celeb news Taylor Swift is TIME Magazine's "Person of the Year"

[Relampago.]

4 minutes ago, If U Seek Amy said:

I think assuming that the West here is trying to "erase" genocide or ignore Palestine is honestly just kind of weird in relation to a magazine's choice. Time does not speak for all of the West lmaooooooo. As important of an issue it is some people online assume that anything and everything in 2023 should be about and has been about Israel/Palestine. It has become almost an obsession. It is as if something doesn't involve speaking about the conflict and instantly means they support genocide and have 0 remorse or care. It only exploded in popularity near the end of the year and even then, for much of the world has had little to no effect. Time and time again people show they often do not care unless things personally impact them. And Taylor has not been escapable for many even if they hate her. It doesn't make it right, but it is what it is. Sure, for some it is a huge deal, or their online involvement heavily involves it. But a person of the year is someone supposed to be representative of the world and cultural impact, not necessarily what event has been the worst that we need to spread activism about. Not everything is about or needs to be about activism. People need to look at it more objectively and not as subjectively. 

 

Whether or not you like Taylor Swift or how much she has impacted your life specifically DOES NOT MATTER. This is about the majority, not YOU. In 2023 let's be real, the biggest cultural impact (not actually serious impact effecting lives) has been Taylor Swift. Just about this whole year people all around a large portion of the world have been obsessed to an insane extent. The issues with her tour and the whole theater of it all. Going all the way to Congress and being a largely spoken about political discourse regarding the entire music industry/live music industry. World leaders and countries celebrating her visiting or touring there just for being there. So much more. You do not have to like her, but you cannot deny this is extremely abnormal cultural impact. That is literally why she won. Not because "the West" wants to erase genocide

…Did you read my post?  I spent my time in this thread praising Taylor and in my very same post you quoted, I said she still deserves it in spite of the Israel-Palestine conflict. We actually agree on every point you made except—

 

Western media has absolutely been skewed in favor of Israel, not Palestine, and has been erasing the atrocities that have occurred there not just this year, but in the past 75 years. That’s not up for debate, nor is this the thread for me to educate you on how Zionists have been working overtime to push media publications to favor Israel’s apartheid state and hide their genocidal actions.

 

Regardless, like I said, Taylor still deserves this award, but it’s also true that Time (just like every other Western publication) would gladly award Taylor with this, rather than continue to raise attention for the bravery of Palestinian journalists and people. Perhaps they may do it next year, but I doubt it.

 

 

[PoisonedIvy]

6 minutes ago, GreenEnvy said:

POTY is a really unique reward though and exceeds the scope of the music industry. She is the first entertainer to get it.

Not even entertainer, she’s the first artist period. So no painter, director, actor, songwriter, dancer, nothing — she is the first artist. 

[PoisonedIvy]

23 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

It's really not that relevant. Most people aren't even aware of what it is. This isn't the 80s or the 90s anymore, how many people are even subscribed to Time magazine? Who's eagerly awaiting for this every year? Until I saw the announcement of who was in the running (two days ago, by Time magazine) I'd forgotten this was even a thing. It's not like stans argue about who will get this coveted award or that it's going to be talked about after... today.

 

Elon Musk got it in 2021. It's just... not that big of a deal.

Stans don’t argue about it because it’s beyond the scope of most of our favs. It’s like stans don’t argue about Nobel Peace Prizes either but that doesn’t mean it’s not a notorious indicator of global impact.. 

Edited December 6, 2023 by PoisonedIvy

[gettsleazy]

People going back and forth on politics in here and on Twitter fail to recognize that Swift dominated the cultural zietgiest this year. I mean, every single week it was something Swift. 

 

The Ukranian mishegoss was an easy way for TIME/The Democrats to give themselves a pat on the back last year. Anyone with a decent sense of reason understands that the U.S. support for Ukraine during their subjugation and their active suppression of Palestine/support for Zionism this year is entirely hypocritical. 

 

It is obvious western media is propagandizing Israels "struggles" in favor of the abject horror Palestine is facing every day, but I don't think using Taylor Swift as the backbone of this argument by some users online is being done in good faith. 

[spiritboy]

MJ and Madonna’s peaks were humongous, they did it in a more difficult environment when there was no internet or social media. And unless you lived those eras (i did), you can’t compare them. MJ especially dominated every continent, even Africa. Taylor has s long way to go (i mean she can still achieve so many great things) but she is without a doubt the biggest artist since those days. People claiming other artists were bigger better show receipts of charting multiple albums in top 10 of charts of many different countries. 

