fan base K-Pop Thread: Taeyeon Sick of SM, Blasts Their Mismanagement

[Pluto6]

2 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

She Did! 
"GG" -The Boys

"My Angel, My Girls, My Sunshine Uh,Uh,Uh, Let's Go!" -Gee

"Dont Stop! let's Bring it back to 140!" -I Got a God

 

 

Exactly, her and Tiffany always had the best parts I fear 

 

The way I LIVE every time Tiffany screams in their songs, I love her vocal tone so much 

[Sheep]

16 minutes ago, Zack said:

What evidence. Provide it. 

Because all fingers point to the members and their parents influencing SM to exit her from the group. 

 

Soshified literally has records of all their activities and in August 2014 she was present for every single one (whereas other members were not).

 

You fell for SM's lies sweetie. Time has shown all the lies about her wanting to leave to get married, go to design school etc. are fake. There is no evidence of her missing schedules. There is no evidence she was planning to leave. There is no evidence that SM did not agree with her launching a business. 

 

If you have some personal hatred for her, fine but just admit it and own that you randomly hate her, instead of acting as if it is supported by any rational or factual evidence.

Just like your fav, you love painting a false narrative. Jessica herself said on 930 that she was kicked out over blank(check) and eclairs at the discretion of her(former, never to be again) members. Granted this is coming from a faulty source that would later go on to make wattpad fanfiction and stand back while the publisher tried to to market it as a dl tell-all and who has been taken to court for contract fraud on multiple occasions(ironically never by SM as both parties mutually agreed to contract termination) so it might not be 100% accurate, but that central fact matches up with every public statement, rumor, and even with her libel novels. She prioritized her solo prospects over the group at a time when much more in demand girls like Taeyeon were letting their solo careers take a back seat until after the 7 year mark.

 

They wouldn't just kick her out of the group for zero reason. The best motive Janons have come up with even after taking her ridiculous fanfictions as fact is more talented, prettier, more popular girls with a better public image being jealous of her and crying to their parents about it. Like stan like fav though, we all can see where the real jealousy lies. 

 

If you just want to blindly worship your bias, fine but quit vilifying the other eight girls who have a spotless track record and who haven't made defamatory, obviously fake claims about anybody involved.

Edited May 17 by Sheep

[Save-Me-Oprah]

the real gag here is that Susan refused to let Tiffany into the building when she was on her shift at the security desk. Queen has always been by the book, no special favours or bent rules from her!

 

[Pluto6]

The way I could see MISAMO slay a song like this, bestie  @youresotoxic

I even know how I would distribute the parts for each member 

 

[cloudbusting]

death, taxes, arguments about Jessica vs the rest of SNSD

 

its nice to have reliability in life sometimes 

[Zack]

9 minutes ago, Sheep said:

Just like your fav, you love painting a false narrative. Jessica herself said on 930 that she was kicked out over blank(check) and eclairs at the discretion of her(former, never to be again) members. 

1. Jessica stated she was forced out by SM, as a result of the members. 

2. Her statement also stated this. 

3. SM's statement did not deny this

4. SNSD's Chinese fansites knew of this before the story broke

5. Dispatch posted an article within an hour of the story breaking also corroborating this. 

 

There is no false narrative. She was removed as a result of the members.

 

9 minutes ago, Sheep said:

Granted this is coming from a faulty source that would later go on to make wattpad fanfiction and stand back while the publisher tried to to market it as a dl tell-all and who has been taken to court for contract fraud on multiple occasions(ironically never by SM as both parties mutually agreed to contract termination) so it might not be 100% accurate, but that central fact matches up with every public statement, rumor, and even with her libel novels.

1. Jessica has not been personally/solely named in any lawsuits. Blanc & Eclare/Tyler Kwon (as company director/investor yes), but unless you're admitting you're a fan of blaming a woman for a MAN's problems = misogyny, then you need to drop that line of attack. 

 

2. Her novels are not libellous and there has been no lawsuit from SM or anyone connected, even after the publication of 2 books, so this is just meaningless nonsense from you. 

 

9 minutes ago, Sheep said:

She prioritized her solo prospects over the group at a time when much more in demand girls like Taeyeon were letting their solo careers take a back seat until the 7 year mark.

1. Again, I asked you to provide evidence that she "prioritized" her solo projects above the group and there is no evidence. She in fact delayed the launch of BLANC, as she was in the midst of also touring Love & Peace, promoting at SNSD's schedules, recording her unit album with Krystal and filming their reality show. Aside from BLANC all of those activities are SM/SNSD related and there is no evidence she prioritized BLANC over them. 

 

2. Taeyeon, Tiffany and Seohyun were literally in the middle of promoting in TTS which directly benefited only their solo ambitions as it gave them even more screentime/activities than the other members, so not sure how that is taking a backseat.

