base talk Barbie is not a quotable movie. What happened?

[supaspaz]

1 hour ago, Achilles. said:

I will mostly be seething because of their egregious attempt to pass off a film adapted from one of the ten highest grossing intellectual properties in history as “original.” The titular role is literally a trademark. I am vehemently opposed to its placement in that category. Wouldn’t take any pleasure in Greta winning for what would be by far the worst of her three nominated screenplays, either.  

 

And we all know it’s only being campaigned as “original” because that’s the easier category this year. If it were the other way around, they’d definitely have called it “adapted.” No standards whatsoever, just whatever’s easier to get a trophy. It’s all so transparent. 
 

Barbie’s only Oscar should be for “What Was I Made For.”

 

I’m not entirely opposed to the idea. What’s the actual adaptation here? An idea of a character. That’s very different than adapting a book. The story is original. So there’s a debate to be had about what the adapted vs. original line really means.

[Achilles.]

15 minutes ago, supaspaz said:

 

I’m not entirely opposed to the idea. What’s the actual adaptation here? An idea of a character. That’s very different than adapting a book. The story is original. So there’s a debate to be had about what the adapted vs. original line really means.

You could technically say the same about Joker, too. It wasn’t adapted from an existing book or comic; it was an “original story” about “an idea of the character.” But that was still universally considered an adapted screenplay by any and all standards because Joker the character originated in print media. The Oscars cite the screenplay to Joker as being “based on characters created by…”

 

Barbie itself tells us that Barbie is a character created by Ruth Handler. By the Academy’s own standards, it should be considered an adapted screenplay.

[PoisonPill]

I’ve seen Kenough everywhere for months 

[GraceRandolph]

5 minutes ago, Achilles. said:

You could technically say the same about Joker, too. It wasn’t adapted from an existing book or comic; it was an “original story” about “an idea of the character.” But that was still universally considered an adapted screenplay by any and all standards because Joker the character originated in print media. The Oscars cite the screenplay to Joker as being “based on characters created by…”

 

Barbie itself tells us that Barbie is a character created by Ruth Handler. By the Academy’s own standards, it should be considered an adapted screenplay.

Joker featured many plot points and dialogue that are ripped from Batman comics...

 

[supaspaz]

54 minutes ago, Achilles. said:

You could technically say the same about Joker, too. It wasn’t adapted from an existing book or comic; it was an “original story” about “an idea of the character.” But that was still universally considered an adapted screenplay by any and all standards because Joker the character originated in print media. The Oscars cite the screenplay to Joker as being “based on characters created by…”

 

Barbie itself tells us that Barbie is a character created by Ruth Handler. By the Academy’s own standards, it should be considered an adapted screenplay.

What I’m saying is, this is a good moment to reconsider what the adapted/original categories are actually recognizing.

 

There’s an Oppenheimer film that could be made based on original research instead of a book somebody already wrote, but it’s still a biopic based on historical events. Is that theoretically comparable to Barbie?

[superben]

Barbenheimer is like the most iconic word in pop culture in 2023

[Strawberry Bubble]

Maybe the backlash comes from the shock of being exposed to a highly feminist and "woke" movie? This movie received a LOT of criticism because of the message it delivered. But I believe it will age like wine, specially because it proved that the "go woke, go broke" line is fake for the new era of entertainment. 

 

 

[Gesamtkunstwerk]

Sorry for all the people fighting over if this movie is iconic or not, but only time will tell  It hasn't even been a year since release.

[GardenPanty]

I'm sorry but the movie was terrible. The humor was cringey and clearly milennial-white-woman based. Like, even the examples quoted on the first page were not funny at all  

 

I wanted a brainless girly Barbie movie but instead we got a feminist lecture.

[Fleahive]

I only watched the first 20 minutes via movie streaming site but I find myself saying "Hi barbie hi barbie hi ken" out of nowhere sometimes. 

[Achilles.]

[lauren198]

There's the "She's everything. He's just Ken"