[gettsleazy]

1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said:

 This isn't the 80s or the 90s anymore, how many people are even subscribed to Time magazine? Who's eagerly awaiting for this every year?

What a shite argument  This is arguably one of the more popular mainstream accolades announced each year. 

[GreenEnvy]

3 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

It's really not that relevant. Most people aren't even aware of what it is. This isn't the 80s or the 90s anymore, how many people are even subscribed to Time magazine? Who's eagerly awaiting for this every year? Until I saw the announcement of who was in the running (two days ago, by Time magazine) I'd forgotten this was even a thing. It's not like stans argue about who will get this coveted award or that it's going to be talked about after... today.

 

Elon Musk got it in 2021. It's just... not that big of a deal.

Stans don't argue about it because it's not an award for people with stans, it's most for politician. Time POTY is obviously a much bigger deal than a Grammy or an Oscar. It's closer to a  Peace Nobel Prize than to those.

 

Elon Musk is an extremely impactful person and was widely admired by most of the world in 2021.

Edited December 6, 2023 by GreenEnvy

[If U Seek Amy]

1 minute ago, Relampago. said:

…Did you read my post?  I spent my time in this thread praising Taylor and in my very same post you quoted, I said she still deserves it in spite of the Israel-Palestine conflict. We actually agree on every point you made except—

 

Western media has absolutely been skewed in favor of Israel, not Palestine, and has been erasing the atrocities that have occurred there not just this year, but in the past 75 years. That’s not up for debate, nor is this the thread for me to educate you on how Zionists have been working overtime to push media publications to favor Israel’s apartheid state and hide their genocidal actions.

 

Regardless, like I said, Taylor still deserves this award, but it’s also true that Time (just like every other Western publication) would gladly award Taylor with this, rather than continue to raise attention for the bravery of Palestinian journalists and people. Perhaps they may do it next year, but I doubt it.

 

 

Sorry this wasn't really meant to target you, just the people saying that stuff moreso. 

 

But western media is absolutely skewed toward Israel. But this case is not a good example of that I am sorry. Taylor has had more impact simply this year. Even if her winning isn't as moral and helpful for activism

[olivethetree]

It’s insane how this is the SECOND time she’s POTY. First time was in 2016 for the Silence Breakers cover. 

[Relampago.]

5 minutes ago, If U Seek Amy said:

Sorry this wasn't really meant to target you, just the people saying that stuff moreso. 

 

But western media is absolutely skewed toward Israel. But this case is not a good example of that I am sorry. Taylor has had more impact simply this year. Even if her winning isn't as moral and helpful for activism

Oh okay sorry girl, I thought maybe you felt I was trying to take this away from Taylor, which I definitely don’t. I only want to continue to raise awareness for Palestine and their people  

[Jessie]

People comparing being named Time’s Person of the Year to winning the Nobel Peace Prize please be serious.

Edited December 6, 2023 by Jessie

[NEX]

PHARMACEUTICAL EMERGENCY: Copium in short supply after today's announcement 

[ImpressMeMuch]

 

 

does she think Reputation or just that the public is dumb lol

 

is this why The Man and You Need To Calm Down were so... civilian 

 

Edited December 6, 2023 by ImpressMeMuch

[Where are you now?]

So happy for Ms. Taylor and this monumental achievement! She really did bring so much joy and happiness to people all over the world during such a dark year. 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2023 by Where are you now?

[PoisonedIvy]

13 minutes ago, Jessie said:

People comparing being named Time’s Person of the Year to winning the Nobel Peace Price please be serious.

The people/entities that have been named POTY each year are, without a doubt, some of the most historally recognizable figures — for better or worse. That transcends accolades that apply strictly to the entertainment field. How is that not in the same realm as the NPP, which awards innovators and legacies that quite literally reshape history with their inventions, advocacy, and contributions to society?

[Lord Gaga]

The way she simply is just dominating this year it's not even surprising anymore. I just wake up every day waiting to here what new accomplishment she's achieved.

[More Than A Melody]

23 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

Stans don’t argue about it because it’s beyond the scope of most of our favs. It’s like stans don’t argue about Nobel Peace Prizes either but that doesn’t mean it’s not a notorious indicator of global impact.. 

