celeb news Pollstar: Taylor Swift is biggest dominating artist in culture since prime MJ/Madonna

[By the Water]

Lil Nas X

[Solaria]

26 minutes ago, Raphy23 said:

Which pop girl was dominating at that time. I actually cannot remember. 

Taylor was because none of the girls had smash albums around this time. This was the era of Drake and XXXTentacion 

[Monster Queen]

1 minute ago, Infinite said:

no,adele 25 is.

Adele in 2016:

Around 20M SPS sold

160M tour box office

No movie box office

No Times POTY nominated

 

So no, she is not the biggest peak for any artist  Cause Taylor's 2023 demolishes her in every metrics

[poki]

Financially, yes. 

[Monster Queen]

2 minutes ago, swissman said:

It's possible, and certainly in THIS era it is the biggest peak insofar as numbers go, but I think what stops it from outright being "the biggest peak ever" is that her numbers are impressive due to the time she is at her peak.

 

If this were the 1950s, for example, she'd be nowhere near as numerically big (if comparing her to herself today, not necessarily other artists from the 1950s). The same can basically be said for any time before streaming, where album sales are now inflated by being compromised of both physicals (released in many multiples to get fans buying as many as they can) and daily streams as that is the main way people listen to music nowadays. In her case, being a very commercial, relatable and well managed artist, this has her seeing big success.

 

Of course, fans willing to buy albums in this time is no small feat, but we can't say that Beatles or Michael Jackson fans would not have acted the same way if they had the same avenues of consumption and commodities offered to them, and a key difference in their times is that once you buy an album, your statistical contributions to the artist stops until you buy another. You can go back and listen to their discography a thousand times, and still those individual album sales are all that is counted. Now, Taylor's fans and the GP can go listen to her entire discography at a whim, and any interaction contributes to another fraction of a sale, which in totality, adds up to more millions that someone like The Beatles or Michael Jackson never could achieve without consumption rules as we have today.

 

 

I agree with you, it's nonsense to compare her with the artist like Beatles or MJ or Madonna, they lived in completely different ages. The media works differently and so as the way of music consumption. But it's safe to say Taylor's 2023 is the biggest year for any artist in the 21st century, so far

[gatito]

there are some points that she has made

 

however i don't think taylor would've had a public feud with her so called replacements the way nicki did

[BILLIONAIRE✘BOY]

No lol

[Eternium]

No. Her fans are faking streams to manipulate her performance. You cannot compare Stationhead streaming to actual music consumption. Clicking “Play” and then muting your phone isn’t real consumption.

 

Taylor is undeniably massive, but she sold fewer albums than Stray Kids this year. Midnights is nothing compared to TF+M, Baby One More Time, Thriller, True Blue, The Bodyguard Soundtrack, Grease, Saturday Night Fever, Let’s Talk About Love, LZ4, Music Box or even her own 1989.

[alexrex]

11 minutes ago, Monster Queen said:

So why these artists are not selected as POTY of Times? an annual issue of the American news magazine and website Time featuring a person, a group, idea, or object that "for better or for worse... has done the most to influence the events of the year

I guess Times is a swiftie  

What is the long lasting real life impact of an artist like Taylor Swift in culture? 

 

Let's get real for a second. What we can see is that she's achieved a level of success because she is a skillful master of business. She has succeeded to sell her narrative in a way not many have done before. Monetary speaking, yes, she is on top of her game. 

 

But as an artist, when it comes to her craft, how is she the peak of what an artist can achieve? 

[GraceRandolph]

 

[Alexz]

@supaspazcan you make a Megatrhead about Taylor's peak and one about her being the biggest music act of all times?

[alexrex]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. 

 

It's insane that so much fortune can be in hands of a few. 

[TaggedGalaxy]

Tax her at 99%

[Richie.Valdez]

I am getting sick of Taylor Swift threads. Can @ATRL Administration create a Taylor Swift-only subforum? Is it possible? 

[liquiddiamonds]

Swiftologist got me cringing HARD 💀😭

[Klein]

46 minutes ago, truthteller said:

when she runs for the President of the US and everyone starts to call her war criminal

POTUS after POTY. 

