news Trump says immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country"

[Communion]

Him doing this the same week the Biden admin is getting tricked into supporting the most anti-immigrant legislation in 30+ years for Israel + Ukraine aid.

 

Trump is playing chess. Biden is playing checkers. 

[Archetype]

32 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said:

Trump isn’t enabling a genocide as we speak, Biden is. Hypotheticals aside (that don’t hold much merit considering Biden has continued to have the same impact as Trump these past four years), Biden is actively a greater evil than trump even with this heinous rhetoric. 

That is factually incorrect.  Trump loves Israel and Bibi more than Biden.  We would be sending even more military aid AND encouraging the IDF to bomb Gaza to hell (somehow that is possible considering how horrible things already are).  We would be actively calling out our allies for supporting “brown terrorists” and painting Palestinians as a threat to white people all over the world.  That is the Trump way.  Maybe you deserve that reality but I certainly do not.  Logical people will take the less harmful and destructive option over complete annihilation any day.  That being, we don’t have any other options.  I don’t care what we “could have” if it’s not actually happening.  But Trump doing all of that **** IS going to happen if he wins and this war is still ongoing.  

[Sergi91]

5 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said:

It’s really telling that it’s Zionazis (on this site (the usual suspects will upvote your post) and in the general public) who will feign concern for immigrants/Muslims and deflect to Trump… Like y’all are pro-Palestinian genocide and still voter shaming to just maintain some fake moral high ground… the act is up. Don’t act like y’all care about immigrant lives when you’re fine with the bombs dropped on immigrants’ home countries. 

I dont know who you are talking about but just in case you trying it with me let me give you my 2 cents. No, I am NOT pro- Palestinian genocide and Im also no longer Pro Biden. I look at the bigger picture and see Trump as the bigger threat not only to the ******* United States but the entire planet! and this includes Palestine. Do we want the orange buffon back into the White House? the same man who moved the US embassy to Israel into Jerusalem??  the same man who installed the Muslim Ban? What makes you think not voting for Biden will automatically NOT gives us a second Trump term? a third party vote in a swing state is wasteful which will give an advantage to the BIGGER threat. 

 

Yes, Biden is WRONG for continuing to support Israel and yes, people should hold him accountable. With this being said, Trump winning and making PROJECT 25 a reality, WE wont be able to even protest against Trump and who knows what other malicious things he and his allies are planning to do against us gays, muslims, immigrants.... 

 

 

[Gov Hooka]

5 minutes ago, Archetype said:

That is factually incorrect.  Trump loves Israel and Bibi more than Biden.  We would be sending even more military aid AND encouraging the IDF to bomb Gaza to hell (somehow that is possible considering how horrible things already are).  We would be actively calling out our allies for supporting “brown terrorists” and painting Palestinians as a threat to white people all over the world.  That is the Trump way.  Maybe you deserve that reality but I certainly do not.  Logical people will take the less harmful and destructive option over complete annihilation any day.  That being, we don’t have any other options.  I don’t care what we “could have” if it’s not actually happening.  But Trump doing all of that **** IS going to happen if he wins and this war is still ongoing.  

Your entire argument rests on “would.” It’s hypothetical, ignores the current reality, and thus endorses no policy change regarding the continuation of genocide. Nothing about voting for the perpetrator of this genocide is “logical.” 
 

Here’s the final tweet from the Palestinian poet Refaat Alareer who was deliberately murdered in his home by an Israeli airstrike recently. 
 

Go ahead and justify voting for that however you want… 

Edited December 17, 2023 by Gov Hooka

[Gov Hooka]

7 minutes ago, Sergi91 said:

I dont know who you are talking about but just in case you trying it with me let me give you my 2 cents. No, I am NOT pro- Palestinian genocide and Im also no longer Pro Biden. I look at the bigger picture and see Trump as the bigger threat not only to the ******* United States but the entire planet! and this includes Palestine. Do we want the orange buffon back into the White House? the same man who moved the US embassy to Israel into Jerusalem??  the same man who installed the Muslim Ban? What makes you think not voting for Biden will automatically NOT gives us a second Trump term? a third party vote in a swing state is wasteful which will give an advantage to the BIGGER threat. 

