Windy Day Posted Saturday at 09:37 AM Posted Saturday at 09:37 AM 35 minutes ago, Odette Violet said: ?? performing on domes has standards now? people are paying to see their artists for different reasons, hope that helps some artists are not fit for stadium shows due to the lack of experience / stage presence. i've seen both aespa and red velvet in similar settings and aespa's stage presence was 1000 times bigger than when i saw red velvet who basically just stood there most of the time and missed the cue when the songs started i still love red velvet which is why i saw them more than once, but i don't think they're capable of commanding the stage of such a huge venue on their own. and it's okay! not every artist have to perform in mega venues 7 minutes ago, Xalric said: It's because they lack experience at actual concert. i agree and i think you're right. it's crazy because they have amazing vocals and amazing songs... but they just don't know what to do on stage most of the time 2
Odette Violet Posted Saturday at 09:45 AM Posted Saturday at 09:45 AM (edited) 8 minutes ago, Windy Day said: some artists are not fit for stadium shows due to the lack of experience / stage presence. i've seen both aespa and red velvet in similar settings and aespa's stage presence was 1000 times bigger than when i saw red velvet who basically just stood there most of the time and missed the cue when the songs started i still love red velvet which is why i saw them more than once, but i don't think they're capable of commanding the stage of such a huge venue on their own. and it's okay! not every artist have to perform in mega venues i agree and i think you're right. it's crazy because they have amazing vocals and amazing songs... but they just don't know what to do on stage most of the time again since when doing domes have specific standards on performing? like we literally just have the biggest tour of the century by an artist who have none of this things you mentioned at the end of the day it's going to be about music and Red Velvet won't certainly embarrass in that aspect + immaculate vocals Edited Saturday at 09:46 AM by Odette Violet 1
Red Velvet Posted Saturday at 09:54 AM Posted Saturday at 09:54 AM 1 hour ago, Xalric said: It's not that they didn't care but more to the fact they f*cked up Red Velvet from day 1... Cause what do you mean they had a Japanese Boycott at day 1 of their debut, because of SM Entertainment's incompetence. SM gave up on them in Japan after this It was 4 years after they decided to release a Japanese original song and named it "HASHTAG" cookiejar
Windy Day Posted Saturday at 10:34 AM Posted Saturday at 10:34 AM 47 minutes ago, Odette Violet said: again since when doing domes have specific standards on performing? like we literally just have the biggest tour of the century by an artist who have none of this things you mentioned at the end of the day it's going to be about music and Red Velvet won't certainly embarrass in that aspect + immaculate vocals well to answer your question, red velvet doesn't have the fanbase of the artist you hinted at so there's that and if i'm guessing that artist right, she's also getting dragged for her stage presence so
Windy Day Posted Saturday at 10:34 AM Posted Saturday at 10:34 AM 39 minutes ago, Red Velvet said: SM gave up on them in Japan after this It was 4 years after they decided to release a Japanese original song and named it "HASHTAG" cookiejar this bop 2
rhaenyra Posted Saturday at 10:42 AM Posted Saturday at 10:42 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Save-Me-Oprah said: Is it, though? An album's sales generally has nothing to do with its quality. Born Stink could be certified quadruple diamond and it'd still be full of stale Teddy tracks from 2016. Sales don't change that. Personal preferences are a thing, doesn't matter if 99 people in a room hate it, but even if 1 did that's all that counts It still doesn't erase the impact the group/their music left behind, while others only wish to surpass at least even a month's worth of their legacy True, sales aren't indicative of that but it's a great cherry on top of an already outstanding achievement Edited Saturday at 10:43 AM by rhaenyra
Sheep Posted Saturday at 10:43 AM Posted Saturday at 10:43 AM (edited) aespa 💅✨ and Red Velvet 👑🌟 are the ONLY 🗣️🔥 active groups 🏆 that matter right now 🔥💖. The rest? LMAO, stay mad 😭💀💅. Blackpink 💥? Overhyped 🙄🤚💯 and disbanded 💀👋. IVE 💥? Bland 🤐💤 and trying too hard 🥱🍓. The others? Just copying 🖤📸 what these QUEENS 🤖🍭🖥️👠already did better 🔥💫✨💥💥💥💥. Get in line 🚶♀️🚶♂️, nugus 🥱💀💥. aespa 💅🎤 and Red Velvet 👑🎶 are the REAL game-changers 🏆🌍 while you're out here looking like a clown 🤡🎪👀. Stay mad babes 😘💋👑💥💥💥💥💥. Edited Saturday at 10:45 AM by Sheep 1 5
Odette Violet Posted Saturday at 10:52 AM Posted Saturday at 10:52 AM (edited) 18 minutes ago, Windy Day said: well to answer your question, red velvet doesn't have the fanbase of the artist you hinted at so there's that if you could've just simply said that instead of going off with their stage presence that has absolutely nothing to do with it. That said Tokyo Dome have lost it's prestige and meaning over the years whilst Red Velvet has built their legacy and have earned their rightful place in Korean music with or without Tokyo Dome so there's that Edited Saturday at 10:53 AM by Odette Violet 2
Xalric Posted Saturday at 11:18 AM Posted Saturday at 11:18 AM Not but Ailee version of Fearless kinda HITS
Britney Jean Posted Saturday at 11:21 AM Posted Saturday at 11:21 AM The best she ever looked tbh, so pretty and gorgeous
