celeb news Pollstar: Taylor Swift is biggest dominating artist in culture since prime MJ/Madonna

[vale9001]

it's 70 years  talented songwriters with catchy melodies are very popular.

 

You should try to click here if you haven't heard about it

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_music

Edited December 6, 2023 by vale9001

[Achilles.]

Yall can call her a paranoid malignant narcissist or whatever all you want, but we all know she is correct about how the industry works: they try to emulate successful acts and offer record deals with the intention of filling certain niches or appealing to certain audiences. 
 

Taylor herself exemplifies this. It’s not a coincidence that she, Carrie, and Miranda all broke through at roughly the same time. The Chicks were blacklisted in the genre. Reba was in the fourth decade of her career. Shania had just capped off her monumental run with a greatest hits collection, and wouldn’t release another studio album for 15 years. Faith Hill earned the last top 10 hits of her career the same year that Taylor, Carrie, and Miranda were breaking through with their debut eras. Country music was desperate to find new female talent. It goes even further with Taylor, who—at such a young age—represented Nashville’s decade-long struggle to find a “new LeAnn Rimes” (breakout teenage artist). 
 

There were a lot of attempted efforts at breaking a new female superstar in country music in the early 2000s: Carolyn Dawn Johnson, Cyndi Thomson, Jamie O’Neal, Jessica Andrews, SheDaisy, Julie Roberts… They were the industry’s attempts to find the new Shania, Faith, Martina, LeAnn, The Chicks. But none of them stuck the landing until Taylor, Carrie, and Miranda. 
 

Naturally, given the nature of the industry, it stands to reason that they would seek to find “the next Taylor Swift.” Her success probably drove lots of record labels to look for their own teen stars and young songwriters. Half of them probably flopped so badly we’ve never even heard of them. 

[Solaria]

I feel like if Dua got a ‘she’s flopping’ megathread then Taylor deserves a reverse flopping megathread as well

 

[Shinning]

Did she? Because in 2023 Taylor is the one talking about Kim while Kim is developing her career into further avenues and STILL a huge fashion icon (in a way Taylor will never be).

Kim is not interested in surpassing Taylor, they're not even in the same field

[ImpressMeMuch]

Sure if you view pop culture exclusively through a capitalist and financial lens

Edited December 6, 2023 by ImpressMeMuch
Typo

[Bloo]

57 minutes ago, Richie.Valdez said:

I am getting sick of Taylor Swift threads. Can @ATRL Administration create a Taylor Swift-only subforum? Is it possible? 

This is a very silly request. But, just responding to let you know that mentioning Admin any staff-wide account does literally nothing. We don’t get notifications of them. 

[Monster Queen]

She just makes songs related to most people, reaching most age groups, and that will forever be the key reason why an artist becomes more popular than others

Being a better vocalist/dancer doesn't mean your music is better, for the silent majority

Do you think people are self-thinking about all of this, reflecting themself on an artist, when they stream Blank Space/Cruel Summer on traffic? 

Edited December 6, 2023 by Monster Queen

[Bloo]

19 minutes ago, C-Amber said:

Everyone saying being a billionaire is bad, but non of you will reject being a billionaire, and if you had that money you'll never let it go.

I’d gladly be a billionaire and donate most of my money. You can literally give away the vast majority of that wealth and never work a day in your life while being very comfortable. There is no reason for anyone to hoard that much wealth while there are people without clean drinking water. 

[Khal]

37 minutes ago, Pendulum said:

she's the first ethical billionaire y'all!!! maybe second after Rih

Lol

[BILLIONAIRE✘BOY]

[dawnettakins]

Finally a stan with some principles when it comes to their fave 

[vale9001]

Could be an idea. Too much cultural domination and basically related news would be very thread worthy for everyone don't became posts cause then too much posts about her.

At the same time without Taylor what she should talk about in general forum? Only beyoncè can create some relevant discussion now and then... the rest this year just gave us new wigs. 

