MoonGoodandHappy Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, aesthetic bih said: I'm so damn sick of Selena. Money changed her. She's so disappointing "she has not the same opinion as me, how dare she ? i'm so disappointed" We cannot attack a country and expect them not to defend themselves. Edited December 10, 2023 by MoonGoodandHappy 1 1 6
aesthetic bih Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, MoonGoodandHappy said: "she has not the same opinion as me, how dare she ? i'm so disappointed" We cannot attack a country and expect them not to defend themselves. Diss =/= Opinion It's one thing to "choose sides", but Selena is being insensitive and rude here. But if that's the kind of person you wanna defend and justify, then go on and be my guess... 1
XXI. Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 Can I ask a serious question...? Why do people expect Selena Gomez or really any celebrity to make a public statement about Palestine or a world event? Most celebrities are uneducated. They hardly made it through high school. Not to mention they just don't live in the real world... Selena probably doesn't even know how much a gallon of milk costs. I think Selena's point is like why are you looking to me to talk about this - I literally sing silly pop songs that I'm not even capable of writing for myself... you expect me to articulate a well thought response to a genocide? Not to drag her, because I am a Selena fan... but like 1
Blue Monday Posted December 10, 2023 Author Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, XXI. said: Can I ask a serious question...? Why do people expect Selena Gomez or really any celebrity to make a public statement about Palestine or a world event? Most celebrities are uneducated. They hardly made it through high school. Not to mention they just don't live in the real world... Selena probably doesn't even know how much a gallon of milk costs. I think Selena's point is like why are you looking to me to talk about this - I literally sing silly pop songs that I'm not even capable of writing for myself... you expect me to articulate a well thought response to a genocide? Not to drag her, because I am a Selena fan... but like Well for starters, she’s a UNICEF ambassador. Apparently she also spoke out in support of Palestine years ago (I don’t remember this but I’ve seen a lot of people saying so). But she could have just continued to be silent like a number of celebrities were, and that would have been disappointing. However it’s when she posted those ignorant IG stories about how she wasn’t using her platform, and when she was liking Amy Schumer’s Zionist propaganda that it really become a problem 4
BeingRicardo Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Blue Monday said: Well for starters, she’s a UNICEF ambassador. Apparently she also spoke out in support of Palestine years ago (I don’t remember this but I’ve seen a lot of people saying so). But she could have just continued to be silent like a number of celebrities were, and that would have been disappointing. However it’s when she posted those ignorant IG stories about how she wasn’t using her platform, and when she was liking Amy Schumer’s Zionist propaganda that it really become a problem Amy Schumer posts was not zionist, in fact, it was quite neutral, of course some facts were wrong but not all of them, she was probably getting educated and read some missinformation, her post on IG was not pro-israel she just worded it badly but if you remove the hashtag thing is was pretty good. I feel like people os overreacting in all this situation, the hate train for her goes beyond palestine. She probably didn't even know the watermelon emoji was bc of Palestine 2 2 3
Blue Monday Posted December 10, 2023 Author Posted December 10, 2023 2 hours ago, BeingRicardo said: Amy Schumer posts was not zionist, in fact, it was quite neutral, of course some facts were wrong but not all of them, she was probably getting educated and read some missinformation, her post on IG was not pro-israel she just worded it badly but if you remove the hashtag thing is was pretty good. I feel like people is overreacting in all this situation, the hate train for her goes beyond palestine. She probably didn't even know the watermelon emoji was bc of Palestine Just wanted you to know that I stopped reading after this sentence because you have no idea what you’re talking about 1
aesthetic bih Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 16 hours ago, XXI. said: Can I ask a serious question...? Why do people expect Selena Gomez or really any celebrity to make a public statement about Palestine or a world event? Most celebrities are uneducated. They hardly made it through high school. Not to mention they just don't live in the real world... Selena probably doesn't even know how much a gallon of milk costs. I think Selena's point is like why are you looking to me to talk about this - I literally sing silly pop songs that I'm not even capable of writing for myself... you expect me to articulate a well thought response to a genocide? Not to drag her, because I am a Selena fan... but like So what you're saying it because of their celebrity status, they are exempted from caring about global issues and they can be ignorant without consequences? Even regular people are raising their voices with regards to Palestine. On the other hand, celebrities are privileged and have platforms, they can do so much more than the regular person, so why should we exempt them from such responsibilities? Just admit Selena is a mess, hon, whether you're a fan or not. 1
Black Sunflower Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 She and all her fans who have made her the most followed person or some **** are such a stain on this world lol she is the epitome of mediocricy 1 1 1 1
superben Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 As much as I dislike Selena, she does not have obligation to speak out about this issue.
Blue Monday Posted December 11, 2023 Author Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, superben said: As much as I dislike Selena, she does not have obligation to speak out about this issue. Then she needs to abdicate her UNICEF ambassadorship; speaking up is the bare minimum she could do 1
XXI. Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 16 hours ago, aesthetic bih said: So what you're saying it because of their celebrity status, they are exempted from caring about global issues and they can be ignorant without consequences? Even regular people are raising their voices with regards to Palestine. On the other hand, celebrities are privileged and have platforms, they can do so much more than the regular person, so why should we exempt them from such responsibilities? Just admit Selena is a mess, hon, whether you're a fan or not. Lol. No, what I'm saying is that it's far more damaging for someone with 429M followers who is uninformed and uneducated to spread misinformation. Selena is a mess... but just because she has millions of followers doesn't mean she's qualified to speak on global issues like what are you on...? Selena probably doesn't even know what genocide means like be for real.