K$Ellie Posted Saturday at 11:31 AM Posted Saturday at 11:31 AM aespa is kind of the best girl group of all time when you think about it 9
harrythevifan Posted Saturday at 11:32 AM Posted Saturday at 11:32 AM 3 minutes ago, Britney Jean said: The best she ever looked tbh, so pretty and gorgeous It's gotta be the hair. Yesterday was more classy. Compared to those tactical diaper shorts. 1
Windy Day Posted Saturday at 12:01 PM Posted Saturday at 12:01 PM 1 hour ago, Odette Violet said: if you could've just simply said that instead of going off with their stage presence that has absolutely nothing to do with it. That said Tokyo Dome have lost it's prestige and meaning over the years whilst Red Velvet has built their legacy and have earned their rightful place in Korean music with or without Tokyo Dome so there's that i can talk about their stage presence and i didn't say anything wrong. of course they can go and headline the tokyo dome if they have enough fans, just like i can say that their level of stage presence is not fit for such a big stage. i don't understand why you're so bothered every time someone make a slightly negative comment on the idols you like lol especially since i've seen red velvet in concert multiple times and felt like they couldn't command the stage the same way as their peers or even juniors and i can make constructive criticism about that and about one of my favorite kpop group ever without being biased. it still doesn't take away the fact that they're one of the most talented group in kpop and have a better discography than the majority of the groups lol 1 1
Windy Day Posted Saturday at 12:02 PM Posted Saturday at 12:02 PM 30 minutes ago, K$Ellie said: aespa is kind of the best girl group of all time when you think about it the way they literally have everything for themselves except good albums 1
Windy Day Posted Saturday at 12:07 PM Posted Saturday at 12:07 PM f(mothers) have been trending all day yesterday in korea. hopping to see this serve at SM's concert
Odette Violet Posted Saturday at 12:12 PM Posted Saturday at 12:12 PM (edited) 15 minutes ago, Windy Day said: i can talk about their stage presence and i didn't say anything wrong. of course they can go and headline the tokyo dome if they have enough fans, just like i can say that their level of stage presence is not fit for such a big stage. i don't understand why you're so bothered every time someone make a slightly negative comment on the idols you like lol especially since i've seen red velvet in concert multiple times and felt like they couldn't command the stage the same way as their peers or even juniors and i can make constructive criticism about that and about one of my favorite kpop group ever without being biased. it still doesn't take away the fact that they're one of the most talented group in kpop and have a better discography than the majority of the groups lol I need you to quote the times where I was bothered by anyone attacking my faves Idc if you've seen Red Velvet a couple of times, neither I was asking nor interested I was simply pointing out the fact they are mismanaged which kinda don't warrants your response about their stage presence like those wasn't even a question If you want to talk about their stage presence or your concert experience go ahead but don't quote me for it bc that wasn't my point at all hope that helps Edited Saturday at 12:17 PM by Odette Violet
K$Ellie Posted Saturday at 12:14 PM Posted Saturday at 12:14 PM 12 minutes ago, Windy Day said: the way they literally have everything for themselves except good albums Savage, My World, Whiplash and 70% of Armageddon tho
Windy Day Posted Saturday at 12:38 PM Posted Saturday at 12:38 PM 26 minutes ago, Odette Violet said: I need you to quote the times where I was bothered by anyone attacking my faves Idc if you've seen Red Velvet a couple of times, neither I was asking nor interested I was simply pointing out the fact they are mismanaged which kinda don't warrants your response about their stage presence like those wasn't even a question If you want to talk about their stage presence or your concert experience go ahead but don't quote me for it bc that wasn't my point at all hope that helps you're genuinely corny and weird 3
Windy Day Posted Saturday at 12:38 PM Posted Saturday at 12:38 PM 23 minutes ago, K$Ellie said: Savage, My World, Whiplash and 70% of Armageddon tho whiplash (the album) sucks 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 1
Odette Violet Posted Saturday at 12:41 PM Posted Saturday at 12:41 PM 1 minute ago, Windy Day said: you're genuinely corny and weird Right back at you next time don't @ me Imma need to update my ignore list
Windy Day Posted Saturday at 12:42 PM Posted Saturday at 12:42 PM Just now, Odette Violet said: Right back at you next time don't @ me Imma need to update my ignore list being corny and defensive because i expressed my thought by quoting you lmfao never mind, next time i'll just quote someone who isn't a parasocial freak 3
Odette Violet Posted Saturday at 12:44 PM Posted Saturday at 12:44 PM Just now, Windy Day said: being corny and defensive because i expressed my thought by quoting you lmfao never mind, next time i'll just quote someone who isn't a parasocial freak dn't throw stones when you live in glass houses yourself, bye
Windy Day Posted Saturday at 12:44 PM Posted Saturday at 12:44 PM can we discuss how this thread became **** because you literally cannot have a discussion with half of the members on here because they're terminally parasocial? 😭 2 2 3
oceans Posted Saturday at 12:46 PM Posted Saturday at 12:46 PM 31 minutes ago, K$Ellie said: 70% of Armageddon tho 1
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