cat1867 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 This is so stupid. Both tour movies are making only around 20% of their gross overseas. Both are extremely domestic heavy. Yes, Taylor's movie is doing much better but Beyonce's movie is still doing ridiculously well for a concert movie. And more importantly, there are no other active artists that could approach either of their grosses. Both women are supporting each other. I hoped it would cause our fanbases to have a temporary truce but I overestimated atrl. 9 1
Jon Snow Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Reading this thread really drained my energy. I don't know how you do this all the time. Go stream folklore to calm yourselves, please. Neither the Hive nor Beyonce care about the numbers as much as you do. 1 1
Jon Snow Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, cat1867 said: This is so stupid. Both tour movies are making only around 20% of their gross overseas. Both are extremely domestic heavy. Yes, Taylor's movie is doing much better but Beyonce's movie is still doing ridiculously well for a concert movie. And more importantly, there are no other active artists that could approach either of their grosses. Both women are supporting each other. I hoped it would cause our fanbases to have a temporary truce but I overestimated atrl. Thank you.
Thor Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 “shE’s BeEn iN tHe IdUsTry fOr 85 YeArs…” Stfu. No one cares. She bombed. Those numbers are disastrous. Should’ve just uploaded it to Youtube. Lmao 3 8 8
Polgg48 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 bey's team who suggested to put film at first place is setting bey up for real, this looks really bad ngl 1
Namie-Knowles Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) "The Hives need to lay off the excuses" Y'all sound so funny. Because this, all of it, doesn't matter lmao! Y'all want the Hives to start licking Taylor and Swiftie feet because of the fact that a Black woman doesn't have equal power in Europe to a blonde White woman who has more theaters on top of that. Woah that's so unexpected! Mind blown. And Hive babe, why are you bending into a pretzel over whether or not this movie didn't smash. Who cares? All this bs going around in the world and you letting some YT gay with acrylics typing on their iPhone that they have only paid half of it off from the back of an Arbys after throwing out the trash to end their shift using broken AAVE is making you this pressed? Stand the up and move on. Bey has nothing to prove and you acting like this is just sad at this point. The movie didn't smash. The movie wasn't the next Barbie. Okay? Who cares, she didn't make this for the numbers. Y'all already know she don't care about anything numerical outside of the checks deposited into her account. Move on and stop arguing with them over every little thing. It's played out at this point imo. Stop the stanwar for the love of God. Arguing over something so trivial. I don't get it. Anyways I am going to go watch it soon. Never been the biggest fan of movies like these but it'll be quite interesting. Edited December 3, 2023 by Namie-Knowles 3 1
BnPac Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, cat1867 said: Both tour movies are making only around 20% of their gross overseas. Both are extremely domestic heavy. Completely agree. To be honest, exactly about 35% for one and 30% for the other. How very stupid, ignorant, challenged and just plain dumb would you be to call out the overseas gross of one of them while stanning the other. It blows my mind. And then double-down on a ridiculously non sensical joke about percentages because all logic escapes you. Atrl can be exhausting. Edited December 3, 2023 by BnPac 1
elincomprendid Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, BnPac said: Maybe follow the conversation. How else do you judge how local and how bad both movies did comparatively to the US? ‘Take a math course. Like everything was said in the post. The monsters’ mention is also just...whatever. Thanks for caring about my education I’d like to inform you I know enough math to know that comparing % is not the best way A movie grossing 1 dollar domestic and 2 dollars overseas is not less local than a movie grossing 100M domestic and 50M overseas even if it’s 200% vs 50% 2 1
Scars Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) Eras Tour - 3,855 theaters Never Say Never - 3,105 theaters This is US - 2,735 theaters Renaissance - 2,539 theaters Best of Both Worlds - 683 theaters Crazy to think that Miley still sits at #2 all these years later with such a limited release compared to the other movies, insane demand. Such an underrated commercial peak. Anyway, back to the topic, I don't think anyone was genuinely excepting Renaissance to pull similar numbers to Taylor. There's still some key markets that didn't have a proper release, which hurts even more non-US numbers. When it's all said and done, this will have a solid gross. Edited December 3, 2023 by Scars 4
Bears01 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, BtDecember said: And you think that makes you superior and on the right side? This is very normal in pop culture forums, if you can’t take it then leave. I stan both Taylor and Beyonce. Literally my top 2 most played artists on Spotify. I keep my pettiness saved for Gaga Stan’s 1
elincomprendid Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, Scars said: Eras Tour - 3,855 theaters Never Say Never - 3,105 theaters This is US - 2,735 theaters Renaissance - 2,539 theaters Best of Both Worlds - 683 theaters Crazy to think that Miley still sits at #2 all these years later with such a limited release compared to the other movies, insane demand. Such an underrated commercial peak. Anyway, back to the topic, I don't think anyone was genuinely excepting Renaissance to pull similar numbers to Taylor. There's still some key markets that didn't have a proper release, which hurts even more non-US numbers. When it's all said and done, this will have a respectable gross. Seriously asking, how did Miley pull so big numbers with such limited offer did it have some expensive price? Also why was it so limited? Did it have something to do with it being Disney promoted?
