TheCal Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 so who's dupe is this one i can't be bothered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 whats the diff between playlist reach and autoplay? they seem to be the most common when people discuss "payola" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrosup Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Just now, Darkling said: Anyway, I think a lot of international casual listeners fans of kpop might be taken aback from the recent scandals surrounding them and not willing to listen to their music anymore, but that's just a guess. Aside from the lack of push and promotions that HYBE can be inflicting on them, of course. The song beind mid doesn't help either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Now I wonder how LSRFM's next title track is going to chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendery Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Kinda need Starship to steal whatever tactics hybe are using cause IVE doing 700k makes no sense to me Just now, Mitsuki said: It has nothing to do with Payola. 'ETA' debuted with 2.61M global with 1.89M of playlisting reach, 'ASAP' 2.6M and 'Get Up' with 2.1M with much less since they were simple b-sides. 'How Sweet' had a mixed reaction from international community. To be honest, I wasn't expecting to do as good as their previous releases. ASAP is horrible tho and still did huge numbers They just simply aren't getting the same push or the scandal killed some of the hype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovemeTear Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 2 minutes ago, Darkling said: Anyway, I think a lot of international casual listeners fans of kpop might be taken aback from the recent scandals surrounding them and not willing to listen to their music anymore, but that's just a guess. Aside from the lack of push and promotions that HYBE can be inflicting on them, of course. They lost all their hybe company and success stan asslickers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Moon Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, Pikachu said: whats the diff between playlist reach and autoplay? they seem to be the most common when people discuss "payola" playlist reach is the amount of the playlist exposure the song has on playlists (the biggest one: top daily hits). autoplay is the song that automatically plays next after you finish a song. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainy Devil Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Wait, there were some users who keep saying HYBE payola in Spotify is one of the best since they really know how to playlist and work the autoplay feature in their favor and most of the thread threaten them really bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pikachu said: whats the diff between playlist reach and autoplay? they seem to be the most common when people discuss "payola" Playlist reach depends on a number of playlists the song is put on. The more playlists, the more people listening to the playlist would be able to come across the song => the bigger playlist reach Autoplay is kind of like the Spotify version of Youtube ads when the song randomly plays in your queue. Edited May 25 by illia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adama Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 8 minutes ago, Hendery said: ngl this kinda just confirms that hybe payola/push actually works I just want to see if they can make Katseye successful. It's going to be a bigger challenge Just now, Hendery said: Kinda need Starship to steal whatever tactics hybe are using cause IVE doing 700k makes no sense to me ASAP is horrible tho and still did huge numbers They just simply aren't getting the same push or the scandal killed some of the hype They did 1.129 million with a full day of tracking but yeah it's a mix of bad playlisting and the consequences of their previous era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkling Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rainy Devil said: Wait, there were some users who keep saying HYBE payola in Spotify is one of the best since they really know how to playlist and work the autoplay feature in their favor and most of the thread threaten them really bad. That's very different from "payola", also, spotify streams do not count as actual streams unless you listen to more than 30 seconds of the song. Edited May 25 by Darkling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkling Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 RIP Karl Marx you would have loved Karina 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dialamba Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3 minutes ago, Adama said: I just want to see if they can make Katseye successful. It's going to be a bigger challenge They did 1.129 million with a full day of tracking but yeah it's a mix of bad playlisting and the consequences of their previous era. Their playlists during eleven/LD/eleven was so much better now they gave up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsing707 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 7 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said: playlist reach is the amount of the playlist exposure the song has on playlists (the biggest one: top daily hits). autoplay is the song that automatically plays next after you finish a song. 5 minutes ago, illia said: Playlist reach depends on a number of playlists the song is put on. The more playlists, the more people listening to the playlist would be able to come across the song => the bigger playlist reach Autoplay is kind of like the Spotify version of Youtube ads when the song randomly plays in your queue. How can we know the total of playlists reach for a song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainy Devil Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 They all look so beautiful. The 2nd half of the video is the best since they start dancing to others parts. Probably my fav relay dance of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FACT Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 My girls NewJeans fell off Ae girls winning Mother Min Heejin N/A Seunghan out Wonyoung hiding Rocket Punch disband Oh it's bad for me 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, redsing707 said: How can we know the total of playlists reach for a song? There are multiple sites like this one: https://songstats.com/track/n0fu2pdg/how-sweet?source=spotify 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainy Devil Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 5 minutes ago, Darkling said: Thta's very different from "payola", also, spotify streams does not count as actual streams unless you listen to more than 30 seconds of the song. True. Is more as being smart of how the system works and turn in into your favor. I think we have to consider as well that the international reception to the whole HYBE vs ADOR mess has been more in favor of HYBE. I do believe armys were helping NJ with international streams just because they belong to the whole HYBE family thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adama Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3 minutes ago, Dialamba said: Their playlists during eleven/LD/eleven was so much better now they gave up. Even for After like and I AM. Imo I wouldn't care if they could at least distribute their albums properly in the US, but they can't even do that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dialamba Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Wait I saw NJ's numbers HYBE said you want to leave then no payola anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucinate Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 for comparisons first day playlisting: how sweet: 27M supernova: 7M heya: 6M easy: 7M 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, Hendery said: ASAP is horrible tho and still did huge numbers They just simply aren't getting the same push or the scandal killed some of the hype You might think ASAP is horrible, but It wasn't pushed while doing better numbers than 'How Sweet', that is a title track and have more playlisting reach. 'ASAP' was going viral on Tiktok due to the success of the MV teaser they previously released and hyped the song up. I'm not denying they have been pushed with some of their songs, but not all of them and If even their songs that weren't pushed before did better numbers than HS and BBG It's fair to say It's not as black and white as just accuse of 'lack of payola'. I believe the lack of interest in the song and yes, some of their hype/support being 'killed' due to the scandal are things to take more in consideration. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucinate Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 accendio as a title track wouldve smashed on spotify tbh all the viral looks were for that + sound is what people love from IVE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionHwang Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) Bubble Gum was used for ads and tv program in Japan but only debut #63on spotify Japan can't believe my girls flopping this hard Min Hee Hee lost Bang Body won Edited May 25 by OrionHwang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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