fan base K-Pop Thread: Taeyeon Sick of SM, Blasts Their Mismanagement

[Pluto6]

15 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

SNSD Started Photocards in Korea, Started Fancams (Yuri in 2010), Inveted the term Visual Center(YoonA in 2009), Started The Hallyu Wave YouTube MV's having the first Kpop video to hit 100 Million(Gee) and the 2nd viral Dance craze in Kpop behind WG Tell Me dance. Ending up becoming even bigger phenomenon then any wonder girls or 2NE1 single. Thier impact  also the first Million Seller Girl group in Kpop history.

these are all documented facts and have made news publication headlines in Korea since 2009… and they are still respected for it today as The Leaders of Hallyu and The Nations Girl Group. A title the citizens of South Korea still label them in 2024

 

 

[Chemist]

1 hour ago, Gaia said:

A Korean group a few days old charting significantly higher on Spotify  global than in Korea  

 

Eternium maybe made some points about HYBE's Spotify payola and autoplay/discovery. 
 

Super viral songs take weeks to climb Spotify and this song does it in a matter of 2 days. Serving Baemon YouTube views

 

 

U right now

[Pluto6]

1 hour ago, Gaia said:

Eternium maybe made some points 

 

 

You already lost the argument here

[OrgVisual]

1 hour ago, Mitsuki said:

EXO top 10 at IFPI Pure Sales Chart 

 

 

EXO??

 

Where is NJ and aespa, didn't they sell more than IVE? 

 

And I remember some losers were saying SM sales are fake because NCT never made it to IFPI. What's now?

 

[Zuko]

1 hour ago, Mitsuki said:

EXO top 10 at IFPI Pure Sales Chart 

 

 

The chart has become an inkigayo line up 

 

the amount of album versions could be reduced to max 4, but I think even Taylor and other western celebs would be against that

[Gaia]

7 minutes ago, Chemist said:

 

 

U right now

Yeah, I'm very angry. Seething even. Just for pointing out how the same company continues to exhibit really strange/abnormal success. 
 

The audio has 47k videos on TikTok, the song is 3 days old, the group is unknown, but it's at 2.5M daily Spotify streams?  
 

But you were/are a BTS Stan so I guess I shouldn't expect common sense

[Dialamba]

IVE charting on IPFI 3 charts. Iktr 
 

 

[OrgVisual]

54 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said:

 

Why are Haerin and Hyein in here? 

[Adama]

1 hour ago, Mitsuki said:

EXO top 10 at IFPI Pure Sales Chart 

 

 

Hagxo and Local IVE the only kpop gg again . 
 

But is it me or they're really a huge decline in sales this year? NCT Dream first week sales is divided by 2 

[Adama]

4 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

IVE charting on IPFI 3 charts. Iktr 
 

 

Successful albums confirmed by IFPI, and now a successful tour. We love when everything match !

 

Now we needs a real distribution in the US 

Edited March 28 by Adama

[Mitsuki]

7 minutes ago, Zuko said:

The chart has become an inkigayo line up 

 

the amount of album versions could be reduced to max 4, but I think even Taylor and other western celebs would be against that

It's better when you see the whole Top 20

 

19/20 are K-pop albums 

 

1 SEVENTEEN FML 6.4m

2 Stray Kids 5-STAR 5.3m

3 NCT DREAM ISTJ 4.6m

4 SEVENTEEN SEVENTEENTH HEAVEN 4.5m

5 Stray Kids ROCK-STAR 4.2m
6 Taylor Swift 1989 (Taylor's Version) 2.8m

7 Jung Kook GOLDEN 2.7m

8 EXO EXIST 2.3m

9 IVE I've MINE 2.2m

10 V Layover 2.2m
11 ZEROBASEONE YOUTH IN THE SHADE 2.2m

12 aespa MY WORLD 2.1m

13 TOMORROW X TOGETHER The Name Chapter : FREEFALL 2.0m

14 (G)I-DLE I feel 2.0m

15 NCT 127 Fact Check 1.9m

16 ENHYPEN DARK BLOOD 1.7m

17 IVE I've IVE 1.7m

18 Jimin FACE 1.7m

19 ENHYPEN ORANGE BLOOD 1.7m

20 aespa Drama 1.5m

[hallucinate]

3 minutes ago, Adama said:

Hagxo and Local IVE the only kpop gg again . 
 

But is it me or they're really a huge decline in sales this year? NCT Dream first week sales is divided by 2 

aren't there some problems with mass buying in china? LSRF and aespa sold less with their recent comebacks as well

 

personally i think it's for the best cause the sales were getting ridiculous

i'm sure mother earth thinks the same

[Mitsuki]

5 minutes ago, Adama said:

Hagxo and Local IVE the only kpop gg again . 
 

