celeb news Pollstar: Taylor Swift is biggest dominating artist in culture since prime MJ/Madonna

[Raptus]

Why is Prince always grouped  with Madonna/Mj? He was never as big as them and faded when the 80s ended.  

[ttsmu]

Imagine how bad pop music must be right now, to have an artist like Taylor Swift as its biggest exponent.

 

Congrats to her I guess 

Edited December 12, 2023 by ttsmu

[Rune]

A shame that the music doesn't explain the mystery.

 

"Cause the players gonna play, play, play, play, play
And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off (hoo-hoo-hoo)
Heartbreakers gonna break, break, break, break, break
And the fakers gonna fake, fake, fake, fake, fake
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off (hoo-hoo-hoo)"

 

[poki]

18 hours ago, She-Rah said:

If Britney is the heir apperant to the Pop Qeendom as a result of using MJ’s baby batter with Madonna’s egg shouldn’t Britney have came out mixed race since MJ was black? 
 

OT: Taylor is starting to become overexposed.

Britney did a DNA test a few years ago and she apparently discovered she's not fully white 

[poki]

Hopefully people don't pull revisionist lies on her 2017-2019 years though. The stats look good now but back then it was a real mess, Folklore boosted her back to the top. 

[Cap87]

Will you all stop trying to compare this mediocre girl to Michael Jackson.   She will never be on his level.

[WildHeart]

On 12/11/2023 at 8:00 AM, LittleStarmen said:

Yeah these sales/steeaming records things dont reflect real life

 

 

 

On 12/12/2023 at 7:23 AM, BrandNewBrandon said:

That's her problem. She's got big album numbers but none of her songs are that big and she has little cultural impact. Madonna had big album sales, several SMASH hits, big touring, the biggest impact on female pop. 

Per Bilboard yesterday 

 

"And it’s about looking at the current pop landscape and seeing Swift’s impact absolutely everywhere. It’s in the breakout of singer-songwriter Noah Kahan, who’s acknowledged that the pandemic-era acclaim for her Folklore and Evermore albums helped open a mainstream lane for his brand of alt-folk. It’s in the sophomore success of Olivia Rodrigo, who’s been following in the Taylor Swift career mold so well through her first three years of recording that she even just released an eerie Hunger Games ballad. It’s in the first-ever Hot 100 hits for obvious acolytes like Lizzy McAlpine and Gracie Abrams. It’s even in the recent triumphs of stars like Zach Bryan and SZA, whose musical trees don’t branch up to Swift, but who are certainly benefiting from the raised commercial ceiling she’s allowed for artists whose emphasis is first and foremost on detailed, personal songwriting."

 

On 12/11/2023 at 7:28 AM, BrandNewBrandon said:

 

I'd say what the user said is correct. Hello came out at the end of 2015 and still managed to score a #7 placement on the year-end list one spot above Blank Space which had the whole year of sales. 

 

Also, Hello went to #1 in 32 countries, Blank Space went #1 in 7 countries. Taylor has never had a song as big as Poker Face or Hello. 

 

It's safe to say you're wrong. 

Hello has 4M more digital sales while Blank Space has 500M more streams AND it does 2M more daily. 

 

Blank Space is bigger and more remembered song indeed and numbers back that up. 

 

On 12/12/2023 at 7:23 AM, BrandNewBrandon said:

Why is Taylor the next Madonna while Rihanna isn't when more people can name a Rihanna song than a Taylor song 

Because no one going to call an artist who struggles to debut at #1 with her albums or sell out arenas the next Madonna. 

 

Madonna was the Madonna because she smashed in every field from singles to albums to tours to acclaim unlike her peers. 

Taylor is more than only singles, just like Madonna. 

This is why she dominated hard enough to became POTY while Rihanna's singles weren't enough to make her shortlisted. 

[readytowind]

No. Her disposable and quick produced forgettable songs are unknown to the world and the people even in the USA.

Most people in my country don't even know her name.

So  I don't agree at all.

Another pr article for the media to make her look bigger than she actually is. A desperate and pathetic attempt to make her look good. 

