fan base K-Pop Thread: Taeyeon Sick of SM, Blasts Their Mismanagement

[MonsterNavy]

2 minutes ago, illia said:

Really shows how fast k-pop moves compared with the Western music industry

the way they treat BoA like she's the hags of all hags when she's not even 40. she's literally the same age as Gaga, Katy & Rihanna and kpopies act like she's like Cher who's been in the industry for 60 years

[Rainy Devil]

28 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

 

 

interesting video

SISTAR - 7 (1 at #1)

2NE1 - 5 songs (1 at #1)

SNSD - 4 (1 at #1)

T-ARA - 5 (0 at #1)

Wonder Girls  - 4 (0 at #1)

 

There is a bigger gap between SISTAR and 2NE1 than 2NE1 and SNSD when it came to digital songs. 

Too bad they couldn't even hold a fan meeting or sell albums. Reason why most of them are huge flops now.

 

When you think about it, IVE is like an improved SISTAR. They have the hits but can sell albums and go on tour.

 

[Rainy Devil]

8 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

the way they treat BoA like she's the hags of all hags when she's not even 40. she's literally the same age as Gaga, Katy & Rihanna and kpopies act like she's like Cher who's been in the industry for 60 years

Yeah, poor BoA. The fact some people threat her like she should be retired and the woman is like 3/2 years older than Taeyeon. 

[getinthezone]

10 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

the way they treat BoA like she's the hags of all hags when she's not even 40. she's literally the same age as Gaga, Katy & Rihanna and kpopies act like she's like Cher who's been in the industry for 60 years

because she debuted when she was like 12

[Gorjesspazze9]

What?! 2NE1. Be fr
In October 2011, Girls' Generation became the very first artist to have 1 million recorded physical sales on Gaon. The Boys was the only album by a female artist to top the Gaon Yearly Chart, and the best selling female record in Kpop until Twice broke it years later.Within minute after the release of The Boys, SNSD achieved an "all-kill" status on all major on and off line music charts in Korea.

Spoiler

And SM didn't even give the boys a proper Korean comeback cuz they were focused on interscope and western expansion. The sone and Korean public can tell you how upset we were that they weren't even trying to promote SNSD cuz they were so popular SM didn't think they had to try domestically. And they still eclipsed 2NE1 by a lot. Be fr.Despite not on Billboard Hot 100, the song managed to peak inside the Top 30 on the iTunes chart in the US, selling over 21,000 copies becoming one of the best selling K-Pop songs. In South Korea itself, the album sold 227,994 within twelve days becoming the best selling album in October and third best selling album in 2011. By the end of December, a total of 385,348 copies of The Boys had been sold which then lead to the best selling album in 2011 and by April 2012, they sold over 410,000 copies in South Korea setting a Gaon Chart record for the best selling, non-repackaged album in the charts history. From October to December, The Boys became the 10th best selling digital track in Korea having 3,032,658 copies sold.

On November 30 the girls releases their first official Japanese photobook titled "Holiday" which made to the number one spot on book sales ranking chart under photograph collection category and sold 17,000 copies for the first week. The book was ranked eighteenth on the overall book sales rank. At the same time on December 14, The 1st Japan Arena Tour was also made available on Blu-ray and DVD.

On December 28, the girls release a re-packaged version of their debut Japanese album "Girls Generation" that includes Japanese version of "The Boys" and remixed versions of "The Great Escape", "Bad Girl" and "Mr Taxi" as well as the new song "Time Machine". The album passed sales of over 800,000 with shipments f 1 million. On the second week of January 2012, the album was placed fifth on the Oricon Weekly CD Albums chart. Oricon stated that it was the first time in history that an album by Korean artist has placed in Top 10 for 17 weeks. Due to the Japanese release, the girls ranked fifth among Japanese artists in terms of monetary profit which had generated over 4.5 billion Yen (USD 57 million) for 2011.