 

Like I said, you fell for the lies and that's on you.

 

Edited May 17 by Zack

[MonsterNavy]

the "ah body bang" karina part she shot her finger to giselle? dddd

[Save-Me-Oprah]

[Odette Violet]

 

It's never their stage presence was the issue. It's the kind of choreo that didn't allowed them to move gracefully. 

 

GLAD we're so over with that robotic mess era now.  They all are channeling MPGs  here whilst still being a unit 

 

Edited May 17 by Odette Violet

[MonsterNavy]

the girls are still cooking yunjin pn twitter and tiktok for this vogue vid ddd

 

 

[MonsterNavy]

8 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

 

It's never their stage presence was the issue. It's the kind of choreo that didn't allowed them to move gracefully. 

 

GLAD we're so over with that robotic mess era now.  They all are channeling MPGs  here whilst still being a unit 

 

no cause how would anyone move gracefully with black mamba and girls choreo

[Sheep]

20 minutes ago, Zack said:

1. Jessica stated she was forced out by SM, as a result of the members. 

2. Her statement also stated this. 

3. SM's statement did not deny this

4. SNSD's Chinese fansites knew of this before the story broke

5. Dispatch posted an article within an hour of the story breaking also corroborating this. 

 

There is no false narrative. She was removed as a result of the members.

Neither of us has claimed that she was removed from the group by anybody else but SNSD, you're just trying to change the point of discussion and distract from the reason SNSD kicked her out.

20 minutes ago, Zack said:

1. Jessica has not been personally named in any lawsuits. Blanc & Eclare/Tyler Kwon (as company director/investor yes), but unless you're admitting you're a fan of blaming a woman for a MAN's problems = misogyny, then you need to drop that line of attack. 

The Coridel lawsuits I'm referring to listed Jessica Jung as a defendant as the breeches of contracts in question were Jaws failing to live up to her end of the deal with Chinese management companies. Again with the painting a false narrative. Just like your fav invoking serious claims about being drugged and abused to absolve herself of any fault in her lying books, using the real social and economic inequalities that all women face around the world as a weapon to attack people who don't eat up your lies is downright disgusting.

 

You're bringing up a completely different legal dispute in which her man whom she stands by 100% on both a personal and business level as he's still intimately involved with both, committed fraud in the amount of $6.5M USD to prop up the dud fashion brand by taking out loans with zero intention of ever paying back. You only ever get a point in on these exchanges by ignoring what I'm saying and talking about something completely different while pretending it's relevant. Usually that completely separate point reinforces what I'm saying in the first place like it does here too 

20 minutes ago, Zack said:

. Taeyeon, Tiffany and Seohyun were literally in the middle of promoting in TTS which directly benefited only their solo ambitions as it gave them even more screentime/activities than the other members, so not sure how that is taking a backseat.

 

TTS was born out of a Korean hiatus period for the group the girls all agreed to while Yoona was working on Spring Rain.  Why didn't Jessica launch her tacky jeans and sunglasses then? Members(including Jessica) participated in many different solo activities during this period.

 

20 minutes ago, Zack said:

Like I said, you fell for the lies and that's on you.

A Janon accusing somebody else of falling for lies. The projecting 

Edited May 17 by Sheep

[Rainy Devil]

So is that point of the month where some of you post the same arguments about whatever went down between Jessica and SNSD.

 

 

[Odette Violet]

3 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

no cause how would anyone move gracefully with black mamba and girls choreo

sorry what? 

 

 

repent 

[DelRey]

The essays 

 

 

It's time to post some shirtless idols

[Eternium]

God, please take away Winter's pain and give it to Super Junior.

[Odette Violet]

Black Mamba was really THAT SONG 

 

the spiderman point choreo, the bridge, singsing going off then the final dance showdown,

 

 

what a DEBUT

 

[Cheers]

6 minutes ago, DelRey said:

The essays 

 

 

It's time to post some shirtless idols

post jaehyun

[Zack]

20 minutes ago, Sheep said:

Neither of us has claimed that she was removed from the group by anybody else but SNSD, you're just trying to change the point of discussion and distract from the reason SNSD kicked her out.

She was not removed for failing to "prioritize" the group, that is the point and one you have consistently failed to provide any evidence to the contrary.