But is it me or they're really a huge decline in sales this year? NCT Dream first week sales is divided by 2 

EXO #8 best selling album globally (according to IFPI), 2nd SM album and, on top of that, a viral hit in 2023, 11 years into their career. They just can't stop winning 

[Mitsuki]

Get Up and Temptation probably blocked due to their length 

[OrgVisual]

3 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

It's better when you see the whole Top 20

 

19/20 are K-pop albums 

 

1 SEVENTEEN FML 6.4m

2 Stray Kids 5-STAR 5.3m

3 NCT DREAM ISTJ 4.6m

4 SEVENTEEN SEVENTEENTH HEAVEN 4.5m

5 Stray Kids ROCK-STAR 4.2m
6 Taylor Swift 1989 (Taylor's Version) 2.8m

7 Jung Kook GOLDEN 2.7m

8 EXO EXIST 2.3m

9 IVE I've MINE 2.2m

10 V Layover 2.2m
11 ZEROBASEONE YOUTH IN THE SHADE 2.2m

12 aespa MY WORLD 2.1m

13 TOMORROW X TOGETHER The Name Chapter : FREEFALL 2.0m

14 (G)I-DLE I feel 2.0m

15 NCT 127 Fact Check 1.9m

16 ENHYPEN DARK BLOOD 1.7m

17 IVE I've IVE 1.7m

18 Jimin FACE 1.7m

19 ENHYPEN ORANGE BLOOD 1.7m

20 aespa Drama 1.5m

Where are NJs and LSRF???

 

"I Feel" did like 1.3M on Gaon and 2M here, wtf? That's a huge difference

[Mitsuki]

1 minute ago, OrgVisual said:

Where are NJs and LSRF???

 

"I Feel" did like 1.3M on Gaon and 2M here, wtf? That's a huge difference

NewJeans' Get Up length probably wasn't enough to pass as an EP. Same with TXT's Temptation. 

 

Unforgiven has around 1.4M according to Circle iirc, so maybe, that is what really is and didn't make the cut (1.5M) 

[MonsterNavy]

aespink

 

 

[Adama]

12 hours ago, Panda17 said:

 

Please NO 

 

12 hours ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

Newjeans targeting Japan while everyone else is targeting the US.

Who is right and who is wrong? Who is playing 4d chess while everyone is playing checkers? 

But Outside Aespa, the others gg does a lot of promotions in Japan. It's LSRFM and IVE 2nd market. 

 

12 hours ago, Mitsuki said:

When do we use to know which celebrities are attending MET Gala?

 

Last time Taylor did, she was one of the co-hosts, so I knew months in advance. And in 2014 we found out earlier too, but I don't remember If It was weeks or few days earlier. However, I don't know how It works for other celebrities. 

 

I think this year has some chances for  Felix to go with Nicolas Ghesquière, so I'm interested. 

2/3 days before, his fansites will know. But remember brands paid for their table, it's a event mostly focused on the US/UK celebrities and LV have a lot of ambassadors so not everyone can go. 

 

11 hours ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

In the US, they have done Lollapalooza, Billboard Women Music awards and New Year Eve, but no official promotion. No english release, no interview, no tv show, no collaboration.  I'm not even sure if they spent more than a few days in the US yet.

The same can be applied with IVE, who only performed at KCON LA. At least NJ albums are distributed there . 

[Panda17]

 

[40_L3VE]

13 minutes ago, Adama said:

Hagxo and Local IVE the only kpop gg again . 
 

But is it me or they're really a huge decline in sales this year? NCT Dream first week sales is divided by 2 

 

Dream had the biggest first day sales of their career...

 

Don't their numbers usually get a massive bump during the week when the shipments are counted?

[Mitsuki]

1 minute ago, Adama said:

2/3 days before, his fansites will know. But remember brands paid for their table, it's a event mostly focused on the US/UK celebrities and LV have a lot of ambassadors so not everyone can go

True, but Felix has a close relationship with Nicolas Ghesquière (the reason why he was at PFW Louis Vuitton runway) and It's easier to go when you have connections with brand's stylists/creative directors. That's why there's s chance for him imo. 

[MonsterNavy]

the payola and autoplay is INSANE

 

atp they're going to be bigger than newjeans + lsrfm combine  

 

 

[fais_2311]

13 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

It's better when you see the whole Top 20

 

19/20 are K-pop albums 

 

1 SEVENTEEN FML 6.4m

2 Stray Kids 5-STAR 5.3m

3 NCT DREAM ISTJ 4.6m

4 SEVENTEEN SEVENTEENTH HEAVEN 4.5m

5 Stray Kids ROCK-STAR 4.2m
6 Taylor Swift 1989 (Taylor's Version) 2.8m

7 Jung Kook GOLDEN 2.7m

8 EXO EXIST 2.3m

9 IVE I've MINE 2.2m

10 V Layover 2.2m
11 ZEROBASEONE YOUTH IN THE SHADE 2.2m

12 aespa MY WORLD 2.1m

13 TOMORROW X TOGETHER The Name Chapter : FREEFALL 2.0m

14 (G)I-DLE I feel 2.0m

15 NCT 127 Fact Check 1.9m

16 ENHYPEN DARK BLOOD 1.7m

17 IVE I've IVE 1.7m

18 Jimin FACE 1.7m

19 ENHYPEN ORANGE BLOOD 1.7m

20 aespa Drama 1.5m

When Ava Max unnie release her next album with photocards and has 4 versions, it's over for these kpop acts

[hallucinate]

15 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

EXO #8 best selling album globally (according to IFPI), 2nd SM album and, on top of that, a viral hit in 2023, 11 years into their career. They just can't stop winning 

and they did all this while missing out on the global explosion of kpop during the pandemic + older fanbase in comparison to other kpop acts + multiple long hiatuses + barely any promo + constant sabotage for years

 

them being the literal embodiment of:

Edited March 28 by hallucinate

[jeanie]

what do we think about newjeans next comeback is gonna be like? hope it's more their debut sound but I doubt that, min hee jin and the girls said that they're trying a new sound...