fan base K-Pop Thread: Taeyeon Sick of SM, Blasts Their Mismanagement

[motherpills]

has anyone figured out why SF9 are in the thread title or no?

[harrythevifan]

9 minutes ago, motherpills said:

has anyone figured out why SF9 are in the thread title or no?

Visual group.

 

[hallucinate]

1 hour ago, youresotoxic said:

 

hurrIUcane  poor our faves nnnn

[xrosup]

On 1/12/2024 at 1:43 PM, Mitsuki said:

 The Boyz beating Stray Kids in 2018 

 

SuperM in 2020 

 

 

 

And in the long run, Stray Kids ended up with all their albums released in 2018 outselling that one forgagatten TBZ album

 

THE BOYZ - THE ONLY

Format: 3rd Mini Album

Release Date: November 29th, 2018

Total Sales in South Korea (Circle): 168,072 copies sold

Source

 

 

Mixtape

Format: Pre-Debut

Release Date: January 8th, 2018

Total Sales in South Korea (Circle): 204,219 copies sold

 

I am NOT

Format: 1st Mini Album

Release Date: March 26th, 2018

Total Sales in South Korea (Circle): 340,020 copies sold

 

I am WHO

Format: 2nd Mini Album

Release Date: August 6th, 2018

Total Sales in South Korea (Circle): 312,601 copies sold

 

I am YOU

Format: 3rd Mini Album

Release Date: October 22nd, 2018

Total Sales in South Korea (Circle): 343,005 copies sold

 

Source

[Gaia]

People still saying 2018-2019 debuts are 4th gen  

 

They are 3.5 gen that last into 4th gen. Same with Apink and AOA not being considered 3rd gen but 2.5 gen that lasted will into 3rd gen. 
 

3rd gen was not some 4 year generation  

Edited January 14 by Gaia

[Eternium]

5 minutes ago, Gaia said:

People still saying 2018-2019 debuts are 4th gen  

 

They are 3.5 gen that last into 4th gen. Same with Apink and AOA not being considered 3rd gen but 2.5 gen that lasted will into 3rd gen. 
 

3rd gen was not some 4 year generation  

AOA is 3rd gen. They’re not part of the 2.5 gen girlies.

 

The gens change based on when the major companies launch their flagship groups. G-IDLE is CUBE’s flagship 4th Gen group just like BabyMonster is YG’s.

[illia]

This .5 gen thing is so stupid and unserious

[MusicFan98]

3 hours ago, WeFoundWill said:

the decline  

Everyone declines in the long run

[cloudbusting]

truly the greatest kpop account 

[ItsJustMe.]

 

[getinthezone]

2 hours ago, Zack said:

Lol at her saying "no more trucks". I bet SM blames the girls for it whenever the trucks show up

 

how does she look different every time i see her

[illia]

5 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

 

Ahhhhh try not to say mother challenge (FAILED)

[TheCal]

10 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

 

[youresotoxic]

 

[Eternium]

53 minutes ago, illia said:

This .5 gen thing is so stupid and unserious

It basically lets you know if your fave is a priority for their company or not. f(x) and Miss A are perfect examples - they only got to really be active when SNSD/WG were away. A .5 group is basically filler, no matter how good they are.

[Save-Me-Oprah]

2 hours ago, Gaia said:

People still saying 2018-2019 debuts are 4th gen  

 

They are 3.5 gen that last into 4th gen. Same with Apink and AOA not being considered 3rd gen but 2.5 gen that lasted will into 3rd gen. 
 

3rd gen was not some 4 year generation  

Girl, the way you keep saying this doesn’t make it any more true

 

[Xalric]

5 hours ago, Adama said:

They sampled a song but I can’t remember which one ? 

 

Brown Eyed Girls L.o.v.e

[Gaia]

3 hours ago, Eternium said:

AOA is 3rd gen. They’re not part of the 2.5 gen girlies.

 

The gens change based on when the major companies launch their flagship groups. G-IDLE is CUBE’s flagship 4th Gen group just like BabyMonster is YG’s.

This would make generations a completely useless thing to even talk about or consider. So if major companies launch groups every 2 years then generations are only 2 years?

 

AOA debuted in 2012 just like EXO and there is a reason their peak was around the start of 3rd gen but they didn't really have continued success far into 3rd gen (2014+). They were more 2.5 gen. 2nd gen groups were still going very strong both in Korea, Japan, and WW. AOA had already came and peaked by the time BP even debuted like  

 

You can't sit here and try and say 3rd gen started in 2012 while SNSD, Kara, WG, Bigbang, 2NE1, SISTAR, Secret, T-ara, etc. were all utterly smashing. There was no shift in generation. Meanwhile in 2013 beyond you could start to see the once dominating groups start to fall off in digital sales and what not compared to the past. A major group debut is not an automatic generation change. That just sounds nonsensical. 

 

2nd gen start: Bigbang, SNSD, Kara, Wonder Girls all debuted in 2006-2007 

3rd gen start: BTS, RV, MMM, and TWICE all debuted in 2013-2015 

4th gen start: aespa, IVE, STAYC, LSRFM, NJ, debuted in 2020-2022 

 

Logically:

 

2nd Gen: 2006-2012 [~7 years]

- 2.5 Gen: 2010-2012 debuts

3rd Gen: 2013-2019 [~7 years]

- 3.5 Gen: 2018-2019 debuts

4th Gen: 2020-current

 

Edited January 14 by Gaia

[Sailor Moon]

1 hour ago, Eternium said:

It basically lets you know if your fave is a priority for their company or not. f(x) and Miss A are perfect examples - they only got to really be active when SNSD/WG were away. A .5 group is basically filler, no matter how good they are.

 

 

[Xalric]

4 hours ago, Gaia said:

People still saying 2018-2019 debuts are 4th gen  

 

They are 3.5 gen that last into 4th gen. Same with Apink and AOA not being considered 3rd gen but 2.5 gen that lasted will into 3rd gen. 
 

3rd gen was not some 4 year generation  

People following what the people in the industry have been saying. Just how we're in Gen 5 and New Jeans started it.

[Mattheo]

new jeans 5th gen now?

i have seen it all

 

we should just abolish the generations talk tbh

[fauxtography]

4 minutes ago, Mattheo said:

new jeans 5th gen now?

i have seen it all

 

we should just abolish the generations talk tbh

Tea. The way we went from 3rd gen to 5th gen basically. 

[Sailor Moon]

Wait I thought zerobaseone started the 5th gen

 

 

LE SSERAFIM literally debuted a month before newjeans and they are 4th gen.

[Mel.]

1 year ago today Ahyeon was introduced 

 

 

 

[Xalric]

7 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said:

Wait I thought zerobaseone started the 5th gen

 

 

LE SSERAFIM literally debuted a month before newjeans and they are 4th gen.

Everyone wants to media play how they started the gen5, but New Jeans impact is way too big to say it happened after them. They literally had the gays made around their concept their debut year.