fan base K-Pop Thread: Seunghan to Make Solo Debut in late 2025

[Zack]

7 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

yeah... idk all of these are bad but tbh they only impact the popularity of the comeback among the kpop fans niche?? almost none of these have impact on the mainstream success with the public. 

It does impact the public, because if there's no comeback teasing/promotion and barely any time to let people know a comeback is coming, then less people are going to know that they are releasing anything. Otherwise, only RV/K-Pop fans would know. Most public outside of the fandoms didn't know it was releasing.

 

There's a reason the trend settled on comebacks normally having at least 3-4 weeks of announcement time, it's to allow news to circulate that a comeback is coming and increase public interest. These are also basic management actions which SM seems to easily do for other groups (including older ones than RV), so why not RV? 

 

I'm not saying they are still at peak popularity, but it doesn't help at all when their own company isn't doing the basic things.

 

Edited October 14 by Zack

[Zack]

KARINA is so close to RAK

 

 

[Nein]

 

Unrivalled.

[youresotoxic]

Red Velvet deserves to win... but we all know it'll be GI-DLE or Davichi 

PLAVE might have a chance since they've been frauds this whole time too

 

Edited October 14 by youresotoxic

[youresotoxic]

 

so so gorgeous, she looked and sounded amazing this whole tour so far 

Edited October 14 by youresotoxic

[Windy Day]

9 minutes ago, Zack said:

It does impact the public, because if there's no comeback teasing/promotion and barely any time to let people know a comeback is coming, then less people are going to know that they are releasing anything. Otherwise, only RV/K-Pop fans would know. Most public outside of the fandoms didn't know it was releasing.

 

There's a reason the trend settled on comebacks normally having at least 3-4 weeks of announcement time, it's to allow news to circulate that a comeback is coming and increase public interest. These are also basic management actions which SM seems to easily do for other groups (including older ones than RV), so why not RV?

SM just released aespa's solo songs with 0 promo and an announcement a few days prior and karina went #1 effortlessly because the interest for her domestically is huge and she's one of the most popular celebrities and a member of one of the top kpop acts atm. promoting an album a month prior with a bunch of useless gimmicks is only targeting the stans, please. do you care about artists from your country releasing photoshoots every single day and having preorders up?  trust me people dgaf. some pictures from the teasers might go viral but that's it. and even that is rare. songs either take off because the group itself is already popular or because they go on shows that go viral AFTER the comeback. even feel my rhythm smashed because the song itself went viral AFTER the release. not because of the month long gimmicks prior lmfao

 

if you're talking about the popularity of the comeback among the kpop niche, then yeah, they could have done a better job. with normal people who have a fried attention span and better things to do with their days than keep up with twitter posts? (people in korea barely even use twitter) then there was nothing they could have done except sending them to viral youtube shows

Edited October 14 by Windy Day

[OrgVisual]

3 minutes ago, youresotoxic said:

Red Velvet deserves to win... but we all know it'll be GI-DLE or Davichi 

 

Not an AI group being nominated for Vocal   

And did GI get nominated just because they released a midtempo/ballad? There's nothing vocally impressive about that song

[Antunes]

perfect timing to start teasing the new girl group and shelve fad velvet 

[OrgVisual]

3 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

SM just released aespa's solo songs with 0 promo and an announcement a few days prior and karina went #1 effortlessly because the interest for her domestically is huge and she's one of the most popular celebrities and a member of one of the top kpop acts atm. promoting an album a month prior with a bunch of useless gimmicks is only targeting the stans, please. do you care about artists from your country releasing photoshoots every single day and having preorders up?  trust me people dgaf. some pictures from the teasers might go viral but that's it. and even that is rare. songs either take off because the group itself is already popular or because they go on shows that go viral AFTER the comeback. even feel my rhythm smashed because the song itself went viral AFTER the release. not because of the month long gimmicks prior lmfao

 

if you're talking about the popularity of the comeback among the kpop niche, then yeah, they could have done a better job. with normal people who have a fried attention span and better things to do with their days than keep up with twitter posts? (people in korea barely even use twitter) then there was nothing they could have done except sending them to viral youtube shows

There are tons of promotions required to make a single successful, especially with how Kpop typically works - building hype so it's a smash right upon release. Of course sometimes u get lucky when it goes viral organically (EXID etc.) but promotions are much needed and that include billboards, tv ads, app ads, tiktok ads, Instagram ads, brand collabs, sponsorships etc. And fans can only see things that they can see (teaser, video, spotify placement etc.) but you can tell there's 0 marketing plan in place for "Cosmic". Even the members had to voice their dissatisfaction and spoiled the comeback themselves because nothing has been done just week prior to the scheduled comeback

[youresotoxic]

 

this is SOOOO good, they truly deserve more recognition 

[Zack]