 

Yes, Biden is WRONG for continuing to support Israel and yes, people should hold him accountable. With this being said, Trump winning and making PROJECT 25 a reality, WE wont be able to even protest against Trump and who knows what other malicious things he and his allies are planning to do against us gays, muslims, immigrants.... 

 

 

Imagine saying Biden is “wrong” and then continuing to vote for him… US liberals really are so selfish. Countless videos later of Biden’s bombs blowing up Palestinian children, and all y’all can still say is “orange buffoon bad…” 

[wastedpotential]

53 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said:

Trump isn’t enabling a genocide as we speak, Biden is. Hypotheticals aside (that don’t hold much merit considering Biden has continued to have the same impact as Trump these past four years), Biden is actively a greater evil than trump even with this heinous rhetoric. 

That's certainly true, and Biden has had a more direct impact on the war but I think we can safely take Trump at his word and assume that on January 20th he'll cut out the middle man and engage in war with Iran directly on Israel's behalf as his only "change" to US policy in the region. It may be a race to the bottom, but Trump's only criticism of Israel's actions (aside from his personal issues with Netanyahu) has been that they need to invest in better PR. Y'all can vote (or not vote) how you want, but I have a pretty strong suspicion that you'll regret your choices pretty quick into February of 2025. 

Edited December 17, 2023 by wastedpotential

[Gov Hooka]

1 minute ago, wastedpotential said:

That's certainly true, and Biden has had a more direct impact on the war but I think we can safely take Trump at his word and assume that on January 20th he'll cut out the middle man and engage in war with Iran directly on Israel's behalf. It may be a race to the bottom, but Trump's only criticism of Israel's actions (aside from his personal issues with Netanyahu) has been that they need to invest in better PR. Y'all can vote (or not vote) how you want, but I have a pretty strong suspicion that you'll regret your choices pretty quick into February of 2025. 

Another hypothetical… 

[Mr. Mendes]

12 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said:

Another hypothetical… 

It isn't really a hypothetical though. These are the things he himself has outlined. 

 

I despise Joe Biden. I think he's been poisonous to this country in a lot of ways and find him to be just as much a liar as the same sorts of politicians that he criticizes. But you have to be an absolute fool if you think that you would see any sort of improvement with a Trump administration. You would certainly see a decline. In all things, not just the war. That is not an assumption, that is the exact path that his own words have put that timeline on. He's been quite clear about what he intends to do should he once more be given the ability to do it. 

[GhostBox]

Trump literally is saying what he would do and be if he wins and people in here are still like “that’s a hypothetical” 💀

 

how dumb can you get. 

[GhostBox]

1 hour ago, Gov Hooka said:

Trump isn’t enabling a genocide as we speak, Biden is. Hypotheticals aside (that don’t hold much merit considering Biden has continued to have the same impact as Trump these past four years), Biden is actively a greater evil than trump even with this heinous rhetoric. 

💀 delusion at its finest 

[Gov Hooka]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Mendes said:

It isn't really a hypothetical though. These are the things he himself has outlined. 

 

I despise Joe Biden. I think he's been poisonous to this country in a lot of ways and find him to be just as much a liar as the same sorts of politicians that he criticizes. But you have to be an absolute fool if you think that you would see any sort of improvement with a Trump administration. You would certainly see a decline. In all things, not just the war. That is not an assumption, that is the exact path that his own words have put that timeline on. He's been quite clear about what he intends to do should he once more be given the ability to do it. 

The only absolute fools here are those who still feel the need to deflect to a potential scenario in the future rather than hold those accountable for the actions they are committing *right now*

it’s shameful and it’s exactly why the Dem party is as right wing as it is right now. 

