base talk Renaissance WT Movie struggles badly overseas, opens with 5.5M (official)

[The7thStranger]

4 minutes ago, elincomprendid said:

Well true Taylor has no peers alive other than Madonna

This is why nobody takes Swifties seriously. Madonna is not her peer. Madonna's time and Taylor's time are two entirely different animals, and neither should be compared. The rules of the game are entirely different, and the circumstances surrounding their successes are not the same.

 

OT: Damn, I wish I had a movie with my name on it that pulled in 64M. There is literally no drag here.

[WildHeart]

11 minutes ago, Devin said:

Swifties downvoting

 

26 minutes ago, Devin said:

bc we can easily bring up Travis problematic past

 

24 minutes ago, Devin said:

lets talk about how Taylor got a bunch of lil Pams and Suzies BEGGING they raise to buy 3+ tix

 

3 minutes ago, Devin said:

stay on topic. 

Yes, please

[Monster Queen]

1 hour ago, King_Lonnie said:

No kid is running to see Beyoncé, lol you thought you did something.. 

 

1 hour ago, Alaska. said:

Right. Let's not forget kids bring their parents and that obviously increases the number of tickets sold

27 minutes ago, period sis said:

Don't be dense. They purposefully cropped out the one thing negative in that article, coming from a fanbase that did nothing but hate Beyonce all year

 

I felt like that article had things that shouldn't have been left out since it explains A LOT:

 

"More than 70 percent of those buying tickets to see Renaissance in the U.S. were female, while 52 percent were Black moviegoers in a win for diverse programming. Nearly 70 percent of all ticket buyers were between ages 18 and 34, including 43 percent between ages 25 and 34." 

"No one expected Renaissance to do the same sort of business, considering her audience is older."

 

So essentially Beyonce was competing against films geared towards children

 

 

34 minutes ago, Devin said:

lets talk about how Taylor got a bunch of lil Pams and Suzies BEGGING they raise to buy 3+ tix

 

Bey audience is primarily adults 

 

The Eras tour film demography:

With 63% between 18-34 and the 25-34 year old being the biggest demo at 32%

The Rene film demography:

Nearly 70 percent of all ticket buyers were between ages 18 and 34, including 43 percent between ages 25 and 34

 

What are the obvious differences between these two I sincerely want to ask? Is "Swiftie are all kids" a new embarrassing brainwashing lie as same as  "No one knows Taylor outside the US"  and  "Swiftie are all white?"

 

Edited December 3, 2023 by Monster Queen

[BnPac]

The number is by no mean tragic. It opened in selected theatres and not in all Europe. 
 

It was predicted to struggle to do 15M in the US at first so I don’t see how close to 7M is so bad. It could be better but that’s an ok result. 
 

Also the Hives need to lay out some of the excuses. If some people think it flopped, it’s ok, it doesn’t take anyway away from how much we enjoyed it. 

[Cherish]

Now if Bey did an Eras tour, I'd die happy. I think that's one advantage for Taylor too. She did songs from every era (the big popular ones) - that's why it was easy to take people to Taylor's concert. This focused exclusively on RENAISSANCE.  Yeah, she did songs on the tour not from RENAISSANCE but it was mainly focused on RENAISSANCE. The only thing she did that was huge was Crazy In Love, Get Me Bodied & Naughty Girl. 

[Cherish]

2 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

I agree, the price was a bit much for a movie. I don’t even pay that for 3D. If you wanted to buy for yourself and kids you are looking at over $150. 

Yep.  Never mind the convenience fees and most people go through Fandango too. 

[elincomprendid]

1 minute ago, The7thStranger said:

This is why nobody takes Swifties seriously. Madonna is not her peer. Madonna's time and Taylor's time are two entirely different animals, and neither should be compared. The rules of the game are entirely different, and the circumstances surrounding their successes are not the same.

 

OT: Damn, I wish I had a movie with my name on it that pulled in 64M. There is literally no drag here.

Yeah times changes but both are the only female artists that managed to have like 10 all successful eras spanning through time and genres in their respective times

 

Both are touring legends, have hits left and right and the reception from the public as all time legends. 
 

OT: She didn’t do 64M she did quite less, 10 times less in fact cause it’s 6.4M 

[TaggedGalaxy]

Remember when Taylor was local and Bey was global?

 

[iamanearthling]

Taylor was always going to clear Beyonce. 
no one thought otherwise anyways. 

[Devin]

59 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

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3 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

Yes, please

u went off topic on the very first page 

[elincomprendid]

1 minute ago, TaggedGalaxy said:

Remember when Taylor was local and Bey was global?

 

When people said that*
 

cause the reality was never that 

[RobynYoBank]

1 hour ago, Shimenawa said:

I thought MJ had one of the biggest behind Taylor?

 

The MJ film was a documentary, not a concert film. He died before the tour, so there was no concert.

[LoveInStereo]

She’s washed, it’s only downhill from here. Hive’s got a lot of nerve calling swifties chronically online when your fav has no impact IRL

[Mr.X]

The movie was amazing and I wanted to go see it again, but I wont cos the price is too high, so I will wait till the streaming/online release (or leak lol)...