 

20 minutes ago, Sheep said:

The Coridel lawsuits I'm referring to listed Jessica Jung as a defendant as the breeches of contracts in question were Jaws failing to live up to her end of the deal with Chinese management companies. Again with the painting a false narrative. Just like your fav invoking serious claims about being drugged and abused to absolve herself of any fault in her lying books, using the real social and economic inequalities that all women face around the world as a weapon to attack people who don't eat up your lies is downright disgusting. You're bringing up a completely different legal dispute in which her man whom she stands by 100% on both a personal and business level as he's still intimately involved with both, committed fraud in the amount of $6.5M USD to prop up the dud fashion brand by taking out loans with zero intention of ever paying back. You only ever get a point in on these exchanges by ignoring what I'm saying and talking about something completely different while pretending it's relevant. Usually that completely separate point reinforces what I'm saying in the first place like it does here too 

You mean the court filing that was a one-sided sham case in the Chinese courts (one where Coridel didn't even get a chance to attend trial and where they dragged in Jessica's name to exert pressure) about a contract dispute which was later completely and amicably settled between Coridel and the Chinese company? Lol.

 

You keep alleging "fraud" and "criminal activity" based on this and previous posts of yours but there is zero evidence of this. It is nonsense. The other issues were all resolved and have long been closed, so not really sure what the relevance of these stale and weak comments about past business disputes actually is, other than a lame sideshow to distract from the fact you still have zero evidence for your initial claims that she failed to "prioritize" the group.

 

You keep claiming I'm ignoring you, when I've asked like 4 times for evidence to back up your claims and every single reply, you have failed to do this.

 

As for "standing by" Tyler...it's rumored they've already broken up this year, so

 

20 minutes ago, Sheep said:

 

TTS was born out of a Korean hiatus period for the group the girls all agreed to while Yoona was working on Spring Rain.  Why didn't Jessica launch her tacky jeans and sunglasses then? Members(including Jessica) participated in many different solo activities during this period.

They were promoting TTS in 2014 at the same time you were attacking Jessica for daring to also have solo projects. She was also getting her own subunit, so it can't be one rule for your favored members and then another for the one you irrationally hate.

 

20 minutes ago, Sheep said:

 

A Janon accusing somebody else of falling for lies. The projecting 

You have fallen for lies, it must be a difficult reality sweetie but it's not too late to admit the errors. 

 

Parroting SM's mediaplay lies, falsely accusing Jessica of illegality and digging up past and resolved business disputes in a misguided attempt to bring down her character, instead of just admitting you have no real basis or evidence for going to these lengths to attack her, other than your own personal irrational hatred, is just not the best look. It doesn't sound very fun 

 

Edited May 17 by Zack

[MonsterNavy]

1 minute ago, Odette Violet said:

sorry what? 

 

 

repent 

I mean the chorus part. the girls literally have to bend and break  they did it gracefully but the choreo is not easy

[Eternium]

43 minutes ago, Sheep said:

SNSD had plenty of opportunities to earn money and her removal from the group was barely over a year after an(at the time) unprecedented extended group hiatus for some members to pursue solo work. Before their solo careers were the juggernauts that they are today members were already investing in real estate. 

They only had money from Goobne chicken, touring and Japan. Girl groups didn't make money until around 2011 and everyone thought it was a short term bundle. There's a reason every female artist was looking for a hustle.

43 minutes ago, Zack said:

What evidence. Provide it. 

Because all fingers point to the members and their parents influencing SM to exit her from the group. 

I'm sure Jessica may truly believe that, but it's absolute nonsense. If you think SM execs didn't purposefully turn everyone against one member just so they wouldn't lose their ability to profit off of the group, you're just not being realistic. The writing was on the wall when she set to own B&E instead of making it a joint venture with SM getting a significant portion.

 

If it was SNSD's fault, why would SM basically fold f(x) and shelve Jessica's subunit project? The reality is SM will not support an artist in a major group with large earning potential that they cannot tap.

36 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

and keep Woojin's name off of your dry crusty lips

 

Imagine seeing SNSD members getting defamed yet choosing to defend a boy group member. Have some self respect.

35 minutes ago, Sheep said:

 

They wouldn't just kick her out of the group for zero reason.

 

It'll never not be funny seeing SM stans think that their faves get to decide who stays in the group and who goes  If SM was willing to get rid of Hiro, they'll literally dump anyone.

[MonsterNavy]

10 minutes ago, Cheers said:

post jaehyun

the thumbnail alone

 

face? sexy neck?

 

 

[Odette Violet]

Just now, MonsterNavy said:

I mean the chorus part. the girls literally have to bend and break  they did it gracefully but the choreo is not easy

It's SM Nation's GG thingz I guess 

 

[MonsterNavy]

lowkey bside of the year

 

 

[Cheers]

Dream blunt rotation:

 

Jay (ENGODPEN) - Shotaro (RIIZE) - The Cha Eunwoo - Jaehyun (NCT) - Taeyong (NCT) - Kai (EXO) - Wonbin (RIIZE) - San (ATEEZ) - Zhang Hao (ZB1) - Jiwoong (ZB1) - Jungkook (BTS)

 

Edited May 17 by Cheers