base talk Grimes: “I'm called a Nazi because I happily am proud of white culture” (+ more)

[Mitsouko]

Unlistenable music unlistenable opinions 

[Alex]

she should've never left canada 

[Happylittlepunk]

She can be proud of being Canadian and American culture. If she has ancestry in Ukraine or uk she can be proud of that.

[Redstreak]

2 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

How is white culture not a thing

White culture as a term has no meaning, it’s nebulous, it’s immediately got negative connotations because of who it’s popularized with. Now there’s European culture, Scandinavian culture, Irish culture, etc. but using it as some opposite to, as the usual example, Black culture can’t and won’t work because Black culture has a very specific and tangential meaning. It’s explicitly American centric as it was borne out of the very specific prejudices that they have faced here in this country, you would never use it to group any part of the African diaspora like white culture somehow describes every white country no matter how different.

[dawnettakins]

Why do we pay attention to her again on here when she's irrelevant af irl? 

[cloudbusting]

maybe she should’ve retired and vanished after Art Angels - go out on a high note and be a weirdo in private with no platform

[JanStan]

45 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

White culture as a term has no meaning, it’s nebulous, it’s immediately got negative connotations because of who it’s popularized with. Now there’s European culture, Scandinavian culture, Irish culture, etc. but using it as some opposite to, as the usual example, Black culture can’t and won’t work because Black culture has a very specific and tangential meaning. It’s explicitly American centric as it was borne out of the very specific prejudices that they have faced here in this country, you would never use it to group any part of the African diaspora like white culture somehow describes every white country no matter how different.

What is the very specific and tangential meaning of black culture that wouldn’t apply to other cultures? 

[Bussea]

what is white culture? stealing from other people’s culture, being racist and raisins in potato salad?

Edited December 31, 2023 by Cult Leader 𐕣𐕣

[Redstreak]

33 minutes ago, JanStan said:

What is the very specific and tangential meaning of black culture that wouldn’t apply to other cultures? 

It’s the opposite, other specific cultures do have meanings. The term “white culture” as some blanket term does not

[JonginBey]

 

[Moloko Plus]

So many idiots in her replies

[Park Jinyoung]

We already know what these people mean when they say stuff like this. We already know the road it leads to and from. It’s the most obvious and played out dog whistle of all time. There’s been thousands of racists before her with the same playbook. She’s not special, not slick, and the people acting oblivious aren’t either.

Edited December 31, 2023 by Park Jinyoung

[sickofwaitingtables]

She is literally so overrated and so boring at the same time. 

[Communion]

1 hour ago, JanStan said:

What is the very specific and tangential meaning of black culture that wouldn’t apply to other cultures? 

When you read the term "black culture", what exactly do you believe it to mean? Most of its usage will often be to refer to the experiences and cultural products of Black Americans. 

 

When you see the term, are you taking it to mean something else?

[JanStan]

13 minutes ago, Communion said:

When you read the term "black culture", what exactly do you believe it to mean? Most of its usage will often be to refer to the experiences and cultural products of Black Americans. 

 

When you see the term, are you taking it to mean something else?

No that’s how I would take it mean as well. It’s vast and not specific to any one thing. In that same way I could say the same thing about white culture (or any culture) as there are things that would be considered parts of that culture such as music, food, speech etc. For example when I think of country music, ballet, baseball and hot dogs (just to name examples from different parts of a culture) I think those are traditionally things that could be considered parts white culture. 

[BletaRexher]

She’s from Canada, what’s this culture she’s proud of? Gravy on fries?

[Namie-Knowles]

36 minutes ago, BletaRexher said:

She’s from Canada, what’s this culture she’s proud of? Gravy on fries?

Milk in a bag

[Cruel Summer]

Can someone just, like, time travel with this Grimes and do an exchange for pre-COVID Grimes? I know she’s never been perfect, but something happened with this girl after Miss Anthropocene released and it’s been getting weirder and more uncomfortable ever since, especially in the last year. At best this is well-intentioned but incredibly out of touch and tone-deaf, at worst this is just the same intentionally evasive and generalized language used by racists for ages, like “All Lives Matter.”

 

Plus, as an added bonus, if we swap the Grimeses, we’d get to pretend I Wanna Be Software never existed, because if that’s what the music is going to sound like from now on...

[Cain]

On one hand I do think it’s problematic to talk about Black culture or Asian culture but then turn around and act like there is no White culture (the Judeo-Christian one) cause there definitely is and acting like there isn’t just reinforces the stereotype that white people are the default and undefined and everything else is deviating from that and thus needs to be defined 

 

However she’s obviously not looking at it from that lense

[DRod93]

2 hours ago, JanStan said:

No that’s how I would take it mean as well. It’s vast and not specific to any one thing. In that same way I could say the same thing about white culture (or any culture) as there are things that would be considered parts of that culture such as music, food, speech etc. For example when I think of country music, ballet, baseball and hot dogs (just to name examples from different parts of a culture) I think those are traditionally things that could be considered parts white culture. 

I think the counter argument is that those specific things are not seen as specifically white culture, but they're usually talked about and treated as American culture. Which is I think the point, usually the things that people want to tie down to "white culture" are just signifiers of a country that is predominately white. There's a reason baseball is usually called "America's favorite pastime" and not "white American's favorite pastime".

[DAP]

She isn’t a Nazi but she is living proof that a fool that stands for nothing will fall for anything. That’s why you can never be mad at people like Grimes, much less take them seriously (for me at least). She is buffoonish in her devotion to a vapid cause, but her interpretation of the world is so absurd that she views herself as a disciple against a threat to humanity that she would not be able to define if you pressed her further about it.

Edited January 1 by DAP

[GraceRandolph]

She thinks she’s so evolved. 

[Armani?]

12 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

White people being proud of their culture does not equal being a Nazi. Being proud of their history is something different tho.

Um....Black culture exclusively relates to African American culture since it was born out of separation from West Africa (slavery)

 

White culture isn't a thing since there's many European cultures, unless you're just talking about the racist nationalism in America.

[G.U.Y_Del_Rey]

She's completely lost it 

[Bloo]

6 hours ago, JanStan said:

 hot dogs (just to name examples from different parts of a culture) I think those are traditionally things that could be considered parts white culture. 

You're honestly trying to say hot dogs are "White culture"?