Lemon Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Perfect Blue said: and it’s a. incredibly valid point whether you like it or not, swiffer. all eyes are on Taylor and she is at the peak of her career. a simple mention from her could save thousands of lives. Do you actually believe that?
Lemon Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Sannie said: An absolutely pathetic reach trying to act like she is dong something for the people of Gaza by attending a comedy show... If you are this desperate for her to show some kind of support then you should be holding her feet to the fire to use her BILLION dollars to do something, anything. There is no evidence she even knows about the show's proceeds. And what do you think she should do? What effect do you see happening after her doing “something, anything” you think she should be doing?
FOCK Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Lemon said: Do you actually believe that? Yes, actually. A significant reason why SA apartheid fell apart, was it got expensive + optics. 11 minutes ago, Lemon said: And what do you think she should do? What effect do you see happening after her doing “something, anything” you think she should be doing? As per reports that she has the power to revitalise economies & arguably being the most famous, celebrated & influential celebrity in the world at this juncture, with favourability to run for the joke of a position called the US presidency, she could legitimately have devastating ramifications to Israel’s economy & funding, by simply calling for a boycott or speaking out against genocide. It’s quite a tangible goal that Palestinian & peace keeping organisations have consistently called for. She doesn’t need to do much more than type a message on her iPhone & press send. Edited December 10, 2023 by FOCK 1 1
Happylittlepunk Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 Taylor financially supporting charities to help Gaza is more meaningful than making a statement just to get likes on social media it will do nothing other than get backlash. I always been a supporter of actions speak louder than words. Taylor is doing good for this. More celebrities should follow her example instead of speaking about such issues they actually know very little about. 1 9
chiliam Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Perfect Blue said: and it’s a. incredibly valid point whether you like it or not, swiffer. all eyes are on Taylor and she is at the peak of her career. a simple mention from her could save thousands of lives. oh woa you`re doing a good job, keep doing that and demand all these celebs to speak about it rather than the political leaders 1 2
Trent W Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Perfect Blue said: and it’s a. incredibly valid point whether you like it or not, swiffer. all eyes are on Taylor and she is at the peak of her career. a simple mention from her could save thousands of lives. Oh calm down lmao Celebrities are not that important I stan her, but even her whose the most powerful right now, can’t do ****. People wanting celebs to speak up and bullying Selena Gomez are wasting a massive amount of time Go after politicians. Edited December 10, 2023 by Trent W 4
Lemon Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, FOCK said: Yes, actually. A significant reason why SA apartheid fell apart, was it got expensive + optics. As per reports that she has the power to revitalise economies & arguably being the most famous, celebrated & influential celebrity in the world at this juncture, with favourability to run for the joke of a position called the US presidency, she could legitimately have devastating ramifications to Israel’s economy & funding, by simply calling for a boycott or speaking out against genocide. It’s quite a tangible goal that Palestinian & peace keeping organisations have consistently called for. She doesn’t need to do much more than type a message on her iPhone & press send. This sounds great, but you are obviously aware it won’t work, especially going by your last sentence that seems like everything you have “suggested” sounds like walk in the park kind of easy while knowing perfectly well it’s not. Maybe we should also expect from her ( and similar others ) to put an end to Russia-Ukraine war as well with the others conflicts out there. If people really think non-political figures can resolve world’s conflicts, then we definitely have more big problems lined up. 3 1
FOCK Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Lemon said: This sounds great, but you are obviously aware it won’t work, especially going by your last sentence that seems like everything you have “suggested” sounds like walk in the park kind of easy while knowing perfectly well it’s not. Maybe we should also expect from her ( and similar others ) to put an end to Russia-Ukraine war as well with the others conflicts out there. If people really think non-political figures can resolve world’s conflicts, then we definitely have more big problems lined up. Nobody legitimately thinks Taylor Swift is going to end this. You asked what she should do, and that is the most impactful contribution she can make right now. A stance against genocide should not be “political”. Attending this show is a nice gesture, and as I said, sadly, it’s more than most have done, but isn’t what the moment is calling for, or maximising her influence. Edited December 10, 2023 by FOCK 4
Miss Fortune Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Peroxide said: Well… it’s something! I really would love to see her make a donation to help assist with medical aid… she’s probably never going to speak on this directly (as much as I’d like her to) but she’s got the means to give a significant contribution… And the same goes for all our other multimillionaire pop girlies… How do you know what someone has donated? I find this sort of stance crazy from fans and the GP in public about celebs. I donate to charity and have never once posted about it publicly. I am sure plenty of celebrities donate hugs sums of their earnings without ever mentioning it. 1
Slayn Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 Honestly, her first serve in a while. Hopefully this leads to a public show of support for Palestine.