14 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

SM just released aespa's solo songs with 0 promo and an announcement a few days prior and karina went #1 effortlessly because the interest for her domestically is huge and she's one of the most popular celebrities and a member of one of the top kpop acts atm. promoting an album a month prior with a bunch of useless gimmicks is only targeting the stans, please. do you care about artists from your country releasing photoshoots every single day and having preorders up?  trust me people dgaf. some pictures from the teasers might go viral but that's it. and even that is rare. songs either take off because the group itself is already popular or because they go on shows that go viral AFTER the comeback. even feel my rhythm smashed because the song itself went viral AFTER the release. not because of the month long gimmicks prior lmfao

 

if you're talking about the popularity of the comeback among the kpop niche, then yeah, they could have done a better job. with normal people who have a fried attention span and better things to do with their days than keep up with twitter posts? (people in korea barely even use twitter) then there was nothing they could have done except sending them to viral youtube shows

The aespa solos are just a special digital single that SM released, it's not comparable. 

 

All of aespa's albums get multiple weeks/month of pre-orders/announcement, not only 13 days, so what you're saying doesn't even make sense because it's exactly what SM does for aespa. And I'm not getting into a comparison battle about that anyway. 

 

You already said you're not familiar with how RV is handled by SM and it seems you're just trying to dismiss the issues, which even the members themselves have been openly unhappy about/dragging the company. I believe them.

 

OT: And for the record, Feel My Rhythm already smashed on release (BEFORE JOY's part went viral) so that's not true either.

 

 

Edited October 14 by Zack

[harrythevifan]

7 minutes ago, OrgVisual said:

Not an AI group being nominated for Vocal   

It's not AI, it's CGI.  There's like actual failed idols who voice that thing, and Xalric should be posting their names shortly, so it's just as legit as the rest of the nominated vocal processing.

 

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[Dialamba]

25 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

SM just released aespa's solo songs with 0 promo and an announcement a few days prior and karina went #1 effortlessly because the interest for her domestically is huge and she's one of the most popular celebrities and a member of one of the top kpop acts atm. promoting an album a month prior with a bunch of useless gimmicks is only targeting the stans, please. do you care about artists from your country releasing photoshoots every single day and having preorders up?  trust me people dgaf. some pictures from the teasers might go viral but that's it. and even that is rare. songs either take off because the group itself is already popular or because they go on shows that go viral AFTER the comeback. even feel my rhythm smashed because the song itself went viral AFTER the release. not because of the month long gimmicks prior lmfao

 

if you're talking about the popularity of the comeback among the kpop niche, then yeah, they could have done a better job. with normal people who have a fried attention span and better things to do with their days than keep up with twitter posts? (people in korea barely even use twitter) then there was nothing they could have done except sending them to viral youtube shows

Aespa is the worst example they do well because their promo is great, and they have top tier teases, there are reasons why girls era didn't that well compared to savage. 

[Dialamba]

1 hour ago, dangerlady said:

Misamo:

Line Real Time: #1

Shazam Japan: #5

Amazon Music: #37

I don't understand the huge difference in ranking between spotify and apple music. 

 

 

Because onces don't do mass streaming. Jimin was charting high on Spotify Japan and but was N/A on others platforms. 

[Windy Day]

2 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

Aespa is the worst example they do well because their promo is great, and they have top tier teases, there are reasons why girls era didn't that well compared to savage. 

karina's solo had 0 promo except a few tiktok and people barley use tiktok here

 

and girls flopped because it was a bad song. there's a reason why illusion smashed despite being a SURPRISE RELEASE! thanks for reminding me 

[Butters]

9 hours ago, New Edition said:

Part of the problem is that the RIIZE members are pus7sys too.

 

New Jeans staged a guerilla live stream on YouTube, talking about how Hybe had done them wrong and demanding that Hybe reinstate MHJ as Ador. Whether you agree with them or not, they were gangsters for that shi*t.

 

Meanwhile, these MEN in their 20s are so afraid of their company and their fans they can't say **** and stand ten toes down for their supposed brother. Wonbin gave a wishy-washy Weverse that was so vague and scared, that people thought the company forced him to write it or wrote it for him. He should have said SHUT THE FU*CK UP THAT'S MY BRO.

 

Men continue to be the weakest link at the end of the day. Look at how many FEMALE idols support New Jeans out in the open. MEANWHILE, Jungkook was so scared he had to put up some vague ass post under his dog's Instagram that can be interpreted so liberally that some people thought it was about bisexuality awareness. In contrast, others thought it was about Red Velvet  Korean male idols are scared, pathetic PUSS&ys.

 

Like if you need to slap some of these crazy unhinged people do it like Yamazaki Kento.

NewJeans have overwhelming support from the Korean public and those who publicly side with them get showered with praise. Seunghan and OT7… does not. Wonbin was tarred and feathered by Koreans for that middling Bubble post, it's sad but I'm not surprised that they haven't been able to speak out. At the end of the day, the vast majority of these idols' actions are contingent on the reactions that their management anticipate from the public. If they don't think their actions will get them a beneficial response from them, they're going to play it safe and stay mum. 99% of the time.