[Gov Hooka]

4 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

💀 delusion at its finest 

You’re one of the biggest Zionazis on this site. Spare me any of your commentary since you’ll get what you wanted regardless: the continued US support of Palestinian genocide 

[Communion]

1 hour ago, Archetype said:

We would be sending even more military aid AND encouraging the IDF to bomb Gaza to hell 

Yes, but 50% of the people cheering on Zionism and Israel would suddenly become bleeding heart Palestinian activists now that it's a Republican doing these things instead of a Democrat, especially amongst the privileged pundit classes and those within the halls of Congress.

 

I mean, again, we went from people crying about kids in cages due to Trump to Biden literally pushing this week for Dems to accept a deal that will de-facto end asylum in America, allow ICE to put more kids in cages than ever, *and* expedite the process to just *hours* for which border services can deport people upon capture without due process and a trial.

 

We are literally seeing Democrats line up to roll back our nation's immigration policies by about 30 years and there's not any meaningful coverage on it from those in Congress or in the media cause they think funding war is more important than helping those in need. Even as polls continue to show Americans can't actually stomach what "hard on immigration" policies look like in action.

 

You cannot blame people for becoming numb to the dwindling differences when Democrats themselves work to erase whatever ones there are.

Edited December 17, 2023 by Communion

[dussel_06]

The way he just mentioned Asia, Africa and South America…..

 

Where’s Europe honey? Are they not relevant? 
 

Disgusting. Can’t the US change their election system. Why does it has to be always two guys? Get rid of the electoral college and you’ll get more options on people running. It seems like the one representing each party is predetermined by politicians and not by the people. And at the end the people are left with no choice.

[Gorjesspazze9]

The irony is that immigrants are the backbone of our economy and workforce

[Into The Void]

1 hour ago, Gov Hooka said:

Imagine saying Biden is “wrong” and then continuing to vote for him… US liberals really are so selfish. Countless videos later of Biden’s bombs blowing up Palestinian children, and all y’all can still say is “orange buffoon bad…” 

And when Trump is elected is he going to help Palestine or is he going to be pro Israel?  We already know Trump is just gonna do what Biden is already doing.  Things don't look good either way

[Zoomer]

AND ILL STILL PICK TRUMP OVER BIDEN. Now FUME. 

[Bubble Tea]

Native Americans nodding sincerely no doubt. 

[theoghon]

3 hours ago, hahayo said:

he must he horrified to see what's happening to canada 

What happened 😥

[Rep2000]

4 hours ago, Gov Hooka said:

Trump isn’t enabling a genocide as we speak, Biden is. Hypotheticals aside (that don’t hold much merit considering Biden has continued to have the same impact as Trump these past four years), Biden is actively a greater evil than trump even with this heinous rhetoric. 

Yeah, Trump would just order airstrikes to help the genocide instead. He's the one with the Muslim Ban, remember?

[wehan6]

6 hours ago, SmittenCake said:

in a perfect world both Trump and Biden would drop d-word at the same time

 

 

 

[Anthinos]

2 hours ago, Zoomer said:

AND ILL STILL PICK TRUMP OVER BIDEN. Now FUME. 

Of course, because you are a right-winger as your other posts in this forum show. Trump voters and people who trivialize this guy disgust me.

[Anthinos]

4 hours ago, Gov Hooka said:

Imagine saying Biden is “wrong” and then continuing to vote for him… US liberals really are so selfish. Countless videos later of Biden’s bombs blowing up Palestinian children, and all y’all can still say is “orange buffoon bad…” 

And people like you are just illogical. Trump is much worse than Biden. You're getting hung up on a single issue here and also distorting the facts. Biden does not support Israel 100%. The issue is complex. It's also not hypothetical. Trump and the Republicans and all the far right parties in Europe are very open about their ideology and plans. Personally, I don't want to find out what happens if Trump comes to power or here in Germany the AfD. That's why I will always vote for the opposing candidate, no matter what.

[Halcyon Days]

how come these people not realize they're all descendants from immigrants   

[flashfox]

Bi**h, you’re a immigrant too a**h**e.