Lemon Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, FOCK said: Nobody legitimately thinks Taylor Swift is going to end this. You asked what she should do, and that is the most impactful contribution she can make right now. A stance against genocide should not be “political”. Attending this show is a nice gesture, and as I said, sadly, it’s more than most have done, but passive support of this manner isn’t what the moment is calling for. Well, contribution and effective method are different things. Her contribution may be the heftiest, but I fail to see what effectively positive results would follow. Taylor’s status is due to her music, not because of her politics or her political capacity. We are not talking about mega powerful political figure not doing anything here, which we should be talking about actually. Many popular celebrites from different branches have contributed one way or another during different tough local or global world situations in the past, but nothing has ever resulted to positive end thanks to it. 1
SignificantOther Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 Not enough. She should speak out. And yes, my fave should too. 1
WildHeart Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Great808 said: Someone should show her what they do to her album covers in Muslim countries. Giving "they don't support gays so let them bomb hundreds of children" dumbness
SmittenCake Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 A few hours ago I was actually thinking if she would do anything at all and now she does this. I can never hate this woman. Especially since she went out of her way to help Kesha financially. TS is also friends with the Hadid sisters; she knows what's up.
aesthetic bih Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 It's a step in the right direction, but I hope she doesn't stick with this only. She can help in so many other more impactful ways.
Cain Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Great808 said: Someone should show her what they do to her album covers in Muslim countries. Someone should tell you you’re an absolute waste of air if you don’t like people standing up against genocides just because you hate Muslims
Velvet Night Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 Great to see her financially supporting a charity to help Gaza! Actions speak louder than words 1
Cain Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Trent W said: Oh calm down lmao Celebrities are not that important I stan her, but even her whose the most powerful right now, can’t do ****. People wanting celebs to speak up and bullying Selena Gomez are wasting a massive amount of time Go after politicians. Y’all never realise how stupid you sound coming on here and bragging about ‘the music industry’ and ‘the most powerful woman’ etc etc then turn around and say ‘celebrities don’t matter’ when it comes to actual important issues Yes, she’s not a politician, but politicians aren’t influenced by other politicians. They’re influenced by public opinion and the media, two domains Taylor has major impact on. She just got named POTY by Time, a spot reserved for presidents and dictators. To say Taylor Swift has no influence on the average American citizen is absolutely bullshit. Celebrities can influence public opinion or bring awareness to causes, which can in turn mobilize citizens, which influences political agenda’s. That’s how it goes 1 2
Letemtalk Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Shendelzare said: is Selena the only one supporting Israel in her group?!?! I'm sure there were some who signed the letter supporting Biden, and his "unshakable moral conviction and leadership". That was pretty much a "keep bombing" letter. OT - I won't shade Taylor here, not that I think she will save thousands of lives, like some have suggested, but by openly supporting a humanitarian relief for Gaza event, she is doing more than the majority of celebrities have.
Peak Now Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Cain said: politicians aren’t influenced by other politicians What in the Aaron Sorkin-esque naivete? 1 1 1
State of Grace. Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) That's nice, and sadly more than most celebs of her calibre would do. I don't think framing it as if she's donating to Gaza works here though. I do wish that she'd directly address the situation, even an IG story from her would suffice, but Tree probably said enough activism for the month! Edited December 10, 2023 by State of Grace. 2
BionicWooHoo Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 If she allegedly was able to get 1 million ppl to register to vote, imagine she got 1 million ppl to call their reps and reminded ppl that it takes under five minutes to call both senators and your house rep. Like yea, every day and every second in which there is no ceasefire more lives are lost so it literally is not an exaggeration to suggest that she could literally save thousands of lives
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