montacelo Posted Friday at 08:34 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:34 PM You can't really compare 2nd and 3rd gens, the market was way different for k-pop for both generations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseline Posted Friday at 08:34 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:34 PM ILLIT first released the music video for "Magnetic" on March 25 at 6 p.m. KST, meaning that it took 86 days, 17 hours, and 30 minutes to hit 100 million views. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xalric Posted Friday at 08:37 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:37 PM I'm sorry but I don't to bring negativity but the whole puberty thing is too much for him... Lee Yedam 3 years ago on LOUD NOWADAYS in ONEPACT Like this is the same person 3 years apart, but they don't look at all alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montacelo Posted Friday at 08:38 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:38 PM Anyways, Right Now is still that BOP supernatural is cute I guess Weird that they decided to include english and korean for a Japanese debut should have just stuck to two tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat1867 Posted Friday at 08:39 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:39 PM 10 minutes ago, Zack said: He has been on hiatus for "anxiety" and "worsening health" and is trying to recover. He is not going to respond in the same way a healthy person might respond when faced with harassing and stalking calls and personal privacy breaches, so I think Knetz also really need to cut him some slack. They are well known for giving harsh criticisms to idols often unnecessarily which can have very damaging impacts on mental health. Like I said, it's a wider conversation for K-Pop in general that extends beyond this particular issue. It's unfortunate this girl was seemingly innocently caught up in this incident, but it never would have happened had the sasaengs listened and stopped and/or SM controlled the situation with the sasaengs and had SM given RENJUN the support he obviously needs. I think it's wrong that SM has passed all the blame to him when they know he is unwell. Oh yeah I am not endorsing knetz behavior. they suck and cause so much harm . i have sympathy for him and understand his actions but that doesn't mean his choices were good. however, nct stans need to stop trying to litigate the issue and stop the harassment. the best thing for him would be for this story to die due to no more further developments. stans defending him will only makes things worse when there is a minor involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romiskes Posted Friday at 08:42 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:42 PM 2 minutes ago, getinthezone said: they always rewrite history The Boys was released October 19, it didn't have enough time to reach top 10 on digital year-ends (it still reached top 50 which is impressive considering they've had like 8 weeks of tracking), but it sure did top the albums one. The one and only girlgroup charting. 7 minutes ago, Pluto6 said: Didn't 2NE1 perform better digitally though like way better? I know that SNSD are the biggest gg of 2nd gen etc., but I don't think the gap between the 2 groups is that big? The term "being miles ahead of everyone" only fits groups like BTS and BLACKPINK Not really, both were digital monsters, the thing is that the circle (Former Gaon) chart only started in 2010, so a lot of SNSD smash hits won't have numbers in that metric (Gee, Kissing You, Genie, etc). SNSD was miles ahead of other groups, they were not only the top girlgroup, all the members were actually super relevant (which wasn't the regular deal, as in most groups you would have only 1 super popular member and the rest was just average) and active in the entertainment industry, hence why they all have sucessful jobs up until now, while most of the other groups barely have 1-2 members doing anything. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montacelo Posted Friday at 08:47 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:47 PM 3 minutes ago, romiskes said: The Boys was released October 19, it didn't have enough time to reach top 10 on digital year-ends (it still reached top 50 which is impressive considering they've had like 8 weeks of tracking), but it sure did top the albums one. The one and only girlgroup charting. Not really, both were digital monsters, the thing is that the circle (Former Gaon) chart only started in 2010, so a lot of SNSD smash hits won't have numbers in that metric (Gee, Kissing You, Genie, etc). SNSD was miles ahead of other groups, they were not only the top girlgroup, all the members were actually super relevant (which wasn't the regular deal, as in most groups you would have only 1 super popular member and the rest was just average) and active in the entertainment industry, hence why they all have sucessful jobs up until now, while most of the other groups barely have 1-2 members doing anything. Super impressive was Hoot being released at the end of October in 2010 and ending up at #10 in the year end chart. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustMe. Posted Friday at 09:00 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:00 PM ooh we stan! this sounds so good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainy Devil Posted Friday at 09:04 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:04 PM 14 minutes ago, romiskes said: The Boys was released October 19, it didn't have enough time to reach top 10 on digital year-ends (it still reached top 50 which is impressive considering they've had like 8 weeks of tracking), but it sure did top the albums one. The one and only girlgroup charting. Not really, both were digital monsters, the thing is that the circle (Former Gaon) chart only started in 2010, so a lot of SNSD smash hits won't have numbers in that metric (Gee, Kissing You, Genie, etc). SNSD was miles ahead of other groups, they were not only the top girlgroup, all the members were actually super relevant (which wasn't the regular deal, as in most groups you would have only 1 super popular member and the rest was just average) and active in the entertainment industry, hence why they all have sucessful jobs up until now, while most of the other groups barely have 1-2 members doing anything. Very well said. Being the top GG is not only about doing great on the singles chart. Even if SNSD was behind SISTAR and 2NE1 in that regard, they were way ahead with album sales, touring stats and group/individual recognition. And just like you said, that is part of the reason why most members are still active and getting success, even the ones out of SM. