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Posted by Gorjesspazze9,

Still waiting for Spotify to release my Diss Mixtape. HYBE is pulling strings behind the scenes cuz I got them Shook. yall get to hear the first track @youresotoxic @elevate    

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Zack Grand Master

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5 hours ago, itshyolee said:

SM were wack for not capitalizing on SHY.

To be honest SM was right to ignore this. All of them were low on the popularity lists and let's face it, who was gonna actually seriously sing? :rip:

 

The next unit SM was pursuing was Jessica & Krystal and it was the right choice. It would have been a unit with far more talent and potential popularity, so that's the real crime here.

 

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Lisa performance had a great arrangement/remix, but she should fire the choreographer/stage director since it was lackluster and also the MTV cameras let her down.

 

The camera kept panning to the audience and zooming away from the stage literally every other second, even during the dance break? :ace:

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13 minutes ago, Zack said:

To be honest SM was right to ignore this. All of them were low on the popularity lists and let's face it, who was gonna actually seriously sing? :rip:

 

The next unit SM was pursuing was Jessica & Krystal and it was the right choice. It would have been a unit with far more talent and potential popularity, so that's the real crime here.

 

All of SNSD can sing…. Except Hyo tbh. And popularity was never a problem for them, ever. And they are better performers, which is what the group was gonna be. A dance group. 

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14 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

All of SNSD can sing…. Except Hyo tbh. And popularity was never a problem for them, ever. And they are better performers, which is what the group was gonna be. A dance group. 

They can all sing (in some cases only just), but I said seriously sing. That unit would not have had enough vocal weight to carry SNSD's group brand (which was synonymous with great group vocals regardless)

 

Also popularity was definitely a problem. Those same fans begged SM for Yuri and Hyoyeon solo albums and just look what happened. Yuri flopped in sales and digitals and so did Hyo and her album struggled to even reach 10k sales. SM is a business, if they thought it could be a cash cow they would have done it.

 

Those fans begging were stupid. If they asked for Yoona to be included, SM might have taken the bait.

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4 minutes ago, Zack said:

They can all sing (in some cases only just), but I said seriously sing. That unit would not have had enough vocal weight to carry SNSD's brand (which was synonymous with great vocals regardless)

 

Also popularity was definitely a problem. Those same fans begged SM for Yuri and Hyoyeon solo albums and just look what happened. Yuri flopped in sales and digitals and Hyo album struggled to pass 10k. SM is a business, if they thought it could be a cash cow they would have done it.

 

Those fans were stupid. If they asked for Yoona to be included, SM might have taken the bait. 

They would have, considering they been carrying SNSD brand already and doing just fine. Yeah, They would have sold less then TTS in 2014, but they would have still sold and been popular any year. 

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44 minutes ago, Zack said:

Lisa performance had a great arrangement/remix, but she should fire the choreographer/stage director since it was lackluster and also the MTV cameras let her down.

 

The camera kept panning to the audience and zooming away from the stage literally every other second, even during the dance break? :ace:

western cameramen are so awful. Nothing like the camera from K-shows

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Starting soon...

 

  • MCD.EP862: KATSEYE, MEOVV, RESCENE, Loossemble, LE SSERAFIM, NMIXX, YERIN, TZUYU(TWICE), ARrC, KINO, xikers, NOWADAYS, BOYNEXTDOOR, NCT WISH

Hey, look, a Bighybe girl group debut stage.  Timely.

 

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44 minutes ago, Chemist said:

western cameramen are so awful. Nothing like the camera from K-shows

MAMA cameras works are awful too :rip:! 

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So cute :jonny:

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Can't wait for katseye :jonny6:

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7 minutes ago, CrisPop said:

 

So cute :jonny:

Awful. ITZY is the trash bin of JYP only getting songs no other group wants. The song is not even ITZY in the slightest 💀

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the Lisa performance was flawless :rip: once again yall have unrealistic standards for her

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9 hours ago, VelvetCrush said:

Is there any realistic way for the NewJeans thing to end in some way other than them suing HYBE to terminate the contracts? Because I don't see them putting MHJ as CEO again.

