Zack Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 3 hours ago, cat1867 said: The korean police investigated and cleared the lady of being a sasaeng. she turned over her phone's whole history. what happened is that she want to call her friend but accidently called one of her old contacts whose number had been changed. in korea when numbers are no longer active they get recycled. so he had the old phone number of her contact. after she realized, she dialed the wrong number ,she called her friend again and thought nothing of it. when she got off her call with her friend and she noticed hundreds of harassing calls and text messages from fans, she went straight to the police. they checked her logs and that was the first time she had called him and she had no connections to nct or even kpop in general. in korea, people can hide their numbers when calling. what happened is that he was getting a barrage of calls from sansaengs. since the lady meant to call her friend when she accidently dialed his number, he just thought she was the same sansaeng but had missed to hide her number. he can't normally post the numbers of sansaengs since they are normally hidden so it was that the fact that she was a civilian that gave him a rare chance. sm is apologizing since this is a very bad look in korea for the company and idol. sm and sasaengs sucks but the police have confirmed that she isn't a sasaeng. the worst thing fans can do for him right is to continue to justify the harassment of this lady. the lady is a high school student whose full identity has been doxxed. fans even posted her number on prostitution websites. it's a really dangerous situation for renjun in korea now. international fans need to leave both him and the lady alone. I think we just need to consider the context of this whole situation. If this particular caller is completely innocent, then absolutely it is wrong that she got caught in the crossfire and suffered invasion of her privacy and of course she needs to be left alone. The police were called by this person, but pretending to call "by mistake" is a very very common tactic used by sasaengs and even if this particular phone number didn't show repeated call logs, I haven't seen anything which rules out that she could have been behind other calls to him from other numbers. This is also what many fans are questioning among other things. Sasaengs often have numerous devices/phone numbers on purpose and the police can only take the information they have from the number she provided, from which she could have only called once. As it stands, it appears she is innocent and either way she should be left alone, but there are some gaps in the explanation which seem a little questionable. There's also the question of why RENJUN would even reveal a number that only called once or twice, though we know he has been suffering from the harassment for a long time and maybe just snapped. But even that aside, the way SM has handled this is absolutely terrible. Back to my point of context, RENJUN has been on hiatus for anxiety and mental health issues. SM's statement is written in a way that is attacking him, when SM could have used it as an opportunity to remind/warn all sasaengs to leave him alone and let him recover from his mental health issues in peace. Instead, they haven't managed the situation with sasaengs and when RENJUN has been forced to take matters into his own hands, trying to protect his own privacy and wellbeing, they have placed all the blame on him rather than the company or stating that he is getting support. This is what I have a huge issue with. Guess it leads into a wider conversation about how mental health is dealt with in K-Pop and we all KNOW that there are still some serious issues with that. I just hope that this situation hasn't worsened RENJUN's condition or affected his recovery, it's a terrible situation for him. Edited June 21 by Zack 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xalric Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I still feel that their world tour happened at the wrong time. Or BPM should have planned an album or single before the tour, like the tour focal point being Maniac, almost one year later is too... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaespa Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) most streamed Korean song released on 10 November 2023 and they did it without those horny girls and guys mute streaming on Spotify inorganically Edited June 21 by newaespa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucinate Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Dialamba said: CERTIFIED SOTY i'm ready for another bop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfreshkidxx Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Momo solo coming 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) Most streamed album released on November 10 2023 Edited June 21 by Pluto6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaespa Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Armageddon (single) outstreaming Charlie Puth's latest 2 singles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrgVisual Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 42 minutes ago, youresotoxic said: Cosmic almost being 4 minutes Min Heejin betta take notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romiskes Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 7 minutes ago, Xalric said: I still feel that their world tour happened at the wrong time. Or BPM should have planned an album or single before the tour, like the tour focal point being Maniac, almost one year later is too... They're just overworking VIVIZ to pay the BADVILLAIN debt at this point, that tour has no goal at all, all the songs in it are old and already promoted. I need them to leave BPM as soon as that contract expire and give us a huge 10th anniversary GFRIEND album somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 minutes ago, romiskes said: They're just overworking VIVIZ to pay the BADVILLAIN debt at this point, that tour has no goal at all, all the songs in it are old and already promoted. I need them to leave BPM as soon as that contract expire and give us a huge 10th anniversary GFRIEND album somewhere else. Judging by the amount of SHAMELESS Badvillain ads on Youtube, that tour is about to last 5 years at least 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Rhyme said: I remember he once said I AM THE BEST was bigger than any SNSD song. No way he likes SNSD. I didn't say anything, the numbers did: I AM the Best: YouTube - 686M Spotify - 148M Gee: YouTube - 417M Spotify - 86M Edited June 21 by Pluto6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaespa Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Hi guys, anyone have any update to ABCD's chart performance? Like where is it on melon? Where did it debut on Spotify chart? Thank you so much! :) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaespa Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Double posting because I am lazy to edit, I meant ABCD by Nayeon! Just in case people mix the song with the one by Gayle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyme Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 minutes ago, Pluto6 said: I didn't say anything, the numbers did: I AM the Best: YouTube - 686M Spotify - 148M Gee: YouTube - 417M Spotify - 86M People who live and only understand the value of music through numbers are so sad. Just continue living in that world where Stray Kids music is big because they sell a lot of burgers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witnessed ET Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Whew she's just effortlessly THAT girl too bad she refuses to make a full album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rhyme said: People who live and only understand the value of music through numbers are so sad. Just continue living in that world where Stray Kids music is big because they sell a lot of burgers. Trust me, I know numbers aren't everything, like I literally stan EVERGLOW, with their latest single still not crossing 1M on Spotify Edited June 21 by Pluto6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyme Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Just now, Pluto6 said: Trust me, I know numbers aren't everything, like I literally stan EVERGLOW whose latest single hasn't crossed 1M on Spotify I don't care who you stan Using Spotify to judge how big music from 2nd gen is just dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 We need a new comeback from these icons BIG TSHIRT NOT BILLIE JUST POSSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustMe. Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 he's getting so big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Rhyme said: I don't care who you stan Using Spotify to judge how big music from 2nd gen is just dumb. I also used YouTube. Why are you acting like 2nd gen happened in the 80's or something? Anyways, cry Edited June 21 by Pluto6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattheo Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 advertglow disbanding, nayeon bombing to oblivion, skz copying nctdream and being outlasted on spotify by aespa i would be mad too 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterNavy Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 just saw a local kpop store in my country selling armageddon cdp ver for $250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterNavy Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 34 minutes ago, newaespa said: Hi guys, anyone have any update to ABCD's chart performance? Like where is it on melon? Where did it debut on Spotify chart? Thank you so much! days of zero updates on thee alleged it girl of all it girls? very interesting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattheo Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) reminder that the only SEMI hit jypig was able to produce this year was a day6 song despite itzy, nimxx, twice (former NGG), and now Nayeon (stans-proclaimed beyonce of kpop) releasing, that JYP stan should never open his mouth on others' success Edited June 21 by Mattheo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspirit Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) I mean I love Twice and Nayeon, but in what world has she ever been considered a It girl ? Edited June 21 by Inspirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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