MonsterNavy Posted June 4 Posted June 4 when ateez becomes the first album to knock ttpd on top then what
motherpills Posted June 4 Posted June 4 15 hours ago, Red Velvet said: Birthday and Chill Kill being their most recent and also their worst comebacks. Hopefully SM has given them something good this time as they deserve it. as a reveluv who became a fan during zimzalabim i need them to serve another bad boy psycho 3.0 remix idgaf 1
flashfox Posted June 4 Posted June 4 14 minutes ago, romiskes said: After LIKE #3 overall, we love a national hit. Big Criminals ended our faves
Gorjesspazze9 Posted June 4 Posted June 4 After Like Music video still looks insane to this day. Like that's how you use budget 3
Zack Posted June 4 Posted June 4 1 hour ago, Gorjesspazze9 said: No member wanted to kick her out. That was a false narrative made up online following the confusion of 9/30. No. It's closest to the truth. The problem was instigated by the members/parents, not SM, who was already receiving royalties from B&E due to an agreement with Jessica. They actually had zero reason to remove Jessica from the group over a side business. So if Jessica didn't want to leave and SM didn't have any desire to remove her originally...then that can only leave one group of people in the frame. Dispatch had posted what is arguably the closest tea we have to the true situation But it was mysteriously deleted within an hour and later replaced by an article that heavily favored SM/SNSD and stated lies that Jessica was getting married, wanted to quit, go to design school and all the other nonsense used to smear/damage her image in the media...which time has ALL proven to be false.
montacelo Posted June 4 Posted June 4 Regardless of why Jessica left and or was kicked out, I ultimately think it was the best choice. There had long been tension in the group with Jessica and some members. If she had stayed any longer who knows how much worse all of that could have played out.
Witnessed ET Posted June 4 Posted June 4 (edited) Im glad BBC finally made this documentary 5 years later, but it's sad how nothing has changed apparently in the Korean society, and I hear that criminal seungri is about to open another nightclub? also Hara, what an angel, RIP Edited June 4 by Witnessed ET
Witnessed ET Posted June 4 Posted June 4 1 hour ago, romiskes said: After LIKE #3 overall, we love a national hit. Also I AM at #5 they're truly such nation's sweethearts 3
Zack Posted June 4 Posted June 4 36 minutes ago, montacelo said: Regardless of why Jessica left and or was kicked out, I ultimately think it was the best choice. There had long been tension in the group with Jessica and some members. If she had stayed any longer who knows how much worse all of that could have played out. It worked out in the end for Jessica because she's a very strong person and very hard worker. But I don't think getting her removed was the "best" choice for any of them. OT:
montacelo Posted June 4 Posted June 4 22 minutes ago, Zack said: It worked out in the end for Jessica because she's a very strong person and very hard worker. But I don't think getting her removed was the "best" choice for any of them. OT: And so are the other members. it was best for all of them. All of them got what they needed from the group, why bother being in a hostile working environment?
Zack Posted June 4 Posted June 4 Just now, montacelo said: And so are the other members. it was best for all of them. All of them got what they needed from the group, why bother being in a hostile working environment? SNSD was her life's work and she was among the first in the group to be casted by SM. I don't see why she needed to be forced to give it all up. It's not a decision she wanted. A letter Krystal wrote to her spoke about Jessica being in tears every day over it. The song "Dear Diary" on her first mini album also suggests she had suffered from a serious depression during that time. And there was no "soshibond" to check up on her. She was alone. She made the best of a bad situation, but let's not pretend it was for the best.