XXI. Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, XXI. said: Lol. No, what I'm saying is that it's far more damaging for someone with 429M followers who is uninformed and uneducated to spread misinformation. Selena is a mess... but just because she has millions of followers doesn't mean she's qualified to speak on global issues like what are you on...? Selena probably doesn't even know what genocide means like be for real. 16 hours ago, aesthetic bih said: So what you're saying it because of their celebrity status, they are exempted from caring about global issues and they can be ignorant without consequences? Even regular people are raising their voices with regards to Palestine. On the other hand, celebrities are privileged and have platforms, they can do so much more than the regular person, so why should we exempt them from such responsibilities? Just admit Selena is a mess, hon, whether you're a fan or not. Also, just to add if you're getting your current events and/or opinions on them from celebrities... that's an even bigger problem. Like why are you looking to Selena Gomez to talk about Palestine? She probably can't even point to it on a map.
Phaunzie Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) On 12/10/2023 at 2:29 PM, BeingRicardo said: Amy Schumer posts was not zionist Sweetheart, oh yes they are. The literal textbook guide to Zionist is to act like to that. Below, are typical Zionist talking points. Like are we supposed to act like Hasbara doesn't exist or the Nakba never existed. I know some Americans never like to explore US foreign policy and where your money is going, but hun ask yourself why Amy is so pressed. However, you will never do that, because you are a fan of Selena 'Kill'em with Kindness' Gomez. Edited December 11, 2023 by Phaunzie
aesthetic bih Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 7 hours ago, XXI. said: Lol. No, what I'm saying is that it's far more damaging for someone with 429M followers who is uninformed and uneducated to spread misinformation. Selena is a mess... but just because she has millions of followers doesn't mean she's qualified to speak on global issues like what are you on...? Selena probably doesn't even know what genocide means like be for real. So speaking up against genocide and telling people not to support the oppressor is your definition of "misinformation" now? Also, Selena has the money, the resources, the TIME to educate herself. I mean, Google is FREE. She has zero excuse to be dumb. You seem OUT OF TOUCH justifying these ignorant celebrities. People especially children are dying and yet you are being more concerned that Selena is going to "end her career" and "lose her riches" when she literally has nothing to lose since she's already rich asf. She's one of the least effected by the wars going on rn, so she has more leeway to speak her mind. SMH. 1
aesthetic bih Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 7 hours ago, XXI. said: Also, just to add if you're getting your current events and/or opinions on them from celebrities... that's an even bigger problem. Like why are you looking to Selena Gomez to talk about Palestine? She probably can't even point to it on a map. That is not a valid excuse to be ignorant. Wtf are you on? You are acting as if we are at stone stage and we do not have access to technology or something. Or are you the one living under a rock? We are not asking for Selena to have a whole TED Talk about what's going on at Gaza, since like you said, she's dumb. It's just that she needs to realign her actions to her values, which even a dumb person can achieve. If she's against genocide and does not support the oppressors, then why does she keep working with Zionists for example? 1
XXI. Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 19 hours ago, aesthetic bih said: That is not a valid excuse to be ignorant. Wtf are you on? You are acting as if we are at stone stage and we do not have access to technology or something. Or are you the one living under a rock? We are not asking for Selena to have a whole TED Talk about what's going on at Gaza, since like you said, she's dumb. It's just that she needs to realign her actions to her values, which even a dumb person can achieve. If she's against genocide and does not support the oppressors, then why does she keep working with Zionists for example? Having a following doesn't correlate with having to or being qualified to speak about global issues is my point. I don't think it's Selena's responsibility. Look to your local leaders to speak to issues not uneducated performative celebrities.
aesthetic bih Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 9 hours ago, XXI. said: Having a following doesn't correlate with having to or being qualified to speak about global issues is my point. I don't think it's Selena's responsibility. Look to your local leaders to speak to issues not uneducated performative celebrities. Like I said, celebrities are not exempted from this moral responsibility. You're the who keeps missing a point by pushing your whack-ass takes. Celebrity, regular, or local leaders - everybody who has concern for humanity should speak up. That was my point that you keep on missing because you can't take your stan googles off
XXI. Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, aesthetic bih said: Like I said, celebrities are not exempted from this moral responsibility. You're the who keeps missing a point by pushing your whack-ass takes. Celebrity, regular, or local leaders - everybody who has concern for humanity should speak up. That was my point that you keep on missing because you can't take your stan googles off I understand what you're saying. I just don't agree with it lol... If your sense of moral responsibility / concern for humanity comes from a very superficial social media post I'm concerned... Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, insert any celebrity posting about politics or global issues isn't going to change the state of a nation or the world or humanity. Would it be nice? Sure. But is it necessary or her obligation? No. What your saying is absolutely baffling to me....this generation whew Edited December 13, 2023 by XXI.
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