[Bloodflowers.]

Yes, Meredith Brooks trying to replace Alanis Morissette and failing was the perfect example of this

[Taylor fanboy]

We know but still the video is cringe.

 

And yes, take our money Unethical Billionaire Queen!!!

[Kill Me]

9 minutes ago, Eternium said:

No. Her fans are faking streams to manipulate her performance. You cannot compare Stationhead streaming to actual music consumption. Clicking “Play” and then muting your phone isn’t real consumption.

 

Taylor is undeniably massive, but she sold fewer albums than Stray Kids this year. Midnights is nothing compared to TF+M, Baby One More Time, Thriller, True Blue, The Bodyguard Soundtrack, Grease, Saturday Night Fever, Let’s Talk About Love, LZ4, Music Box or even her own 1989.

 

 

 

 

She's dominating EVERY single streaming platform, not just spotify...

Time to put on your tin foil hat and come up with another excuse, Mr. QAnonterium.

[Monster Queen]

9 minutes ago, Eternium said:

No. Her fans are faking streams to manipulate her performance. You cannot compare Stationhead streaming to actual music consumption. Clicking “Play” and then muting your phone isn’t real consumption.

 

Taylor is undeniably massive, but she sold fewer albums than Stray Kids this year. Midnights is nothing compared to TF+M, Baby One More Time, Thriller, True Blue, The Bodyguard Soundtrack, Grease, Saturday Night Fever, Let’s Talk About Love, LZ4, Music Box or even her own 1989.

I don't see these album debut with 1.6M and then spending their first 60 weeks on the top 10 of BB200, and don't see these artists having an 1.5B tour  By your logic any artist post-2016 can't be compared with the previous one cause 'they're not real consumption'

[vale9001]

Ok.

[MidnightsAtPeace]

After her monumental achievements and incredibly undeniable relevance and dominance, are you still trying to ignore the fact that Taylor Swift is the biggest artist that has debuted this century???

Taylor has everything to support this title.

She's the most streamed female artist (soon to be the most streamed artist OVERALL) on Spotify.

She's a touring legend and possibly the biggest touring act of the century.

She's an album/single seller, especially in this climate where pure sells have gone to hell, yet She's selling albums and singles like hot cake.

She's the most talked about artist of the year all around the world, with universities honoring her by studying her artistry, TV shows honoring her by celebrating her career, presidents and mayors begging her to step foot into their country, people from different countries performing at gigs inspired by her career and tours, her inspiring a new generation of artists to write their own songs and own their art, her fighting with industry norms and artists rights, being named Person of the Decade two decades into her career, reaching new peaks everyday, not having a single "flop" album in her discography, and her having zero competition in the industry.

 

Some of the most unsubstantiated and baseless claims that she is a "local" artist or that she is culturally irrelevant were proven to be bullshit this last year.

It's ok to not like her or her music, but be honest with yourself, do you still think she's not the biggest artist of the century and possible among the most memorable legends of all time. (I'd even say she's top5 biggest musicians of ALL TIME) 

[Klein]

And he's right. 

[lonnie]

11 minutes ago, Eternium said:

No. Her fans are faking streams to manipulate her performance. You cannot compare Stationhead streaming to actual music consumption. Clicking “Play” and then muting your phone isn’t real consumption.

 

Taylor is undeniably massive, but she sold fewer albums than Stray Kids this year. Midnights is nothing compared to TF+M, Baby One More Time, Thriller, True Blue, The Bodyguard Soundtrack, Grease, Saturday Night Fever, Let’s Talk About Love, LZ4, Music Box or even her own 1989.

This is insane

Was this person leaving her songs playing while they slept

 

OT: It's certainly one of the biggest. She has certain advantages like releasing multiple albums within a year that the other artists didn't have, but she's still had a phenomenal year.

[Mr.X]

34 minutes ago, Cameltoe Chariot said:

I'm convinced at this point that this unprecedented peak will be followed by an unprecedented downfall.

The GP is about to be tested by the biggest overexposure yet in pop culture.

 

Let's hope that downfall is quck to arrive ffs

Edited December 6, 2023 by Mr.X