base talk Has Shakira surpassed Madonna longevity wise?

[Chris]

Nope.

 

Not even close.

[Geraldine]

madonna sweetie

[God_Donna]

No one will stop GODDONNA 

[romas_ld]

9 hours ago, Punky Rooster said:

Whenever Wherever, Underneath your Clothes and Objection were all big, but everything else has been duets or features or only local hits.

Big where?  She’s always been local only in Colombia.

[LikeaRebel]

No. I love Shakira though. 

[Mystic Boy]

Love Shakira and her longevity is incredible but none can be compared to Madonna. 

[vuelve88]

Madonna is still touring while Shakira is vacationing in Miami and delaying her album and tour for as long as possible. 

[AvadaKedavra]

Shakira domination : 90s-2000s-2010s-2020s (Still charting with english and spanish singles) = 4 decades of domination
Beyonce domination : 90s-2000s-2010s-2020s = 4 decades of domination
Madonna domination : 80s-90s-2000s-2010s-2020s (Really strong album wise and Tour wise great numbers)  = 5 decades of domination
Taylor Swift domination : 2000s-2010s-2020s = 3 Decades of domination

Madonna is clearly the winner here  
5 Decades of power and still moving and breakin boundaries. 

I dont if yll realize but Shakira is also a Madonna fan since childhood.
She's one of her biggest female influences with Donna Summer
 

Shaki talkin about how majestic is madonna (Spanish)
 

 

Edited December 10, 2023 by AvadaKedavra

[Mitsouko]

Shakira international breakthrough: less than 25 years ago

Madonna international breakthrough: almost 40 years ago

Shakira last global hit: almost a decade after breakthrough 

Madonna last global hit: almost a quarter century after breakthrough 

 

[Raptus]

When Celebration Tour is done it will gross $250M. Can Shakira earn even 100? 

 

[Sergi91]

22 hours ago, Cheers said:

No. Shakira is just a better trend hopper and thief. Every single one of her hits since the last decade have been collaborations/features.

[blueberries]

Yeah, Madonna hasn't been relevant since the 90's

[poki]

Her tour stats are a joke so...

[Ron Ng]

On 12/10/2023 at 5:02 AM, k4rmabutterfly said:

Shakira has been consistently getting successful singles and albums since 1995 (28 years)

 

Madonna lasted from 1983 to 2009 (26 years)

Of course Madonna is way more successful overall but is Shakira officially the new queen of longevity? Discuss.

 

Madonna has one of the highest grossing tours of all time in 2012 so she lasted 29 years though

[shakeyourbombom]

On 12/11/2023 at 7:11 AM, Hey Dude said:

Her tour stats are a joke so...

Because she didn’t report most of her shows. Only 190/ 420 shows were reported. 
She’s the first among her peers to gross over 100M on tour mind you

[Nebur]

I'm sure that everyone who drags Shakira because of her tour numbers next year will eat their words

 

[UnusualBoy]

Girl…

[Eternium]

If Shakira was successful in 1996, then Madonna was successful every year of her career  

[Alexz]

On 12/11/2023 at 12:52 AM, blueberries said:

Yeah, Madonna hasn't been relevant since the 90's

She stopped being relevant in 1983 actually.

[shakeyourbombom]

6 minutes ago, Eternium said:

If Shakira was successful in 1996, then Madonna was successful every year of her career  

She was successful hun

Selling over a million copies in Brazil, Colombia, US and probably Mexico (wait for her certification update). Some artists don’t even have a million sold record outside of US and UK.

[XtiRih]

On 12/9/2023 at 11:20 PM, Cheers said:

No. Shakira is just a better trend hopper and thief. Every single one of her hits since the last decade have been collaborations/features.

 

[Mystic Boy]

7 hours ago, Eternium said:

If Shakira was successful in 1996, then Madonna was successful every year of her career  

The undercover racism

The girl was HUGE in LATAM but we shouldn't care cause it's not the Anglosphere? 

[tiagol88]

Can we stop pretending MDNA was this huge flop? 2012 Madonna was getting Golden Globes, she had a record breaking super bowl half time show that paved the way to y'alls faves, did the 2nd biggest female tour ever at the time and MDNA still managed to sell over 2M copies WW 

 

Madonna was 54 back then. 

[Eternium]

On 12/15/2023 at 3:27 AM, Mystic Boy said:

The undercover racism

The girl was HUGE in LATAM but we shouldn't care cause it's not the Anglosphere? 

The desperation to be a victim. We all know you’re only pretending to support Shakira because the Lady Gaga stan in you hates Madonna  

 

PD sold 3.7M and Thieves sold 4.38M. But we’re arguing that Madonna has no longevity because her 11th album American Life did 3.375M, COADF did 9.325M, Hard Candy did 3.65M, MDNA did 1.85M, Rebel Heart did 900k and Madame X did ~200k. And that’s ignoring any TEAs/SEAs for Madonna.

On 12/14/2023 at 7:46 PM, shakeyourbombom said:

She was successful hun

Selling over a million copies in Brazil, Colombia, US and probably Mexico (wait for her certification update). Some artists don’t even have a million sold record outside of US and UK.

I didn’t say she wasn’t successful. I said that if you consider a first studio album selling 3.7M to be a sign of longevity, then how can we exclude a 12th studio album selling 9.325M and say that’s not successful?

[Mystic Boy]

3 hours ago, Eternium said:

The desperation to be a victim. We all know you’re only pretending to support Shakira because the Lady Gaga stan in you hates Madonna  

 

PD sold 3.7M and Thieves sold 4.38M. But we’re arguing that Madonna has no longevity because her 11th album American Life did 3.375M, COADF did 9.325M, Hard Candy did 3.65M, MDNA did 1.85M, Rebel Heart did 900k and Madame X did ~200k. And that’s ignoring any TEAs/SEAs for Madonna.

I didn’t say she wasn’t successful. I said that if you consider a first studio album selling 3.7M to be a sign of longevity, then how can we exclude a 12th studio album selling 9.325M and say that’s not successful?

You're deeply deeply sick man