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainy Devil Posted Friday at 09:08 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:08 PM 17 minutes ago, montacelo said: Super impressive was Hoot being released at the end of October in 2010 and ending up at #10 in the year end chart. The song is good but the dance is my favorite thing about it tbh. One of the best examples of a properly well made choreo doing what it should: elevate the song. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romiskes Posted Friday at 09:29 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:29 PM 39 minutes ago, montacelo said: Super impressive was Hoot being released at the end of October in 2010 and ending up at #10 in the year end chart. It was an EVENT when they dropped Hoot against 2AM, they created a huge rivalry during the "Can't let you go even if i die" x "Oh!" round of promotions, this was their much expected round 2 and both groups excelled at it as expected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapperjennie Posted Friday at 09:32 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:32 PM Her fans moving like Arianators with everything theyre spoiling in advance, not with the dates?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted Friday at 09:40 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:40 PM 7 hours ago, Pluto6 said: Wake up, the track list is here! Not the title track being only 2:28 minutes though Stray Kids having a self titled song in the album as well @Mitsuki @xrosup THEY ARE FINALLY RELEASING A SONG CALLED STRAY KIDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted Friday at 09:42 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:42 PM @Pluto6 that account you posted getting it right, are they some kind of insider 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterNavy Posted Friday at 09:44 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:44 PM 1 hour ago, getinthezone said: they always rewrite history 1 hour ago, romiskes said: The Boys was released October 19, it didn't have enough time to reach top 10 on digital year-ends (it still reached top 50 which is impressive considering they've had like 8 weeks of tracking), but it sure did top the albums one. The one and only girlgroup charting. Not really, both were digital monsters, the thing is that the circle (Former Gaon) chart only started in 2010, so a lot of SNSD smash hits won't have numbers in that metric (Gee, Kissing You, Genie, etc). SNSD was miles ahead of other groups, they were not only the top girlgroup, all the members were actually super relevant (which wasn't the regular deal, as in most groups you would have only 1 super popular member and the rest was just average) and active in the entertainment industry, hence why they all have sucessful jobs up until now, while most of the other groups barely have 1-2 members doing anything. where do you see these lists on wiki? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapperjennie Posted Friday at 09:46 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:46 PM 2 minutes ago, Mitsuki said: @Pluto6 that account you posted getting it right, are they some kind of insider They basically know someone who works on MVs in kpop/the creatives Don't think they've ever teased anything about the songs, so probably just get stuff on sets or promotion images 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romiskes Posted Friday at 09:50 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:50 PM 4 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said: where do you see these lists on wiki? thanks Here: Circle Album Chart - Wikipedia Circle Digital Chart - Wikipedia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrythevifan Posted Friday at 09:51 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:51 PM 2 hours ago, Xalric said: XG influencing the girls. That Lalisa and XG can afford to shop from the same vendors yet another example of the fiery passion with which Max Matsuura hates kpop's global success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted Friday at 10:07 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:07 PM (edited) Gallup Survey 2010 ARTIST: 1. Girls' Generation SONGS: 1. Hoot 2. Oh! 2011 ARTIST: 1. Girls Generation SONGS: 2. Roly Poly 3. The Boys That's just Gallup. We are not even factoring other metrics like Forbes, concerts, CFs/brand deals, album sales, overall impact etc. Notice how some users can only come up with Digital/Gaon peaks to prove how this groups were supposedly on the same level or even bigger than SNSD No one is rewriting herstory here. It's just the Hags haters can't accept the fact and move on that SNSD were the #1 Group of their Generation and is still widely relevant today while their peers; N/A Edited Saturday at 01:43 AM by Odette Violet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xalric Posted Friday at 10:16 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:16 PM When I told you she should move there I was NOT joking. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted Friday at 10:18 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:18 PM Also comparing Blackpink/BTS to SNSD is like comparing Olivia Rodrigo/Billie to Beyoncé/Lady Gaga. Both are from different times and the market were pretty much smaller back then Blackpink or Stray cats wouldn't be pulling this numbers if they were to debut during 2nd Gen It's not that hard to comprehend 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainy Devil Posted Friday at 10:23 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:23 PM The Boys MV has reached 300M views on YT. What an iconic era. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterNavy Posted Friday at 10:29 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:29 PM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted Friday at 11:08 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:08 PM oh lawd here we go again 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterNavy Posted Friday at 11:09 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:09 PM 49 minutes ago, Odette Violet said: Blackpink wouldn't be pulling this numbers if they were to debut during 2nd Gen It's not that hard to comprehend you dont know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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