Psyduck Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, shakeyourbombom said: The Chantaje’s certifications speak for itself. It even became the first Spanish female song to earn a certification in the UK, a country where only focuses on music in English. Yes, they speak to the fact that in the streaming era they don't mean the same thing. The average Brit does NOT know Chantaje sis. It was not a real hit there.
shakeyourbombom Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Psyduck said: Yes, they speak to the fact that in the streaming era they don't mean the same thing. The average Brit does NOT know Chantaje sis. It was not a real hit there. I didn’t say it was a hit in the UK but it has audiences listened to it. That’s why it’s silver certified. As simple as that. Meanwhile it was a hit in mainland Europe.
vuelve88 Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 On 12/19/2023 at 7:30 PM, Psyduck said: Yes, I know she charted in the Top 10 on Billboard this year. But that was because of how huge of a % of America is now Latino. America as a whole was not listening to her. All of your comments reek of xenophobia toward Latinos. Throughout, you continue to discredit Shakira’s success, effectively saying “streams from Latinos don’t really count and it’s not a true hit until White people consume it”. Shakira had the #1 song on Billboard’s Global 200 Chart this year with TQG. Shakira’s Bizarrap song debuted at #1 on Spotify with over 14 million streams in 24 hours, the second highest debut of 2023. The song was #2 on Billboard’s Global 200 Chart. Shakira was the #1 searched for musician in the world in Google’s Year in Search and her Bizarrap song was #3 in the songs category, meaning she commanded great interest globally. 1
DestroyAndSmile Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, Psyduck said: Please, that song was not huge in continental Europe. Streaming age has totally changed what certifications are worth. It was at best a minor hit with the Spanish-speaking diaspora. Whereas Madonna was getting SMASH hits playing everywhere globally at the same point like Music, Hung Up, 4 Minutes. Too bad that all the other girlies can't get any platinum certifications if it's that easy. Edited December 22, 2023 by DestroyAndSmile
Eternium Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 On 12/20/2023 at 12:51 AM, Mystic Boy said: You're so pathetic,and the fact you think you're this smart when you're an embarrassing big joke known by everyone here Imagine how dumb you can be for thinking I'm a Madonna hater when all i did was highlighting your blatant bigotry downplaying Shakira latin success at the beginning of her career Also,you probably thinking that putting a Madonna avatar is some kind of "trick" from me? "hiding" behind Madonna kind of bullshit? oh my This weird ass meltdown because you tried to call me racist and got clocked for it. Maybe you should stop spending 20+ years on a forum if you’re going to be this fragile and mad when you get called out for toxic behavior. On 12/20/2023 at 9:15 AM, vuelve88 said: I agree. Eternium is being willfully oblivious, acting as if Shakira's early albums didn't dominate the market they were intended for. It doesn't make sense to compare two different albums that have completely different markets and audience potential. Shakira's 1996 "Pies Descalzos" album and its singles did as well as a Spanish language album could have done at the time, and was considered a big success for its market. She was already doing ads for Pepsi in 1998. You could find her face on Pepsi cans throughout Latin America. It was commonly understood that to pull album numbers like English language artists, you would need to release an English album. Eternium is acting like Shakira should have been magically getting Shania Twain "Come On Over" level album sales. You’re putting words in my mouth. Shakira was coming off the back of two bomb albums and her third album pulled just two million copies sold in 1996. I recognize that it wouldn’t have the same expectations for sales as an English album, but at the same time, if people are going to say that 12M+ selling albums and the highest grossing female tours at the time didn’t count as signs of Madonna’s longevity, then 2M+ album sales shouldn’t count, either. 19 hours ago, shakeyourbombom said: I’m just saying your numbers are not right 450K in Colombia? It has a Diamond certification. 1.2M in Brazil was reported by Billboard twice. Billboard doesn’t track numbers. They never have and they never will. Can you post sources for the sales? I know her label announced 3M shipments in 1997 after global distribution had begun. 1
constantinople Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) On 12/9/2023 at 7:12 PM, Great808 said: Shakira stayed in her lane and to her ethnic audience "ethnic audience" in the United States. That's not the world. She's loved, successful and known in most of Europe, West Asia and Latin America though. That's lowkey xenophobic. Edited December 23, 2023 by constantinople
Lorelei Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 No one has surpassed Madonna and nobody will come close to her impact as a female artist in pop music, this thread was clearly a set-up. However, downplaying Shakira's success and constantly belittling her worldwide appeal by claiming she's only popular in South America is factually false , aside from xenophobic. 3 1
romas_ld Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 4:46 PM, romas_ld said: Yeah I don’t think she even has one the downvotes you guys never get the obvious sarcasm
Mr. Loco Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/23/2023 at 10:06 AM, Lorelei said: No one has surpassed Madonna and nobody will come close to her impact as a female artist in pop music, this thread was clearly a set-up. However, downplaying Shakira's success and constantly belittling her worldwide appeal by claiming she's only popular in South America is factually false , aside from xenophobic. You clearly didn't read the title, this is not about impact as a female artist in pop music, is about longevity 1
lindomarjuniorg Posted January 3 Posted January 3 More than 30 years of career, always remaining in the media, hitting in every era he has had, he has adapted very well to cassette, CD, streams, sales and world tours. Successful in everything she set out to do and continues to break records and be one of the greatest artists in the world, they only insist on putting her in the "Latin artist" box out of xenophobia, as she already surpassed that barrier a long time ago.
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