Asscatchem Posted June 4 Posted June 4 1 hour ago, Zack said: It feels like the other members were feeling salty that her brand was going to take off due to their hard work as a team? SM got their cut but what about the other 8 girls? Money can really drive relationships apart. Fast forward though, B&E ended up being a non-factor…
Asscatchem Posted June 4 Posted June 4 42 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said: Also I AM at #5 they're truly such nation's sweethearts This song was up against hurricane NewJeans, Forever 1, TWICE comeback, and still made its mark in history Nothing but honest, quality K-pop. 2
Odette Violet Posted June 4 Posted June 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, MonsterNavy said: kill this love wirh 4 songs and released in 2019 when kpop was still not huge in spotify blackpink you will always be famous Armageddon being on the Top 4 with no payola, insane playlistings, autoplay See when you authentically do Kpop and don't chase trends Edited June 4 by Odette Violet 1
Pluto6 Posted June 4 Posted June 4 (edited) 5 hours ago, MusicFan98 said: SNSD is a Second Gen act, they invented K-pop being global as we know it, they charted on billboard 200 before TWICE even existed, they were one of the first groups to get over 100M views on youtube, they were outselling boygroups, yet you wanna act as if TWICE did something SNSD couldn't do?? Quote SNSD is a Second Gen act, they invented K-pop being global as we know it, Wasn't BoA the first Kpop act to promote outside of Korea? Anyways, some of you need a reality check cause this thread is the only place I see people constantly talk about SNSD It's always BTS, BP and TWICE you hear everywhere. 3rd gen is the reason why Kpop is this global as it is now, and the reason why many of us got introduced to Kpop with BTS, BLACKPINK AND TWICE being the face of that generation and also generally known as the BIG 3 in Kpop overall. This is why 4th gen and 5th gen are thriving at this level right now, which is thanks to 3rd gen that took Kpop to a complete other level that the previous generations before them couldn't do or reach. Quote they charted on billboard 200 before TWICE even existed, Yeah only because TWICE didn't exist back then Anyways let's compare their Billboard 200 peak numbers, since you wanna bring Billboard up: TWICE: With YOU-th #1 (TWICE just had #1 album just recently 9 years into their career) Ready to Be #2 Between 1&2 #3 Formula of Love #3 Taste Of love #6 Eyes Wide Open #72 More More #200 Bonus: Im Nayeon #7 #ZONE #14 SNSD: Mr. Mr. #110 Quote they were one of the first groups to get over 100M views on youtube, they were outselling boygroups, yet you wanna act as if TWICE did something SNSD couldn't do?? You're constantly reducing SNSD to what they achieved during 2nd gen, when TWICE literally had to compete with BTS AND BLACKPINK TWICE were literally known for being monster sellers as well and were literally selling at least 1,5M-2M YEARLY before the album sales boost era, and were outselling every bg apart from BTS and EXO, hence why they was and still is the best selling female act in Kpop In conclusion, there are are no 2nd gen Kpop act that has reached the level of BTS, BLACKPINK or TWICE simple as that. Quote yet you wanna act as if TWICE did something SNSD couldn't do?? This is just one example of what SNSD couldn't do btw SM Sheep/Scones can seethe, cause you guys might feel very powerful in this thread due to y'all being the majority in here, but everyone else outside of this thread knows that TWICE are bigger than SNSD. Deep down inside y'all know that as well, but some of you would rather eat soil than admitting that. Now cry Edited June 4 by Pluto6 2 3
Zack Posted June 4 Posted June 4 3 minutes ago, Asscatchem said: It feels like the other members were feeling salty that her brand was going to take off due to their hard work as a team? SM got their cut but what about the other 8 girls? Money can really drive relationships apart. Fast forward though, B&E ended up being a non-factor… I've often wondered, if the issue truly was money, the parents/members could have asked for a royalty agreement too. But it seems the position was only leave the business or leave the group, neither of which was a choice for Jessica. SM failed to act until it was too late. B&E has been open for nearly 10 years, yet it never interfered Jessica acquiring CFs, including with top level luxury fashion houses
Odette Violet Posted June 4 Posted June 4 another set of PAKs next week if AKMU don't pose a threat on the charts
Save-Me-Oprah Posted June 4 Posted June 4 3 minutes ago, Odette Violet said: another set of PAKs next week if AKMU don't pose a threat on the charts how is AKMU doing? Is YG gonna make rent this month? 3
Save-Me-Oprah Posted June 4 Posted June 4 7 minutes ago, Pluto6 said: Wasn't BoA the first Kpop act to promote outside of Korea? Anyways, some of you need a reality check cause this thread is the only place I see people constantly talk about SNSD It's always BTS, BP and TWICE you hear everywhere. 3rd gen is the reason why Kpop is this global as it is now, and the reason why many of us got introduced to Kpopwith BTS, BLACKPINK AND TWICE being the face of that generation and also generally known as the BIG 3 in Kpop overall. This is why 4th gen and 5th gen are thriving at this level right now, which is thanks to 3rd gen that took Kpop to a complete other level that the previous generations before them couldn't do or reach. Yeah only because TWICE didn't exist back then Anyways let's compare their Billboard 200 peak numbers, since you wanna bring Billboard up: TWICE: With YOU-th #1 (TWICE just had #1 album just recently 9 years into their career) Ready to Be #2 Between 1&2 #3 Formula of Love #3 Taste Of love #6 Eyes Wide Open #72 More More #200 Bonus: Im Nayeon #7 #ZONE #14 SNSD: Mr. Mr. #110 You're constantly reducing SNSD to what they achieved during 2nd gen, when TWICE literally had to compete with BTS AND BLACKPINK TWICE were literally known for being monster sellers as well and were literally selling at least 1,5M-2M YEARLY before the album sales boost era, and were outselling every bg apart from BTS and EXO, hence why they was and still is the best selling female act in Kpop In conclusion, there are are no 2nd gen Kpop act that has reached the level of BTS, BLACKPINK or TWICE simple as that. This is just one example of what SNSD couldn't do btw SM Sheep/Scones can seethe, cause you guys might feel very powerful in this thread due to y'all being the majority in here, but everyone else outside of this thread knows that TWICE are bigger than SNSD. Deep down inside y'all know that as well, but some of you would rather eat soil than admitting that lets talk about oppas 1
hallucinate Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 hours ago, MonsterNavy said: when ateez becomes the first album to knock ttpd on top then what doubt it there are probably new variants on the way as we speak
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