[Gaia]

29 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

SM just released aespa's solo songs with 0 promo and an announcement a few days prior and karina went #1 effortlessly because the interest for her domestically is huge and she's one of the most popular celebrities and a member of one of the top kpop acts atm. promoting an album a month prior with a bunch of useless gimmicks is only targeting the stans, please. do you care about artists from your country releasing photoshoots every single day and having preorders up?  trust me people dgaf. some pictures from the teasers might go viral but that's it. and even that is rare. songs either take off because the group itself is already popular or because they go on shows that go viral AFTER the comeback. even feel my rhythm smashed because the song itself went viral AFTER the release. not because of the month long gimmicks prior lmfao

 

if you're talking about the popularity of the comeback among the kpop niche, then yeah, they could have done a better job. with normal people who have a fried attention span and better things to do with their days than keep up with twitter posts? (people in korea barely even use twitter) then there was nothing they could have done except sending them to viral youtube shows

Promotion matters a lot what are you talking about and it is always dependent on the effort the company wants to put into it. 
 

Look at SNSD's 10th anniversary comeback (where SM purposely sabotaged it with minimal promo due to contract negotiations with the girls — something SM is known to do).

Compare that to SNSD's 15th anniversary comeback where there was no drama but also jointly handled between SM and the external members companies. 
 

SNSD was on literally every single variety show possible, doing viral marketing, news about their comeback plastered everywhere and unsurprisingly… they got a hit from it. 
 

SM does the absolute bare minimum with RV. It is entirely the companies fault for crap promotion. 

 

[youresotoxic]

SM does nothing for RV and that's the end of discussion 

the amount of things that have gone wrong with their comebacks is insane

 

[Windy Day]

25 minutes ago, OrgVisual said:

There are tons of promotions required to make a single successful, especially with how Kpop typically works - building hype so it's a smash right upon release. Of course sometimes u get lucky when it goes viral organically (EXID etc.) but promotions are much needed and that include billboards, tv ads, app ads, tiktok ads, Instagram ads, brand collabs, sponsorships etc. And fans can only see things that they can see (teaser, video, spotify placement etc.) but you can tell there's 0 marketing plan in place for "Cosmic". Even the members had to voice their dissatisfaction and spoiled the comeback themselves because nothing has been done just week prior to the scheduled comeback

 

22 minutes ago, Zack said:

The aespa solos are just a special digital single that SM released, it's not comparable. 

 

All of aespa's albums get multiple weeks/month of pre-orders/announcement, not only 13 days, so what you're saying doesn't even make sense because it's exactly what SM does for aespa. And I'm not getting into a comparison battle about that anyway. 

 

You already said you're not familiar with how RV is handled by SM and it seems you're just trying to dismiss the issues, which even the members themselves have been openly unhappy about/dragging the company. I believe them.

 

OT: And for the record, Feel My Rhythm already smashed on release (BEFORE JOY's part went viral) so that's not true either.

 

 

it's 2024, not 2017 lmfao. normal people don't give a single ****. trust me. "tiktok ads" when people in korea don't even use tiktok? are yall talking about the korean GP or intl fans?? pls make some sense lmao

 

the song was played a lot in korea, people just dont care about red velvet, and i say that as a fan. please move on!

 

Spoiler

the way i know one of the members of the team behind cosmic too… 

 

[Windy Day]

2 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Promotion matters a lot what are you talking about and it is always dependent on the effort the company wants to put into it. 
 

Look at SNSD's 10th anniversary comeback (where SM purposely sabotaged it with minimal promo due to contract negotiations with the girls — something SM is known to do).

Compare that to SNSD's 15th anniversary comeback where there was no drama but also jointly handled between SM and the external members companies. 
 

SNSD was on literally every single variety show possible, doing viral marketing, news about their comeback plastered everywhere and unsurprisingly… they got a hit from it. 
 

SM does the absolute bare minimum with RV. It is entirely the companies fault for crap promotion. 

 

ok, what does appearing on variety has to do with having no japanese fanclub? 

[hallucinate]

apparently the STAYC comeback is a digital single, hopefully we get an official announcement in 1-2 days 

Edited October 14 by hallucinate

[youresotoxic]

Just now, hallucinate said:

apparently the STAYC comeback this month is a digital single, hopefully we get an official announcement soon 

a digital single..........

no wonder they haven't announced it yet

 

[Doogle]

35 minutes ago, Antunes said:

perfect timing to start teasing the new girl group and shelve fad velvet 

This should result in a perma ban  

[youresotoxic]

https://weverse.io/stayc/notice/22941

 

@hallucinate they just announced Digital single Oct 30th, Album release in Feb 2025, and Tour in Apr 2025