Gorjesspazze9 Posted October 28 Posted October 28 59 minutes ago, Pluto6 said: Speaking of RIIZE, the new transcript published today reveals that HYBE didn't hold back in criticizing Wonbin, taking jabs at his height, looks and talents Did they mention SNSD? I need to know before I cause Drama 5
getinthezone Posted October 28 Posted October 28 yall need to calm down with the hybe ****, other companies prob arent much better 1 1 1
SchmoodRing Posted October 28 Posted October 28 Can AESPA for love of God give Prologue, Licorice, Melody, Long Chat, Regret Of The Times and Aenergy the chop and PLEASE ADD Better Things, Hot Mess and Zoom Zoom 1
Save-Me-Oprah Posted October 28 Posted October 28 54 minutes ago, OrgVisual said: Are those INTERNAL REPORTS or just kii kii from employees' group chat though? Like if this thread got audited, none of us would come out as an angel. Just saying ???? speak for yourself 2
Save-Me-Oprah Posted October 28 Posted October 28 14 minutes ago, Bewitched said: In what world is this a mini album South Korea has already been pushing the limits of what can be considered an "album" with the inexplicable concept of "single album" (which doesn't exist anywhere else in the world) and 6-track "albums" that in any other world would be an EP... now they're pushing the limits of what can be considered an EP we need to come up with standards before someone gets hurt 3
discreetinside Posted October 28 Posted October 28 53 minutes ago, Pluto6 said: Where did you get that from? I don't think this is true It's a rumor that has been existed since 2023 no one taking seriously because how ridiculous it was even for myself. Come to think of it after the expose I wouldn't be very surprised if this rumor somehow end up being true because well capitalism everyone wants to own the huge profitable asset like SKZ https://ineedtorant.quora.com/HYBE-IS-EMBARASSING
Save-Me-Oprah Posted October 28 Posted October 28 27 minutes ago, JonginBey said: You're losing the plot.
Sheep Posted October 28 Posted October 28 18 minutes ago, getinthezone said: yall need to calm down with the hybe ****, other companies prob arent much better All companies have skeletons in their closets(JYP cult, LSM literally asking to be called korea's Godfather, YG human trafficking/prostitution accusations) but this is particularly bizarre because the idol groups are normally a front for a problem, this time the issues are actual music business practices. Even at the bitter height of the 2nd gen SM vs YG rivalry nothing like this happened. Piggyman Bang has clearly set an exceptionally toxic culture. The Scooter Braun investment makes so much sense now. 5
Save-Me-Oprah Posted October 28 Posted October 28 There is no way Hybe tried to "buy" Stray Kids out from under JYPE I'm sorry sometimes skzsters get too high on their own supply
Sheep Posted October 28 Posted October 28 21 minutes ago, SchmoodRing said: Can AESPA for love of God give Prologue, Licorice, Melody, Long Chat, Regret Of The Times and Aenergy the chop and PLEASE ADD Better Things, Hot Mess and Zoom Zoom You kinda ate that 1
Save-Me-Oprah Posted October 28 Posted October 28 Maybe Hybe's long-con was to drive Riize's value down to essentially zero so they could buy them out from under SM cracked that code
Selenasworld Posted October 28 Posted October 28 8 hours ago, MusicFan98 said: Lol, the other BP songs are atrocious, i don't like APT either but the hook is catchy AF so props to Rosé for not releasing a super basic song and booking that Bruno Collab. I appreciate the Jennifer and Lizard for serving quality this one from Rose is a no for me no substance or whatever 1
OrgVisual Posted October 28 Posted October 28 1 minute ago, Sheep said: All companies have skeletons in their closets(JYP cult, LSM literally asking to be called korea's Godfather, YG human trafficking/prostitution accusations) but this is particularly bizarre because the idol groups are normally a front for a problem, this time the issues are actual music business practices. Even at the bitter height of the 2nd gen SM vs YG rivalry nothing like this happened. Piggyman Bang has clearly set an exceptionally toxic culture. The Scooter Braun investment makes so much sense now. Please. How did you think T-ARA's scandal blew up the way it did if not because the other companies tried to fuel the fire? And the countless stupid scandals like "Goo Hara threw a bottle", "Hyosung being a member of an alt-right forum"... and the infamous black ocean against SNSD upon their debut 1 2
Odette Violet Posted October 28 Posted October 28 thee performers whiplash on my 100th plays. The way it keeps better every listens what kind of crack they put on 6
Sheep Posted October 28 Posted October 28 (edited) 16 minutes ago, OrgVisual said: Please. How did you think T-ARA's scandal blew up the way it did if not because the other companies tried to fuel the fire? And the countless stupid scandals like "Goo Hara threw a bottle", "Hyosung being a member of an alt-right forum"... and the infamous black ocean against SNSD upon their debut I mean all of these, especially T-ARA and the black ocean can be pinned on toxic fan culture as a whole, rather than targeted interference. Let's not forget that the SM and DSP fans were literally scrapping outside of music shows during gen 1 T-ARA had all of the newly minted global kpop fans on their neck for making the global GGs look bad, SNSD had the anti-SM weirdos AND the 2nd/3rd most powerful BG fandom against them, once backlash becomes big enough, people love joining in to be a part of tearing somebody down its basic human psychology. I'm a VIP/Blackjack, I know a thing or two about bogus scandals Media play has always been a huge part of kpop but considering that these companies can hardly keep a lid on the seriously heinous crimes top members are committing, something as wide-spread and as nasty as company memos dictating how to properly dominate fanwars would have leaked out over a decade ago. There's been plenty of cracks in the facade of the big 3 before that would have been a great time for whistleblowers to come forward with accusations, but they haven't to this level. Edited October 28 by Sheep 1