 

Also, I would have LOVED to get the bucket and cup but DAMN it was 24€ in my local cinema and essentially almost 3x the average popcorn combo, so we didn't get it either.

[The7thStranger]

4 minutes ago, elincomprendid said:

Yeah times changes but both are the only female artists that managed to have like 10 all successful eras spanning through time and genres in their respective times

 

Both are touring legends, have hits left and right and the reception from the public as all time legends. 
 

OT: She didn’t do 64M she did quite less, 10 times less in fact cause it’s 6.4M 

My point still stands. Madonna is almost in her 65 years old and came up in an completely different time. Taylor is not her peer.

 

And I'll still take 6.4M for overseas and nearly 30 in total. That's not a failure.

Edited December 3, 2023 by The7thStranger

[Cherish]

Just now, Mr.X said:

The movie was amazing and I wanted to go see it again, but I wont cos the price is too high, so I will wait till the streaming/online release (or leak lol)...

 

Also, I would have LOVED to get the bucket and cup but DAMN it was 24€ in my local cinema and essentially almost 3x the average popcorn combo, so we didn't get it either.

Regal got an exclusive bar cup (disco ball with a white cowboy hat that says R on it) and it's $25 for the cup without a drink You have to get a drink with it though making it almost double and I literally want it so bad

[Monster Queen]

It has nothing to do with Taylor's film, we all know the Eras film will clear this.

The real problem is this number is not good at the very least. Let's assume it has $25M budget, it probably couldn't even recover them in the long term

Edited December 3, 2023 by Monster Queen

[hausofdave]

6.4M across 94 markets is still bad no matter how you look at it, how did it not even reach double digits considering it's a film celebrating the tour of the century?

 

[Yuanyu]

21 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

It has nothing to do with me. Taylor is Americas Sweetheart, her tour + film were HEAVILY promoted as a family must-sees, you had countless of interviews with family.mothers and fathers discussing how their kids want to see her and how hard it is to adhere to that.. 

 

Beyonce is perceived as inhumane/"too perfexct"/arrogant/disclosed/unapproachable/premium by the GP.

Its a completely different playing field.

 

Bey is standing up for Black culture, Renaissance is as gay as it gets, while Taylor is doing everything to appeal to everyone.

 

Taylor has literally no point of view in her music while Bey is so unapologetically on her music

 

They are so so different but you guys want to see Bey fail so hard just because you know shes also very successful in her own right. Its sick behavior

For this reason you called Taylor " H&M" and Beyoncé "Balmain" 

It was a terrible comparation, nowadays no one can compete with Taylor, it doesn't matter if is Beyonce, Adele, Drake or the weekend 

[BnPac]

1 hour ago, JorgeM said:

Oh did predictors really think that she would open with 20 M overseas? They let Bey PR game to cheat them. 6 M was way more possible for anyone who lives in real world and not in “vibes”.

 

Although only #4 in UK and #6 in Australia is kinda dissapointed 

The only people who could have predicted 20M overseas are Swifties or people trying to set her up to post ridiculous comments like this after. 

 

The movie was predicted to barely reach 15M in the US, how on earth would it have done more ww? You guys like to go on about how your fave is the Queen of the world but even her didn’t pull better numbers ww than in the US. Like think!!!

 

1 hour ago, Hurem said:

Still the best tour of the year  

And the best tour film too. She did that!!
 

[Cherish]

Just now, hausofdave said:

6.4M across 94 markets is still bad no matter how you look at it, how did it not even reach double digits considering it's a film celebrating the tour of the century?

 

Because it didn't open everywhere. That's why. 

[WildHeart]

8 minutes ago, period sis said:

Interesting that you conveniently clipped out the number of diverse audience members from my post. Wouldn't say I'm surprised by that!!!!! 

Taylor outperformed among every demographics but black people and the gap was big.

 

When you include international numbers, the gap gets only bigger and bigger considering how Beyonce performed comparatively 

[Feanor]

People are doing too much. I doubt anyone other than Taylor would be able to generate these same box office numbers.

 

 

[Taylena]

12 minutes ago, Monster Queen said:

 

The Eras tour film demography:

With 63% between 18-34 and the 25-34 year old being the biggest demo at 32%

The Rene film demography:

Nearly 70 percent of all ticket buyers were between ages 18 and 34, including 43 percent between ages 25 and 34

 

What are the obvious differences between these two I sincerely want to ask? Is "Swiftie are all kids" a new embarrassinh brainwashing lie as same as  "No one knows Taylor outside the US"  and  "Swiftie are all white?"

 

Not 7% being the difference between "Taylor's audience being all kids" and Beyoncé's old audience. 

[BnPac]

3 minutes ago, Monster Queen said:

It has nothing to do with Taylor's film, we all know the Eras film will clear this.

The real problem is this number is not good at the very least. Let's assume it has $25M budget, it probably couldn't even recover them.

Hmmm ... how so? It did 21M in the US and 6.4M elsewhere so far. That’s 27.4M in its first weekend. That’s more or less what was always estimated. 
 

And why would it take her 25M to make this?  She filmed the tour, that’s it. Essentially it’s a tour DVD shown in cinemas.