 

[theoghon]

Regardless she puts in the WORK, which deserves some respeck

 

...too bad she'll STAY under Taylor's (and ha fandom's) foot for ha malicious 2016-18 antics, blondie is NEVER letting that go

Edited December 6, 2023 by theoghon

[Kristie Kuwa]

3 minutes ago, Monster Queen said:

She just makes songs related to most people, reaching most age groups, and that will forever be the key reason why an artist becomes more popular than others

Being a better vocalist/dancer doesn't mean your music is better, for the silent majority

Do you think people are self-thinking about all of this, reflecting themself on an artist, when they stream Blank Space/Cruel Summer on traffic? 

To me its just interesting to observe it. Her success is enormous and is reaching hights literally only a very few select people have reached before.

I feel like her success especially grew expontentially during the pandemic - it correlated with the album she recorded then (Folklore + Evermore) plus her rerecordings. She literally created a universe during a time that most people felt isolated and abandonded. 

Her success has very little to do with her quality as a singer, but imho more so with so society itself

[JC.]

20 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

 

She has been desperate to became someone with a respected profile and impact on politics and something more than just someone pays a team to put her name on underwears (again she used Kanye relationship with Trump to going at the White House for something about the  prison reforms whatever...that wasn't  going anywhere mediatically cause really and she left it). 

 

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Once most notably known for her hit reality-TV show Keeping Up With The Kardashians, Kim Kardashian has since expanded her empire, using her large platform of over 350 million followersto advocate for causes that matter to her, like criminal justice reform. In 2018, she successfully lobbied for the release of an incarcerated woman, Alice Marie Johnson

https://time.com/collection/time100-summit-2023/6274254/kim-kardashian-skims-criminal-justice-time100-2023/
 

(using this source since Time matters now I guess) 

 

Kim is thriving. She didn’t lose anything. I am

not a fan whatsoever but these fan driven narratives are pathetic 

[GraceRandolph]

Her success has little to do with her music. Being a Swiftie is about the community, the lifestyle, the aesthetic. It’s a lifestyle brand. The goop of pop. 

[FolkLover1989]

26 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Just make one Taylor is the biggest artist in the history of recorded music megathread so they can circle jerk in there, it's tiring seeing the same thread 3 times a day. I'm counting 3 threads containing the words "Taylor" and "biggest" on the front page right now, I've never seen a fanbase more in need of validation in my life.

POTY is one of the biggest achievement 

 

No circlejerk here 

[Klein]

1. I 100% disagree that she's not putting on a good show. Her vocals are not great but they're decent. You are right about her dancing though. 

2. The most important aspect of it all is the music. And if you don't like her music is fine. But she's managed to connect emotionally with so many people that her songwriting skills are undeniable, and everyone in the industry is praising her for it. 

 

And honestly, nobody cares about being the best dancer or the best singer. Nobody thinks Madonna is one of the greatest because of her dancing, she's there because of her catalogue. Nobody thinks Beyoncé is one of the greatest because of her singing, she's there because of her catalogue. Does the dancing and singing add something? Yes, of course. But in the end, you can be the best dancer and singer, if the music don't follow, nobody cares. 

Edited December 6, 2023 by Klein

[KKW]

Kim has one of the most lucrative brands out right now that catapulted her into billionaire status (which was reported before Taylor’s). How/what did she lose again?

[OnlyManInTheWorld]

She’s just an adult movie star…

[Blue Skies]

I don’t even mind Taylor but as someone who can’t be bothered to go into each sub forum I don’t need the main page bogged down with a million variations of the same thread

 

[Cameltoe Chariot]

11 minutes ago, ImpressMeMuch said:

Sure if you view pop culture exclusively through a capitalist and financial lens

Oop! Thread over!

 

[Frozen99]

don't open them?

[Richie.Valdez]

1 minute ago, FolkLover1989 said:

POTY is one of the biggest achievement 

 

No circlejerk here 

Donald Trump was POTY as well. What's to brag? 

[Raptus]

It's fair compensation for having to deal with the most unhinged fanbase in history. Therapy isn't cheap  and she's gonna need it