No one argues about it. Nobody is eagerly awaiting for this. It's not Best Picture at the Oscars. It's not a Nobel Prize. It's just the cover of a magazine. A magazine that saw a decline in subscriptions of over 60% in the last 10 years.

 

No recognition won by Elon Musk can be considered the highlight of a career as big as Taylor's. Give me a break.

[PoisonedIvy]

1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said:

No one argues about it. Nobody is eagerly awaiting for this. It's not Best Picture at the Oscars. It's not a Nobel Prize. It's just the cover of a magazine. A magazine that saw a decline in subscriptions of over 60% in the last 10 years.

 

No recognition won by Elon Musk can be considered the highlight of a career as big as Taylor's. Give me a break.

Idk why you guys are highlighting the negative winners of this title as if it’s supposed to demean it. The Hitlers and the Trumps are just as historically relevant as the MLKs and the Ghandis. For better or worse, they altered the trajectory of human history. Taylor Swift being in that company, both the greats and the evils, is one of the most impressive accomplishments I’ve ever witnessed in my 15 years of being a fan. AOTY at the Grammys is just musicians. Touring is just for entertainers. POTY awards technological, political, and historical figureheads of the utmost relevance.

[OnlyManInTheWorld]

There’s a ME! in TIME

[Ger.vaz]

LEGEND confirmed!!

[Ger]

Absolutely deserved, gigantic year for her, and wow, I've seen part of her interview, she has a lot to say and I'm glad she is speaking up!

[Jessie]

1 minute ago, PoisonedIvy said:

The people/entities that have been named POTY each year are, without a doubt, some of the most historally recognizable figures — for better or worse. That transcends accolades that apply strictly to the entertainment field. How is that not in the same realm as the NPP, which awards innovators and legacies that quite literally reshape history with their inventions, advocacy, and contributions to society?

What has Taylor invented, what has she advocated for outside the bruised ego of her own victimhood (she spent her landmark profile speaking once again on Kim Kardashian as an almost career ending threat) or contributed to society apart from another well marketed uber product for masses to latch onto?
 

She was named Person of the Year for her overwhelming commercial success within the entertainment field and the accolade is essentially a puff piece by Time.
 

An apolitical Disney corp esq popstar who is rambling on in her interview like this 

 

 

about re-releasing her albums, and knows nothing except extreme capitalism and posturing that benefits her own pockets and cultural cache, is leagues away from having the attributes or achievements comparable to winning a Nobel Peace Prize.
 

It requires cultism, hubris and narcissism to even think so.

[Cruel Summer]

If you think that Taylor Swift was named Person of the Year because of her commercial success, you are literally not paying attention.

[PoisonedIvy]

4 minutes ago, Jessie said:

What has Taylor invented, what has she advocated for outside the bruised ego of her own victimhood (she spent her landmark profile speaking once again on Kim Kardashian as an almost career ending threat) or contributed to society apart from another well marketed uber product for masses to latch onto?
 

She was named Person of the Year for her overwhelming commercial success within the entertainment field and the accolade is essentially a puff piece by Time.
 

An apolitical Disney corp esq popstar who is rambling on in her interview like this 

 

 

about re-releasing her albums, and knows nothing except extreme capitalism and posturing that benefits her own pockets and cultural cache, is leagues away from having the attributes or achievements comparable to winning a Nobel Peace Prize.
 

It requires cultism, hubris and narcissism to even think so.

Let me know if you actually want to have this discussion, because based on your inherent biases against her art and her success, I figure anything I say at this point would just be a waste of breath. 
 

But for anyone else that is a neutral party, Taylor Swift has reshaped history by ascending to the pinnacle of her industry amidst the dilution of monoculture, which is an impressive feat. This is no different than a politician becoming their country’s leader, or an entrepreneur becoming the CEO of a multibillion dollar corporation. We can argue about the ethics and the optics all day long but at the end of the day, these figures had a dream, accomplished that dream, and that dream now directly affects the lives of hundreds of millions (if not billions) of people directly. 

[woohoo]

Poor OTH . She’s left them with nothing. When I called her the grinch for taking and taking from them I was joking but this is too far. The meltdowns didn’t let me down. Maybe she can take a break in 2025 and let them breathe and rebuild. It’s simply cruel and not right at this point.