fan base K-Pop Thread: Taeyeon Sick of SM, Blasts Their Mismanagement

[Veiko]

5 hours ago, Bewitched said:

ARMYs are having a meltdown on Reddit, IG, & Twitter 

 

Specially Joseline 

[Veiko]

2 hours ago, TheCal said:

DISBAND!

 

I almost bought some of their albums yesterday but then I decided to not do it and I'll just buy get a guitar next week. 

[Nido]

Also to continue my point. I don't think a lot of Twitter users who throw around words such as "grooming" or "inappropriate" to describe the relationship between the NJ girls and MHJ really a have a clue how things work. Maybe there's been such normalized ideas of idols having little to no connection to their output that someone would think it's "WEIRD" to see a form of mentorship between a creative director and their brainchild of a group.

 

There's a reason why these girls blew up so fast and became so loved by the GP. It's because their every output was greatly executed by a company lead by a woman who CARES about them. You can just tell that they enjoyed performing their songs from day 1, that they have no issues with their art direction, styling, music, management whatsoever, because that's the environment that they were brought up in. It explains why they think so highly of MHJ and raised all the mistreatment concerns about the new management, because she was the one who created the environment that allowed them some humanity before it got taken away. 

 

I don't think MHJ deserves zero blame for whatever conflict that's been happening since this whole thing started but if you reallyyyy look into it, you would see that she only wanted the best for these girls and HYBE was having none of it.

 

 

 

 

[Aria0327]

2 hours ago, BigBangStan said:

Jungkook wasn't hacked 

 

not HYBE attempting censorship and releasing a statement on behalf of him. all this on their biggest's artist's insta account about his dog  

[Xalric]

 

Don't worry people (G)I-DLE won't gain the daesang, I mean Remember when Tomboy was the #1 song on Genie and during the Genie Music Awards, they lost song of the year, Artist of the year and Album of the year. Fun Fact the artist of the year had 0 songs in the top 10 of the Genie Music songs. And all the other nominated had at least one song in it... Yeah I'm talking to you NCT DREAM. Even Taeyeon got snubbed.

[NumbSoul]

 

[Sailor Moon]

their rollin' is coming!

 

the chorus is so pretty

[harrythevifan]

15 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said:

their rollin' is coming!

 

the chorus is so pretty

The guys are starting to notice this really pretty group.  But will the girls listen to this?

 

 

They will on Vibe.

 

-Katseye is Bighybe's only hope.

[paddii_]

Manon is kinda of iconic. Her giving 60% and still getting a spot in the group. It's also clear that her dancing is still lacking because she is always in the back when there is somehow dance moves involved but she still gets to start and finish center. The other girls must be fuming but I'm happy for her winning while being lazy as ****. 

Edited September 14 by paddii_

[Hazy]

59 minutes ago, paddii_ said:

Manon is kinda of iconic. Her giving 60% and still getting a spot in the group. It's also clear that her dancing is still lacking because she is always in the back when there is somehow dance moves involved but she still gets to start and finish center. The other girls must be fuming but I'm happy for her winning while being lazy as ****. 

she literally had no experience when she got scouted?? 

 

it's clear to me she got a huge confidence boost after fan votes, that's when she decided to talk with the rest of the girls and put in the work - she did an amazing job in catching up and did a huge progress, most people are forgetting that the rest of the girls were pros, either at dancing, singing or both

[Joseline]

I have opinions on some of their claims of "mistreatment," but it's not surprising to me that KJ as an artist who similarly debuted very young would feel more kinship with the NJ members than Hybe as an entity or BPD as his boss. Plus, his post doesn't necessarily "defend" MHJ. Even if the NJ members endorse her, KJ's words might've only been words of support extended toward NJ. Now it's up to the fans and the media to decide which party he thinks is using New Jeans as a "shield." It's probably both. But both sides will think it's the other.

 

[WeFoundWill]

1 hour ago, Sailor Moon said:

their rollin' is coming!

 

the chorus is so pretty

what in the pop perfection is going on in here

[Joseline]

 

[taylamour]

1 hour ago, Sailor Moon said:

their rollin' is coming!

 

the chorus is so pretty

I literally ID'ed this song when it was playing at ktown earlier. Incoming smash

[Joseline]

 

Cutes fancam ever

 

 

[newaespa]

MELON DAILY CHART

56 (-1) CRAZY

all these promotion yet no one is girling girling or whatever nonsense lyrics those LOS SER came out

[JO1s]

42 minutes ago, Joseline said:

I have opinions on some of their claims of "mistreatment," but it's not surprising to me that KJ as an artist who similarly debuted very young would feel more kinship with the NJ members than Hybe as an entity or BPD as his boss. Plus, his post doesn't necessarily "defend" MHJ. Even if the NJ members endorse her, KJ's words might've only been words of support extended toward NJ. Now it's up to the fans and the media to decide which party he thinks is using New Jeans as a "shield." It's probably both. But both sides will think it's the other.