mrpartyrocker Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: The paper in question : A film after her 54 dates tour that grossed +560m? Yes that paper
mrpartyrocker Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Thor said: “shE’s BeEn iN tHe IdUsTry fOr 85 YeArs…” Stfu. No one cares. She bombed. Those numbers are disastrous. Should’ve just uploaded it to Youtube. Lmao Ok Thor. Whatever makes you sleep better tonight
Lose My Breath Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Thor said: “shE’s BeEn iN tHe IdUsTry fOr 85 YeArs…” Stfu. No one cares. She bombed. Those numbers are disastrous. Should’ve just uploaded it to Youtube. Lmao Why are you in all of the Beyonce threads?
BnPac Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, elincomprendid said: Thanks for caring about my education I don’t. And if someone says that Tay was mocked for doing only 33M overseas when 92M was domestic. What was mocked here is the percentage of overseas compared to domestic growth. Precisely what you Swifties are doing here. Only percentages can accurately reflect that. Edited December 3, 2023 by BnPac
Monster Queen Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Thor said: “shE’s BeEn iN tHe IdUsTry fOr 85 YeArs…” Stfu. No one cares. She bombed. Those numbers are disastrous. Should’ve just uploaded it to Youtube. Lmao Well, we need more time to observe how this performs. Unless it does $5M or something next weekend it's not a bomb
perpetual novice Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 i really hate to be that guy but there's something so sinister feeling about the rabid fanbase of white america's poster girl being so gleeful in attempting to tarnish the legacy of a self made black woman that stays in her lane and beyond that has unnecessarily associated taylor with her events to keep people at bay. there is a reason taylor is able to so easily succeed with less than 10% of the graft Bey has put into her career and it is NOT the quality of the output. 12 2 11
Kasix Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, alexrex said: Most of the audience are grown ups. That's Beyoncé's audience for the most part. Taylor's audience is mostly children and their parents, so of course it sees more attendance. I’m sorry but this is a next level coping if you ever need an example
BnPac Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Monster Queen said: Well, we need more time to observe how this performs. Unless it does $5M or something next weekend it's not a bomb Well you can start preparing the shady threads and bath in glee in advance, in most countries overseas, it’s only shown this weekend. 1
Steve Johnson Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Taylor’s movie will collect more once it is released in China in January, 300 million total incoming About Renaissance film, good US numbers, horrible international numbers. And she’s not gonna do great in China as well.
bjorn Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, perpetual novice said: i really hate to be that guy but there's something so sinister feeling about the rabid fanbase of white america's poster girl being so gleeful in attempting to tarnish the legacy of a self made black woman that stays in her lane and beyond that has unnecessarily associated taylor with her events to keep people at bay. there is a reason taylor is able to so easily succeed with less than 10% of the graft Bey has put into her career and it is NOT the quality of the output.
elincomprendid Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, BnPac said: I don’t. And if someone says that Tay was mocked for doing only 33M overseas when 92M was domestic. What was mocked here is the percentage of overseas compared to domestic growth. Precisely what you Swifties are doing here. Only percentages can accurately reflect that. The thing is swifties didn’t do anything it was literally a news outlet, maybe it’s time for open your eyes and leave the bubble you all live in and realize people using real facts and not vibes like you all do is the majority and not swifties hating over your fav 5
Steve Johnson Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 47 minutes ago, TaggedGalaxy said: "On this weekend" 45 minutes ago, GreenEnvy said: It's also "opening" I'm sure there are many movies who did better in their second and third weeks during this week. A great example of Remy ma record
Monster Queen Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, perpetual novice said: i really hate to be that guy but there's something so sinister feeling about the rabid fanbase of white america's poster girl being so gleeful in attempting to tarnish the legacy of a self made black woman that stays in her lane and has unnecessarily associated taylor with her events to keep people at bay. there is a reason taylor is able to so easily succeed with less than 10% of the graft Bey has put into her career and it is NOT the quality of the output. How is judging the commercial performance of the movie "tarnish the legacy"? No one here is judging Beyonce's music quality or her talent. It is the Beyhives here keep dragging Taylor's music quality and spreading misinformation about her even though this thread has nothing to do with her 14 minutes ago, perpetual novice said: There is a reason taylor is able to so easily succeed with less than 10% of the graft Bey has put into her career and it is NOT the quality of the output. Sorry, but Taylor's success is on her own and has no relationship with how other people have put into their careers. But you made some points here, cause the budget for one Bey's project is probably 10x times higher considering one only needs 2-3 co-writers and producers and the other needs 78 Edited December 3, 2023 by Monster Queen 2 2
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