base talk Is Beyonce in the top 3 best performers of all time?

[Alexz]

19 hours ago, Lovett said:

There's always a reminder that no matter how insanely talented you are, no matter how crazily hard you work to be the absolute best at what you do, no matter how many years of dedication to improving your craft, there will always be bitter, hateful and delusional people on the Internet trying to tear you down. So sad. 

To be fair, he's kinda right, Beyoncé uses a lot of props. (And all pop stars do ok) [she looks fab in that handsy Venus outfit]

[swissman]

6 minutes ago, Alexz said:

haha I didn't mean it like that, but did notice that it could be perceived that way and left it as it was lol.

[Alexz]

6 minutes ago, swissman said:

haha I didn't mean it like that, but did notice that it could be perceived that way and left it as it was lol.

Well he ended up looking kinda feminine anyway

[swissman]

On 12/12/2023 at 9:51 PM, dumbsparce said:

Hardly. She relies too much on the dancers and the wind machine. Take those away and you're left with an ok tap dancer who throws severe looks at the crowd to give the impression that what she's doing is of great importance. No mention of the unpleasant goaty vocals.

Do we need to pull out "no dancers, no wind machine" receipts?

 

this is from before she even went solo:

 

 

 

Edited December 14, 2023 by swissman

[Chris]

38 minutes ago, Alexz said:

To be fair, he's kinda right, Beyoncé uses a lot of props.

Her voice is her prop.

 

Enough said.

[Lovett]

4 hours ago, Alexz said:

To be fair, he's kinda right, Beyoncé uses a lot of props. (And all pop stars do ok) [she looks fab in that handsy Venus outfit]

"Beyoncé uses a lot of props" *mentions an outfit*  God, your arguments are always so useless.

[Klein]

I think the real question should be whether or not she's the best but for the sake of this thread... of course.

[Kristie Kuwa]

Beys legacy is that someone like Tate cannot go on shows and just Playback but has to show ounces of live vocals to be deemed "legit".

That right there is Beyonces legacy. She is the reason we do not accept mere lipsyncing anymore.

 

Bey is a legend as a performer and no ONE, no matter past or present, was/is able to deliver Beychella. That was the best set anyone has ever played/performed.

[Starfish]

She is. 

[Wicked]

I don't have enough music knowledge across centuries and countries to confidently answer this question.

[superben]

No, but she's top 1 most overrated performer of all time  

[Jjang]

Top 10. 

[TipToe]

I think no one with an unbiased vision would deny she's def. a monster in the stage, the whole package, born to do it etc., but i believe there's some justice to be done to the pioneers and older top tier performers because they are the blueprint and Beyonce wouldnt be who she is without the influence of the greats that came before her. That being said, i like to think that she's probably the best one of her generation and in an all time list she would sit in the top 10 with easy, or even a top 5 depending on the factors more valued.

[FightDragonsWithMe]

She's certainly the best performer out of her peers. 

[DonnaSpring]

Top 5 all / Top 3 Female 

 

1. Michael Jackson

2. Madonna

3. Prince

4. Tina Turner

5. Beyoncé

6. Lady Gaga

7. Janet Jackson 

8. Britney Spears

 

[slw84]

I'd say top 3 or top 5 at worse but we are not going to deny her strengths now.

 

We might have a go at her weaknesses but you should be just as quick to build someone up on strengths if you are quick to tear them down on weaknesses.

[Into The Void]

On 12/14/2023 at 1:46 AM, Kristie Kuwa said:

Beys legacy is that someone like Tate cannot go on shows and just Playback but has to show ounces of live vocals to be deemed "legit".

That right there is Beyonces legacy. She is the reason we do not accept mere lipsyncing anymore.

 

Bey is a legend as a performer and no ONE, no matter past or present, was/is able to deliver Beychella. That was the best set anyone has ever played/performed.

Lol. Yes we do 

[Kristie Kuwa]

8 hours ago, DonnaSpring said:

Top 5 all / Top 3 Female 

 

1. Michael Jackson

2. Madonna

3. Prince

4. Tina Turner

5. Beyoncé

6. Lady Gaga

7. Janet Jackson 

8. Britney Spears

 

Shes better than Madonna. Shes her student that surpassed her

[Kristie Kuwa]

On 12/14/2023 at 9:14 PM, TipToe said:

I think no one with an unbiased vision would deny she's def. a monster in the stage, the whole package, born to do it etc., but i believe there's some justice to be done to the pioneers and older top tier performers because they are the blueprint and Beyonce wouldnt be who she is without the influence of the greats that came before her. That being said, i like to think that she's probably the best one of her generation and in an all time list she would sit in the top 10 with easy, or even a top 5 depending on the factors more valued.

So Mozart is the top performer of all time?

[ThousandMiles]

Absolutely 

[Chris]

I don't care, I just want her to extend the Renaissance Tour again.

 

[Alexz]

4 hours ago, Insanity said:

Lol. Yes we do 

Beyoncé herself is always lipsyncing to prerecorded "live" vocals even at that Grammy performance she put her mic down and the voice was still playing.

[DonnaSpring]

8 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Shes better than Madonna. Shes her student that surpassed her

nope, Madonna is much more versatile in her performances 

[Taemira]

There are so many K-Pop artists who are better performers than her and all the other western pop girls out there so I can't really say yes to the question.

[slayyyterslut]

Along with Madonna and Tina Turner, yes.