news "#HamasIsISIS" and more exposed as multi-million $ media campaign via Silicon Valley

[Headlock]

2 hours ago, Dephira said:

 

And before you quote me with a lame “no u” comeback, I talked about Israeli violence on this very page. The pro Hamas faction on this site 

Genuine question: do you think anyone buys this both-sides rhetoric anymore? Especially when framing people as “pro-Hamas” 

[Gaia]

4 hours ago, Mr.X said:

They are fighting an occupying, genocidal state. Under international law, they are literally not 'terrorists', but resistance groups who have committed war crimes, for sure. Just because the USA and EU likes to lable them as 'terrorists', it doesn't make them so other than for propaganda reasons in order to validate Israel crimes.

 

That doesnt mean they havent committed awful things too, for sure.

 

If one day the USA and UK decided to build a state on top of the one you lived in, and you and your family were forcebly removed from your home, left with little rights and were confined to an open air prison without your consent, and continuously enforced on-going apartheid and genocidal laws on you and your loved ones, Im sure you would also call yourself a freedom fighter instead of a terrorist, no?

 

If not, that's on you

Still a terrorist no matter what justification you think you have sorry. 

[A.R.L]

5 hours ago, Zoomer said:

 

Civilians? I don’t think they did

 

[Cyanide]

Oh so when I was saying that they all have the same 4 talking points and must’ve all taken the same PR class it was literally real oh wow

[Zoomer]

13 minutes ago, A.R.L said:

 

Hmmm lemme wonder. Am I going to believe a woman who I’ve never heard of or seen before sharing her story (could be a paid actress for all I care) or will I believe the footage of the mutilated babies that Israel bombed or Hamas hostages testimonies that I’ve personally seen on social media? The GP are waking up to Israels fake try-hard propaganda. 

[RunUpDoneUp]

This entire affair is gonna be a STAPLE history lesson on the american richies ACTIVE part in the genocide that everyone was against but the nazis.

 

This is gonna sour the young against the western establishment left so bad.

[ClashAndBurn]

4 hours ago, Dephira said:

Not you saying this directly after I quoted someone who’s definitely not a Zionist. 
 

I don’t understand why all keyboard warriors lately have to act like Hamas are perfect angels and Freedom Fighters who have never done anything wrong, such as the user I quote. 
 

And before you quote me with a lame “no u” comeback, I talked about Israeli violence on this very page. The pro Hamas faction on this site still has yet to admit that Hamas blew up Al Ahli Hospital, even after parading the NYT’s retracted account of it being Israel’s fault up and down this website. 

Y’all stay clinging to the ONE hospital (that was actually claimed to be an accidental victim of a PIJ rocket and not Hamas, by the way), when all of this has happened in the last two months. Absolutely deplorable and predictable Zionist apologia.

 

[Letemtalk]

On 12/9/2023 at 4:55 AM, ugo said:

I don't get why Palestinians can't dissociate themselves from Hamas group 

Because no-one else is standing up for the rights of the Palestinians.

 

The United States certainly isn't doing anything to support human rights, Joe Biden just wants to see more bombs killing children.
I bet he's one of those sick old fuckers that gets off on seeing children in pain.

 

The British Labour leader Keir Starmer won't stand up for the rights of the Palestinians either.

 

He knows what genocide is and he argued that Serbian forces were guilty of genocide in their attacks on Vukovar in Croatia. This was an attack that had a lot in common with the siege on Gaza, including attacks on the local hospital, something which he uses to argue the case that it was genocide in Croatia.

 

But Keir Starmer is a racist who can only see war crimes and genocide when the victims are white people.

 

Germany isn't going to help, they're busy supporting the genocide and ethnic cleansing and passing laws to criminalise anyone that disagrees. Same old Germany except they've got a new scapegoat to blame for everything.

 

Most of the surrounding countries in the middle east, like Egypt and Saudi Arabia won't do anything either, because they are too corrupt and are motivated by fear and greed. Egypt would be punished by the US, who supply billions in aid and Saudi Arabia can see the potential financial gains for the ruling class and access to advanced weapons, if they support the policies of the US government.

 

When Hamas are the only people supporting the Palestinians, you can't realistically expect them to reject Hamas.

 

Perhaps a better question might be, why can't Israeli people dissociate themselves from a long history of electing political leaders who support occupation, ethnic cleansing and apartheid?

[Mr.X]

14 hours ago, Gaia said:

Still a terrorist no matter what justification you think you have sorry. 

Nope. It is a resistance group that is fighting an occupation. They have every right to resist.

 

They have, for sure, committed war crimes, recognised under international law. And that is horrific, but at the end of the day they are an occupied and oppressed group fighting a genocidal fascist government.

 

The only terrorirsts here, commiting war crimes and international law violations are the Israeli government and the USA.

 

You might not like it, but that's just a fact. Maybe drink less of the US-Israeli propaganda.