 

Edited June 26 by Gorjesspazze9

[getinthezone]

2 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

What?! 2NE1. Be fr
In October 2011, Girls' Generation became the very first artist to have 1 million recorded physical sales on Gaon. The Boys was the only album by a female artist to top the Gaon Yearly Chart, and the best selling female record in Kpop until Twice broke it years later.Within minute after the release of The Boys, SNSD achieved an "all-kill" status on all major on and off line music charts in Korea.

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And SM didn't even give the boys a proper Korean comeback cuz they were focused on interscope and western expansion. The sone and Korean public can tell you how upset we were that they weren't even trying to promote SNSD cuz they were so popular SM didn't think they had to try domestically. And they still eclipsed 2NE1 by a lot. Be fr.Despite not on Billboard Hot 100, the song managed to peak inside the Top 30 on the iTunes chart in the US, selling over 21,000 copies becoming one of the best selling K-Pop songs. In South Korea itself, the album sold 227,994 within twelve days becoming the best selling album in October and third best selling album in 2011. By the end of December, a total of 385,348 copies of The Boys had been sold which then lead to the best selling album in 2011 and by April 2012, they sold over 410,000 copies in South Korea setting a Gaon Chart record for the best selling, non-repackaged album in the charts history. From October to December, The Boys became the 10th best selling digital track in Korea having 3,032,658 copies sold.

On November 30 the girls releases their first official Japanese photobook titled "Holiday" which made to the number one spot on book sales ranking chart under photograph collection category and sold 17,000 copies for the first week. The book was ranked eighteenth on the overall book sales rank. At the same time on December 14, The 1st Japan Arena Tour was also made available on Blu-ray and DVD.

On December 28, the girls release a re-packaged version of their debut Japanese album "Girls Generation" that includes Japanese version of "The Boys" and remixed versions of "The Great Escape", "Bad Girl" and "Mr Taxi" as well as the new song "Time Machine". The album passed sales of over 800,000 with shipments f 1 million. On the second week of January 2012, the album was placed fifth on the Oricon Weekly CD Albums chart. Oricon stated that it was the first time in history that an album by Korean artist has placed in Top 10 for 17 weeks. Due to the Japanese release, the girls ranked fifth among Japanese artists in terms of monetary profit which had generated over 4.5 billion Yen (USD 57 million) for 2011.

 

why are its streams so low tho

 

I dont care also has more than Gee 

[Gorjesspazze9]

3 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

why are its streams so low tho

 

I dont care also has more than Gee 

The same reason 2NE1 don't have a Billion streamed song. 
 

[MonsterNavy]

6 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

because she debuted when she was like 12

I know. so did miley, selena and demi but she's only 6 years older than them ddd

 

she also acts like she's 40 something and the sunbaenim culture in korea adds to it too so maybe that's why

[Rainy Devil]

Just now, getinthezone said:

why are its streams so low tho

 

I dont care also has more than Gee 

The answer is quite simple, people have streamed more some songs over time than others. The sucess for the year it was released is a different thing.

 

If we go by global numbers, since people claimed 2NE1 was global and SNSD was local, you can see only IATB has great streams, everything else is low or mediocre for a supposed global group. 

 

 

 

[MonsterNavy]

53 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

 

 

interesting video

2016 - #3 BLACKPINK

2017 - #1 BLACKPINK

2018 - #1 BLACKPINK

2019 - what number is KTL?

2020 - #1 & #2 BLACKPINK

2021 - no crackstink comeback

2022 - what number are PV & SD?