 

So you think just because you post streaming achievement updates, you think you know the Korean music industry then someone who worked their way to the top and has been in that industry for 12 years?

[Antunes]

2 hours ago, Sailor Moon said:

their rollin' is coming!

 

the chorus is so pretty

gorgeous gorgeous girls 

[Witnessed ET]

58 minutes ago, Hazy said:

she literally had no experience when she got scouted?? 

 

it's clear to me she got a huge confidence boost after fan votes, that's when she decided to talk with the rest of the girls and put in the work - she did an amazing job in catching up and did a huge progress, most people are forgetting that the rest of the girls were pros, either at dancing, singing or both

Manon is the biggest example of pretty privilege I've seen in recent history. And the people use the excuse "oh she has the It factor" to justify her place but we know the tea. But either way, she definitely has put in the work and has been able to catch up to the other girls who are just insanely talented individually. So I'm rooting for her tbh.  

[ItsJustMe.]

 

yes they are IT!

[BellKat]

5 hours ago, BigBangStan said:

 

 

What a king!

He is always so unpredictable, I love him 

 

I have been so worried for the girls, because we never know what side is going to end up winning. They do not deserve to be dragged down by whoever ends up having the short end of the stick.

Seeing all the support makes me feel relieved!

[ItsJustMe.]

i love lisa but other than the obvious reasons i can see why she's still nominated in the kpop categories

except for the vmas she stays in the korean idol lane

correct me if im wrong but the only interview she did was that korean drinking show

and she does dance challenges with kpop artists

 

 

if she really wants to break out globally she needs to do more interviews and performances

her songs are doing well because of her fans and kpop fans

and honestly the vma performance was fun but it could've been a lot better, it was serving kpop star being a little nervous to perform in a big global show.

i get it but then i think of britney who was a teenager when she served that iconic stage presence, so I can't see why lisa couldn't. we know she can command a stage too!

also idols are literally trained for korean award shows, which is all about being polite and serving 0 personality in crowds/when accepting awards

lisa as a foreigner probably trained even harder for this so she just comes across as a little less impactful with her vma moments

 

show yourself and your personality girlie and go all out. the material and talent is there

 

this was my TEDtalk 

[Windy Day]

4 hours ago, Nido said:

Also to continue my point. I don't think a lot of Twitter users who throw around words such as "grooming" or "inappropriate" to describe the relationship between the NJ girls and MHJ really a have a clue how things work. Maybe there's been such normalized ideas of idols having little to no connection to their output that someone would think it's "WEIRD" to see a form of mentorship between a creative director and their brainchild of a group.

 

There's a reason why these girls blew up so fast and became so loved by the GP. It's because their every output was greatly executed by a company lead by a woman who CARES about them. You can just tell that they enjoyed performing their songs from day 1, that they have no issues with their art direction, styling, music, management whatsoever, because that's the environment that they were brought up in. It explains why they think so highly of MHJ and raised all the mistreatment concerns about the new management, because she was the one who created the environment that allowed them some humanity before it got taken away. 

 

I don't think MHJ deserves zero blame for whatever conflict that's been happening since this whole thing started but if you reallyyyy look into it, you would see that she only wanted the best for these girls and HYBE was having none of it.

 

 

 

 

omg someone with a brain…

[Windy Day]

1 hour ago, newaespa said:

MELON DAILY CHART

56 (-1) CRAZY

all these promotion yet no one is girling girling or whatever nonsense lyrics those LOS SER came out

the way i never hear this song anywhere  they had the biggest hit in the country last winter it's insane how hard they fell 

[OrgVisual]

4 hours ago, Nido said:

Also to continue my point. I don't think a lot of Twitter users who throw around words such as "grooming" or "inappropriate" to describe the relationship between the NJ girls and MHJ really a have a clue how things work. Maybe there's been such normalized ideas of idols having little to no connection to their output that someone would think it's "WEIRD" to see a form of mentorship between a creative director and their brainchild of a group.

 

There's a reason why these girls blew up so fast and became so loved by the GP. It's because their every output was greatly executed by a company lead by a woman who CARES about them. You can just tell that they enjoyed performing their songs from day 1, that they have no issues with their art direction, styling, music, management whatsoever, because that's the environment that they were brought up in. It explains why they think so highly of MHJ and raised all the mistreatment concerns about the new management, because she was the one who created the environment that allowed them some humanity before it got taken away. 

 

I don't think MHJ deserves zero blame for whatever conflict that's been happening since this whole thing started but if you reallyyyy look into it, you would see that she only wanted the best for these girls and HYBE was having none of it.

 

 

 

 

It would make sense if MHJ didn't show so many problematic behaviours; and them just blindly follow her can be seen as troublesome to some people