[KeshaSwift]

Hamas is a terrorist organisation. That’s a plain fact. What’s your point?

this tweet has no credibility too

[Communion]

7 minutes ago, KeshaSwift said:

this tweet has no credibility too

 

On 12/8/2023 at 9:22 AM, Communion said:

The literal Whatsapp messages, video call recordings, and statements given by the people when reached out by Lee Fang are literally all first person direct sources.  A contact had added both Fang and his co-reporter to the chat and they themselves screenshotted the conversations provided and screen-recorded the unlisted YouTube videos that were shared amongst this chat of key pro-Israel tech figures. 

 

Please, if you're questioning the reporting of Lee Fang of all people, you're out of your depth and have no understanding of modern journalism's power players. Genuinely you sound not only unread but ignorant. 

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[Mr. Mendes]

The zionists on this website are truly some of the most brain dead individuals I’ve ever met. Like wow those brain cells are STARVING for oxygen.  

[Phaunzie]

It has a name, Hasbara. Literally this is not brand new information

[Domination]

Water = wet.

 

This conflict has revealed that the majority of the online population has no idea how to interface with politics without being an ideologue. The only honorable stance to take is to be against violence which is currently disproportionately affecting Gazans and Palestinians at large. This thread and the mega thread is evidence of that.

[ClashAndBurn]

On 12/8/2023 at 6:52 PM, Letemtalk said:

But Keir Starmer is a racist who can only see war crimes and genocide when the victims are white people.

The same is true with the entirety of the Biden Administration who have been screaming and crying about Russia doing a genocide in Ukraine for almost two years, but are actively downplaying atrocities in Gaza in order to provide diplomatic cover for Israel.

[C-Amber]

On 12/8/2023 at 6:34 PM, Delirious said:

hey quick question, just because there was a reason Hamas attacked on October 7th - it doesn't make it right and why did they have to target civilians? And why is it so hard for some of you to condemn it?

 

thats like asking "hey quick question, why do you think the IDF attacked after the October 7 attacks?"

 

You are completely delusional if you think a country and nation who suffered for +70 years from killing, abuse, rape, torture, kidnapping, unfairness, stolen land, stolen homes, and all the worst thing anyone can imagine till the point Isreal soldiers made documentaries, books and shows about how they enjoyed raping 8 years old girl, all of that happened and you think there won't be no reaction at some point? No self defense? No anger? No hate? And don't come here saying there are peaceful ways for that! Palestinians have done that, asked for peace, stand for peace, merch for peace and the result? Every time they gathered together for peace, Isreal will counter back by shooting and killing them. And what world leaders do about all the killing for +70 years? They give Isreal billions of dollars every year. So shut the **** up about what's the right way or not when Isreal terrorism took all the right thing and world watch them do that without holding them accountable.

 

Oh I guess you just want Palestinians to take all the hate, let them kill my family, go ahead rape my daughter, torture my son, kill my father, abuse my mother, take my home, but hey I'm not allowed to be mad at it? I'm not allowed to fight, even if I tried to protest peacefully you might shoot me dead or put me in jail. But God forbidden I give any counter attack?

[OneInAMillion1]

10 hours ago, C-Amber said:

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You are completely delusional if you think a country and nation who suffered for +70 years from killing, abuse, rape, torture, kidnapping, unfairness, stolen land, stolen homes, and all the worst thing anyone can imagine till the point Isreal soldiers made documentaries, books and shows about how they enjoyed raping 8 years old girl, all of that happened and you think there won't be no reaction at some point? No self defense? No anger? No hate? And don't come here saying there are peaceful ways for that! Palestinians have done that, asked for peace, stand for peace, merch for peace and the result? Every time they gathered together for peace, Isreal will counter back by shooting and killing them. And what world leaders do about all the killing for +70 years? They give Isreal billions of dollars every year. So shut the **** up about what's the right way or not when Isreal terrorism took all the right thing and world watch them do that without holding them accountable.

 

Oh I guess you just want Palestinians to take all the hate, let them kill my family, go ahead rape my daughter, torture my son, kill my father, abuse my mother, take my home, but hey I'm not allowed to be mad at it? I'm not allowed to fight, even if I tried to protest peacefully you might shoot me dead or put me in jail. But God forbidden I give any counter attack?

LIES. Israeli soldiers raping 8 years old girl? Show receipts. For now, it's the Palestinians monsters who raped and killed innocent girls and women on October 7th. 

Gaza gets billions of dollars, too unfortunately, the money stays with Hamas people. Look at their net worth. 

Nobody is raping these Palestinians people you are the delusional one. 

Hamas could end this by giving back the hostages - why they don't do that ??? They don't care about their own people !

[Communion]

1 hour ago, OneInAMillion1 said:

Nobody is raping these Palestinians people you are the delusional one. 

 

[OneInAMillion1]

1 hour ago, Communion said:

 

I call that BS. And one example doesn’t create a whole narrative of Israeli soldiers raping these Palestinian people 

 

also I find it really hard to believe cos Palestinian are very ugly so really there’s no way !