2023 - no crackstink comeback

 

whew that's the biggest girl group in the world right there

 

 

Edited June 26 by MonsterNavy

[Gorjesspazze9]

26 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

its funny how kpopies think snsd was 70 years ago when its just 15  

 

same debut year with taylor swift and same age as the disney girls miley selena and demi  

It's cuz they are now all gagging over 15 year olds   
Like I said in a few years the next gen will move on and start calling BTS unc and BP grannies 

[cloudbusting]

 

hopefully I'm not too late for page 2012, but Miss slAy still my favorite JYPGG to this day 

 

well I was but STILL

Edited June 26 by cloudbusting

[getinthezone]

3 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

I know. so did miley, selena and demi but she's only 6 years older than them ddd

 

she also acts like she's 40 something and the sunbaenim culture in korea adds to it too so maybe that's why

she kind of gave up her korea fame for japan

[getinthezone]

2 minutes ago, Rainy Devil said:

The answer is quite simple, people have streamed more some songs over time than others. The sucess for the year it was released is a different thing.

 

If we go by global numbers, since people claimed 2NE1 was global and SNSD was local, you can see only IATB has great streams, everything else is low or mediocre for a supposed global group. 

 

 

 

Whatever, we all know SNSD was the top group, but they werent untouchable like some users make it out

[cloudbusting]

that was HERSTORY

[Rainy Devil]

1 minute ago, MonsterNavy said:

2019 - what number is KTL?

2022 - what number are PV & SD?

 

No idea, but not in the top 5. 

 

I'm kinda kiing at the fact they included 2024 when the year is far from over.

 

[MonsterNavy]

5 minutes ago, Rainy Devil said:

No idea, but not in the top 5. 

 

I'm kinda kiing at the fact they included 2024 when the year is far from over.

 

I wanna know what #s KTL, PV and SD are is there any way to know?  

[MonsterNavy]

oop thots?

 

most streamed girl groups on melon:

1. TWICE — 2,956,716,600 streams 
2. DAVICHI — 2,940,366,900 streams
3. BLACKPINK — 2,196,152,300 streams
4. Red Velvet — 2,190,331,900 streams
5. MAMAMOO — 2,149,979,200 streams
6. GFRIEND — 1,423,772,800 streams
7. 2NE1 — 1,353,600,000 streams
8. Girls' Generation — 1,353,374,900 streams
9. Apink — 1,314,457,400 streams
10. SISTAR — 1,242,935,100 streams

[Gorjesspazze9]

Imagine coming for SNSD legacy when thier main vocalist is out here being one of the top digital soloist in Korean music history.  Where CL? I thought she was supposed to be the Next Global Sensation. 

 

[Gorjesspazze9]

13 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

Whatever, we all know SNSD was the top group, but they werent untouchable like some users make it out

They were

[MonsterNavy]

2 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

Imagine coming for SNSD legacy when thier main vocalist is out here being one of the top digital soloist in Korean music history.  Where CL? I thought she was supposed to be the Next Global Sensation. 

 

to be fair YG sabotaged CL's solo career  

 

but SNSD's legendary career truly extends until 2024 with Taeyeon its crazy. Taeyeon has like what, 20 #1s with SNSD and her solos combined

[Pluto6]

1 hour ago, getinthezone said:

IATB double the unique listeners of the boys (biggest gg comeback of all time btw), why?

 

 

Because it's the bigger song.

 

58 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

 

 

interesting video

It's interesting how Sistar, 2NE1, T-Ara and Davichi are appearing more here than the supposed untouchable.mp3 girl group, why is that? I thought that they were MILES AHEAD of everyone else? Are we being lied to in here?

[Pluto6]

11 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

most streamed girl groups on melon:

 

1. TWICE — 2,956,716,600 streams 

 

Truly the biggest hitmakers, and you baguettes still have the nerve to come for TWICE  

 

Edited June 26 by Pluto6

[getinthezone]

 

 

biggest 2nd gen gg in japan

Edited June 26 by getinthezone

[Rainy Devil]

3 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

Whatever, we all know SNSD was the top group, but they werent untouchable like some users make it out

They definitely weren't.

SISTAR and 2NE1 were digital monsters. T-ARA was a threat as well during their peak: hits, good album sales and popular members. Wonder Girls were also very popular and relevant despite the line up changes and breaks. And then you had KARA with big success in JP also fighting over there with SNSD. 

 

In the 3rd gen the ranking is a no brainer.