Odette Violet Posted October 28 Posted October 28 Supernova - Arma - Whiplash set list is going to wild during year end music shows and awards Drama is turning 1 year this Nov but Iettuce pray they will add it and perform it still somehow. The song was the pivotal point of their career, performance and musicality 2
Sheep Posted October 28 Posted October 28 (edited) Even HYBE's business model is fundamentally different from the big 3 with their constant cycle of attracting foreign investors with their big growth, using that investment to take on MASSIVE debt to purchase competitors, and then using the revenue growth from purchases they can't afford to attract new investors. It's basically a ponzi scheme. So not to defend the JYPigs and YGlys but yes, actually the big 3 ARE different. HYBE has an(officially reported, we now know their published numbers are full of intentional accounting errors) ENORMOUS $723m US Dollar debt. This company is fundamentally different in how it operates compared to the big 3. For comparison reported debt figures for the big 3: JYP - ~$7m YG - ~$10m SM - ~$88m(this tracks after a massive corporate restructuring + building out the new pd centers overnight + the buyouts) Edited October 28 by Sheep 2
Pluto6 Posted October 28 Posted October 28 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said: Did they mention SNSD? I need to know before I cause Drama Not relevant enough, sorry bestie Spoiler Just kidding The report is allegedly thousands of pages, and only 20 pages have been released publicly so far, so there might be chance that SNSD might be mentioned. You might need to prepare yourself to fight and cause drama these coming days, as more pages are getting released daily Edited October 28 by Pluto6 1
Sheep Posted October 28 Posted October 28 4 minutes ago, Pluto6 said: Not relevant enough, sorry bestie Reveal hidden contents Just kidding The report is allegedly thousands of pages, and only 20 pages have been released publicly so far, so there might be chance that SNSD might be mentioned. You might need to prepare yourself to fight and cause drama these coming days, as more pages are getting released daily HYBE isn't ready for KTRL to march on their hq when the soshi files are released Spoiler 2
Sheep Posted October 28 Posted October 28 Wait the HYBE numbers are even worse than I thought. How are you going to be a billion dollars in debt and your hope to pay all that back is even lower profit margins than the company that isn't relevant in the west.
Pluto6 Posted October 28 Posted October 28 40 minutes ago, discreetinside said: It's a rumor that has been existed since 2023 no one taking seriously because how ridiculous it was even for myself. Come to think of it after the expose I wouldn't be very surprised if this rumor somehow end up being true because well capitalism everyone wants to own the huge profitable asset like SKZ https://ineedtorant.quora.com/HYBE-IS-EMBARASSING This is just random TikToks made by random people with barely 3K likes. Basically conspiracy theories. HYBE never wanted to buy SKZ, let's be serious 32 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said: There is no way Hybe tried to "buy" Stray Kids out from under JYPE I'm sorry sometimes skzsters get too high on their own supply I have nothing to do with that so stfu
OrbitNumber1 Posted October 28 Posted October 28 You guys are fooling yourselves if you think HYBE is the evil agency and the other ones are benevolent. For one, the whole talking about minors' appearance is not exclusive to them, we have years of former trainees reporting how they would have their weight judged on a daily basis and receive suggestions of plastic surgeries. SM especially is well known for this practice. 1 1
Odette Violet Posted October 29 Posted October 29 (edited) 45 minutes ago, OrbitNumber1 said: You guys are fooling yourselves if you think HYBE is the evil agency and the other ones are benevolent. For one, the whole talking about minors' appearance is not exclusive to them, we have years of former trainees reporting how they would have their weight judged on a daily basis and receive suggestions of plastic surgeries. SM especially is well known for this practice. literally no one is saying this? lmao. Sheep has just commented the crimes of BIG 3 11 post above yours but you seems to either ignored or failed reading that Edited October 29 by Odette Violet 1
Pluto6 Posted October 29 Posted October 29 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said: Maybe Hybe's long-con was to drive Riize's value down to essentially zero so they could buy them out from under SM cracked that code There is no way Hybe tried to "buy" RIIZE out from under SM I'm sorry sometimes RIIZEsters get too high on their own supply Spoiler Inspiration: 59 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said: There is no way Hybe tried to "buy" Stray Kids out from under JYPE I'm sorry sometimes skzsters get too high on their own supply Edited October 29 by Pluto6 4
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