 

Unforgiven teasers were the biggest whiplash in recent times in Kpop and a clear example of overcompensating for the mid release with expensive marketing and style over substance.

Other labels would have put more thought, spent more time and money on the album and comeback itself and less on the teasers.

[getinthezone]

 

 

we need this LSFM 

 

[katyberry]

14 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

bring back the aes and kwangya 

 

The way I am literally mourning the loss of the aes and everything! I hate SM 3.0 

[geniecantstophypeboy]

11 minutes ago, illia said:

Girl this is kpop, it's always been soulless, starting with English demos, overrehearsed robotic choreos and members not being allowed to write music, to scandals like god forbid a 30 year old man with dіck and balls dares to hold hands with a woman  You just described the entire industry so idk why Le Sserafim are the only ones under the attack

I think many Kpop groups generally strike a good balance between desire for commercial success and creative expression. Aespa have that SM experimental sound and image, Ive have a very strong musical identity, GIdle and Stray Kids mix spectacle and more personal input/message, Newjeans also have a very strong musical identity and do a lot of work with indie / non Kpop / non mainstream 3rd parties. That's alongside the usual collaboration with big brands and other promotional tactics. For Lesserafin, the balance leans heavily toward the latter. They don't have a creative identity as much. Their unforgiven album was also the weakest album among all the artists I mentioned here.

[illia]

5 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

I think many Kpop groups generally strike a good balance between desire for commercial success and creative expression. Aespa have that SM experimental sound and image, Ive have a very strong musical identity, GIdle and Stray Kids mix spectacle and more personal input/message, Newjeans also have a very strong musical identity and do a lot of work with indie / non Kpop / non mainstream 3rd parties. That's alongside the usual collaboration with big brands and other promotional tactics. For Lesserafin, the balance leans heavily toward the latter. They don't have a creative identity as much. Their unforgiven album was also the weakest album among all the artists I mentioned here.

What musical identity do IVE have that makes them more *creative* than LSRFM?

 

[Dialamba]

1 minute ago, illia said:

What musical identity do IVE have that makes them more *creative* than LSRFM?

 

And yeah you aren’t gonna come for IVE 

 

Edited February 12, 2024 by Dialamba

[oceans]

its like they saw the organic success of eve psyche and instead of carving their own sound with that, they just stole a nugu demo 

[ChatshireCat]

the way swan song is gonna eclipse easy. another eve vs unforgiven moment

 

[oceans]

also, argentina just dropped their own kpop group

 

[illia]

2 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

And yeah you aren’t gonna come for IVE 

 

I’m not, I like some of their music, but pretending that their “creative identity” (which is Western demos and rejects) is stronger than LSRFM’s (which is also Western demos and rejects) is kinda funny

 

They both are very similar in that regard actually

 

[montacelo]

2 hours ago, Chemist said:

 

What is RIIZE doing in the top 5?

 

The most suprising thing for me is there are 3 SM songs in the top 10

 

 

 

Unforgiven is NOT a good song. So the LSFM girlies are 2/3 in terms of title tracks.  Sorry 

[sunny]

17 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

I think many Kpop groups generally strike a good balance between desire for commercial success and creative expression. Aespa have that SM experimental sound and image, Ive have a very strong musical identity, GIdle and Stray Kids mix spectacle and more personal input/message, Newjeans also have a very strong musical identity and do a lot of work with indie / non Kpop / non mainstream 3rd parties. That's alongside the usual collaboration with big brands and other promotional tactics. For Lesserafin, the balance leans heavily toward the latter. They don't have a creative identity as much. Their unforgiven album was also the weakest album among all the artists I mentioned here.

God stop talking its embarassing

[geniecantstophypeboy]

7 minutes ago, illia said:

What musical identity do IVE have that makes them more *creative* than LSRFM?

 

Ive have a lot of bops with beautiful melodies and generally release cohesive albums. Their producers are working hard.

Lesserafim show hints of reggaeton inspired music but that stops here. Instead of committing and exploring a particular sound, they take some shortcuts and throw random western demos in there with some remixes and call it an album.

 

[Xalric]

It's true that LE SSERAFIM is very business and success focus, bus so is IVE (who is exactly like LSRFM) and STAYC (who is a group made by the ego of producers thinking they have the formula to create hit songs with no real substance).