Doubtfully not as NewJeans. When you leave a company there hardly are chance of staying relevant in Korea without a scandal involved. 
 

HYBE will want to make sure no other group ever again will speak up again like this. 
 

I can see them together under a new company but with different solo names and identity as a group also HYBE then will try to black list them as much as possible

 

also they will need a new concept for sure. 
there is also the chance that Hybe will keep them in their contracts and just shelve them till the 7 years are over. 
 

Luckily they have GP on their side. 
but it's gonna get even messier from now on 

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Is Katseye not having an interview in M Countdown? They already performed... I guess no time to shine for Yoonchae:rip:

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2 minutes ago, TheCal said:

Is Katseye not having an interview in M Countdown? They already performed... I guess no time to shine for Yoonchae:rip:

They're saving it for KBSWORLD.

 

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6 minutes ago, WeFoundWill said:

the Lisa performance was flawless :rip: once again yall have unrealistic standards for her

She's LALISA so yes we have :gayorkcat2: The choreography is wack especially new woman at least she did sum with Rs

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they ate:clap3:

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24 minutes ago, CrisPop said:

 

So cute :jonny:

It's cute but it's not single material we need ***** 

 

16 minutes ago, paddii_ said:

Awful. ITZY is the trash bin of JYP only getting songs no other group wants. The song is not even ITZY in the slightest 💀

Please Itzy has been releasing the best songs in JYP for two years now. Twice isn't giving lately.:xtinass:

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That dunkin song NCT Wish is doing, is it like a cover of the NCT Dream dunk song, or is it a completely different similar song?  I guess I could just wait, but I'll take the spoiler too.

 

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7 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

Please Itzy has been releasing the best songs in JYP for two years now. Twice isn't giving lately.:xtinass:

never thought I'd say this, but it's actually been NMIXX post-Payola Me Like This

 

I think ITZY have been getting back on track though

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19 minutes ago, paddii_ said:

Doubtfully not as NewJeans. When you leave a company there hardly are chance of staying relevant in Korea without a scandal involved. 
 

HYBE will want to make sure no other group ever again will speak up again like this. 
 

I can see them together under a new company but with different solo names and identity as a group also HYBE then will try to black list them as much as possible

 

also they will need a new concept for sure. 
there is also the chance that Hybe will keep them in their contracts and just shelve them till the 7 years are over. 
 

Luckily they have GP on their side. 
but it's gonna get even messier from now on 

you guys seem to forget that not only newjeans is universally loved in korea, min heejin is also highly respected in the industry which is why not only all of her collaborators showed support, but even people from SM, YG spoke up in support of her. and did we forget the amount of business card she received after her press conference???

 

 

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so yea, hybe may be a big company, but not only do newjeans and MHJ have an overwhelming public support, they have also support from the industry. there's a reason why hybe fought to get their hands on MHJ only a couple of days after she left SM lmao. the situation is not comparable with other groups / idols to talk about blacklist and flop or whatever

 

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He's the closest to a 4th gen it boy along with Felix

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51 minutes ago, paddii_ said:

Awful. ITZY is the trash bin of JYP only getting songs no other group wants. The song is not even ITZY in the slightest 💀

It's just a song previewed in their first show as 5 after a year. It's not that deep :skull:

 

 


 

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Lisa's VMAs performance lacking so much in comparison to like Chappell Roan, Sabrina or Camila. And the fact that she's one of Kpop best performers too

 

The thing with these Kpop girlies is without a highly choreographed movements; they don't know what else to do on stage. Like the amount of time she put her hands in the air or touch her hair :rip: 

 

 

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 omg I need hybe to go DOWN ALREADY JESUSSSSS

 

 

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