Edited December 17, 2023 by readytowind

[Cap87]

33 minutes ago, readytowind said:

No. Her disposable and quick produced forgettable songs are unknown to the world and the people even in the USA.

Most people in my country don't even know her name.

So  I don't agree at all.

Another pr article for the media to make her look bigger than she actually is.

Preach!!!!

[BryceG]

On 12/12/2023 at 9:31 PM, Cap87 said:

Will you all stop trying to compare this mediocre girl to Michael Jackson.   She will never be on his level.

The data suggests she is, so cope.

[Cap87]

19 hours ago, BryceG said:

The data suggests she is, so cope.

She isn't 

[baelani]

She’s bigger than Michael I fear. Not as iconic since a random person in Zimbabwe wouldn’t know who she is, but bigger yes. NO artist has grossed as much as she just did on this historic eras tour 

[Jay07]

On 12/12/2023 at 9:53 PM, Raptus said:

Why is Prince always grouped  with Madonna/Mj? He was never as big as them and faded when the 80s ended.  

So did Michael and Prince's heyday was just as big with a hit movie and a hit album at the same tine.

 

More importantly how is this thread 30 pages. Are people really taking some puff piece that contains the sentence "Taylor Swift is Jesus" seriously?

[Steve Johnson]

Dupe accounts replying to each other here is so funny. Keep fuming OTHs. 

[Jay07]

21 hours ago, BryceG said:

The data suggests she is, so cope.

Which data? The streaming data which didn't even exist in MJs time or the touring data in a completely different touring economy/world population? Do you have any idea what tickets cost in MJs time? I know you're desperate to prove Taylor Swift is something she isn't since her artistic legacy and cultural reach certainly don't suggest that but be serious and stop trying to compare apples and oranges. 

[slw84]

Yes. It's hard to deny when you gross 1B on a tour.

[readytowind]

19 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Which data? The streaming data which didn't even exist in MJs time or the touring data in a completely different touring economy/world population? Do you have any idea what tickets cost in MJs time? I know you're desperate to prove Taylor Swift is something she isn't since her artistic legacy and cultural reach certainly don't suggest that but be serious and stop trying to compare apples and oranges. 

Not a single wrong word. Completely agree. The king and queen of pop, mj and Madonna, have pioneered experimented and expanded the touring markets around the world since the 80s, an uncharted territory. After them the  rest just follow their footsteps and basically copy and paste and benefit from what they already did.

More respects to the king and queen of pop. Mj and Madonna forever. 

[!ngwe]

How can she be more global to be named as Legend?

[Cap87]

4 hours ago, baelani said:

She’s bigger than Michael I fear. Not as iconic since a random person in Zimbabwe wouldn’t know who she is, but bigger yes. NO artist has grossed as much as she just did on this historic eras tour 

No she's not bigger than Michael Jackson

[Raptus]

3 hours ago, Jay07 said:

More importantly how is this thread 30 pages. Are people really taking some puff piece that contains the sentence "Taylor Swift is Jesus" seriously?

Thanks to you it's gonna be 31

 

[BryceG]

6 minutes ago, Cap87 said:

No she's not bigger than Michael Jackson

It's comparable now, all things being equal. Let's see in 30 years time.

[Cap87]

30 minutes ago, BryceG said:

It's comparable now, all things being equal. Let's see in 30 years time.

It's not

 

In another 30 years, Michael Jackson music will still be heavily played like it is today which will not be the case for Taylor Swift.

[readytowind]

2 hours ago, Cap87 said:

It's not

 

In another 30 years, Michael Jackson music will still be heavily played like it is today which will not be the case for Taylor Swift.

This. Her forgettable and disposable, quickly produced, songs are unknown to most people in the world. They can't name a single song nor doesn't even know her name. 

Her songs stay in charts a few weeks and disappeared like the wind in the spring. And gone.

People don't remember her song titles after months. Disposed 

Edited December 17, 2023 by readytowind

[readytowind]

2 hours ago, BryceG said:

It's comparable now, all things being equal. Let's see in 30 years time.

In your dream

[Lille]

Indisputably the biggest star on Earth.