OrgVisual Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, newaespa said: You can't just drop a chart full of Korean without any context But lemme guess it's either Twice or Itzy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mitsuki said: It appeared in my timeline and It occurred to me It wouldn't make any difference If Han's account existed cause He simply doesn't care Lee Know is not far behind I feel like almost every member has been very low key lately except for Hyunlix and Changbin Edited February 12 by Pluto6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Moon Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 14 minutes ago, newaespa said: I can name like 10 groups who have similar chart runs who is this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, Mitsuki said: It appeared in my timeline and It occurred to me It wouldn't make any difference If Han's account existed cause He simply doesn't care Lee Know is not far behind My life is so hard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, Pluto6 said: I feel like every member has been very low key except for Hyunlix and Changbin Felix has been inactive for some time since he was doing voluntary work in Laos, but he and Hyunjin are usually very active indeed. Chan has been surprisingly active recently, updating about his whole Australia trip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaespa Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said: I can name like 10 groups who have similar chart runs who is this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 18 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said: Lesserafim is the most commercial active Kpop group atp. The project is run by Bang PD, a businessman, and it shows. There is little originality, creativity or subtlety that goes into anything they do and everything feels too on the nose. Buy out popular trainees, bring in expensive famous foreign producers, buy the same western demos through Scooter Braun, recycle the same concept outfits and "hot girl dancing" formula again and again, push 1 million remixes, hammer 1 million tiktoks, release half-baked albums, buy promotion with usual big names in the industry, variety shows / influencers / youtubers, push more promotion with the Hybe Family program... Quantity over quality. It's not bad, but it's a bit souless. Another day, another wickedly salty hot take from Ms. genicantstophypeboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said: My life is so hard Maybe It's you jinxing, Oprah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Mitsuki said: Felix has been inactive for some time since he was doing voluntary work in Laos, but he and Hyunjin are usually very active indeed. Chan has been surprisingly active recently, updating about his whole Australia trip. Chan is still perpetually on Bubble (or whatever the app is called now) tryna convince stans that he's their boyfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 21 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said: Lesserafim is the most commercial active Kpop group atp. The project is run by Bang PD, a businessman, and it shows. There is little originality, creativity or subtlety that goes into anything they do and everything feels too on the nose. Buy out popular trainees, bring in expensive famous foreign producers, buy the same western demos through Scooter Braun, recycle the same concept outfits and "hot girl dancing" formula again and again, push 1 million remixes, hammer 1 million tiktoks, release half-baked albums, buy promotion with usual big names in the industry, variety shows / influencers / youtubers, push more promotion with the Hybe Family program... Quantity over quality. It's not bad, but it's a bit souless. It could be a copypasta 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said: Lesserafim is the most commercial active Kpop group atp. whatever that means 9 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said: The project is run by Bang PD, a businessman, and it shows. starting off with a very astute exposition 9 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said: There is little originality, creativity or subtlety that goes into anything they do and everything feels too on the nose. with that monstrosity of a username 9 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said: "hot girl dancing" formula no comment 9 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said: It's not bad, but it's a bit souless. if theres anyone that needs to work on subtlety its you with this post 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, Save-Me-Oprah said: Chan is still perpetually on Bubble (or whatever the app is called now) tryna convince stans that he's their boyfriend He's really not that active on bbl usually. Before he started updating about Australia, he was almost a month without posting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemist Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 45 minutes ago, Adama said: You’re focusing on Riize when the big problem is how even a digimon like IU can’t even get 300k uls and the #2 barely getting 200k it’s tragic It's been like that for a while. Better focus on the positions than the actual #'s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, hallucinate said: it’s just too good Nile Rodgers oppa you will always be famous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, geniecantstophypeboy said: Lesserafim is the most commercial active Kpop group atp. It's not bad, but it's a bit souless. Girl this is kpop, it's always been soulless, starting with English demos, overrehearsed robotic choreos and members not being allowed to write music, to scandals like god forbid a 30 year old man with dіck and balls dares to hold hands with a woman You just described the entire industry so idk why Le Sserafim are the only ones under the attack Edited February 12 by illia 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 bring back the aes and kwangya 1 hour ago, Reginald said: aespa Drama serving longevity I have milked that song for all its worth I'm ready for the next era we all do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geniecantstophypeboy Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 30 minutes ago, Mitsuki said: It could be a copypasta Am I wrong, though? Unforgiven teasers were the biggest whiplash in recent times in Kpop and a clear example of overcompensating for the mid release with expensive marketing and style over substance. Other labels would have put more thought, spent more time and money on the album and comeback itself and less on the teasers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getinthezone Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 we need this LSFM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katyberry Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 14 minutes ago, Odette Violet said: bring back the aes and kwangya The way I am literally mourning the loss of the aes and everything! I hate SM 3.0 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geniecantstophypeboy Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 11 minutes ago, illia said: Girl this is kpop, it's always been soulless, starting with English demos, overrehearsed robotic choreos and members not being allowed to write music, to scandals like god forbid a 30 year old man with dіck and balls dares to hold hands with a woman You just described the entire industry so idk why Le Sserafim are the only ones under the attack I think many Kpop groups generally strike a good balance between desire for commercial success and creative expression. Aespa have that SM experimental sound and image, Ive have a very strong musical identity, GIdle and Stray Kids mix spectacle and more personal input/message, Newjeans also have a very strong musical identity and do a lot of work with indie / non Kpop / non mainstream 3rd parties. That's alongside the usual collaboration with big brands and other promotional tactics. For Lesserafin, the balance leans heavily toward the latter. They don't have a creative identity as much. Their unforgiven album was also the weakest album among all the artists I mentioned here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said: I think many Kpop groups generally strike a good balance between desire for commercial success and creative expression. Aespa have that SM experimental sound and image, Ive have a very strong musical identity, GIdle and Stray Kids mix spectacle and more personal input/message, Newjeans also have a very strong musical identity and do a lot of work with indie / non Kpop / non mainstream 3rd parties. That's alongside the usual collaboration with big brands and other promotional tactics. For Lesserafin, the balance leans heavily toward the latter. They don't have a creative identity as much. Their unforgiven album was also the weakest album among all the artists I mentioned here. What musical identity do IVE have that makes them more *creative* than LSRFM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dialamba Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 1 minute ago, illia said: What musical identity do IVE have that makes them more *creative* than LSRFM? And yeah you aren’t gonna come for IVE Edited February 12 by Dialamba 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceans Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 its like they saw the organic success of eve psyche and instead of carving their own sound with that, they just stole a nugu demo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChatshireCat Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 the way swan song is gonna eclipse easy. another eve vs unforgiven moment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceans Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 also, argentina just dropped their own kpop group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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