celeb news Dua to be killed by the IDF

[RihRihGirrrl]

9 hours ago, Kassi said:

Diplomacy also doesn’t work when one of the parties is ideologically committed to the annihilation of the other.

 

But you gotta start somewhere.

The other party is literally committed to and currently carrying out plans to annihilate, flatten, and ethnicly cleanse the other. This is what's actually happening in front of the world to see.

[Soda Pop Queen]

They're ******* unhinged. I really hope Dua (and the targeted others) beefs up on security because I wouldn't put nothing past them. 

Edited December 3, 2023 by Soda Pop Queen

[Funnyfatty]

What is so funny about it that everyone in this stupid thread is trolling? This is disgusting and i hope Dua sues them. 

[brianc33710]

That's pretty sick. I'm trying not to go beyond this.

[i spit on haters]

They're lust for blood and death is deeply disconcerting but not surprising at this point.

 

But they 'just want peace' they said. And 'Hamas is the true enemy' they said. A bunch of ******* terrorists.

[ahauntingnearu]

Wtf

[Dimitri]

It's just 2 artists not IDF 

[GreenEnvy]

15 hours ago, Kassi said:

Under the terms that the Jewish state receive a smaller and less economically viable portion of the land:

• Less fertile
• Lacking population centers 
• Reduced access to water sources and shipping ports
• Territorial discontinuity
• Resource strain from absorbing an influx of Holocaust victims

They got the the part of the territory that was 55% Jewish while the rest was more than 90% non Jewish. The partition plan was a scam, you don't give the majority of the land to less than 20% of the population.

[FOCK]

16 hours ago, Kassi said:

No. In fact, the international community diplomatically convened in 1948 to legally sanction the first and only Palestinian state. Israel accepted. 

According to this logic, India also “didn’t exist” prior to 1947. 

Along with 100’s of other nations.

 

Sorry, y’all don’t exist until the yt man says so. 
 

Edited December 3, 2023 by FOCK

[Cloudy]

What can you expect from that terrorist, racist and genocidal state and most of its bloodthristy population

[Kassi]

3 hours ago, GreenEnvy said:

They got the the part of the territory that was 55% Jewish while the rest was more than 90% non Jewish. The partition plan was a scam, you don't give the majority of the land to less than 20% of the population.

And the new Jewish state included the inhospitable Negev Desert which covers about 60% of Israel's land area. To this day it contains just about 5% of Israel’s population, with the vast majority concentrated in the northern half of Israel.

 

Do you not see the problem with your mentality and the fixation on minute details? You, like the Arab League then, are missing the forest for the trees. Everyone was compromising. That was the point of a peaceful resolution to militia violence. It was not a “scam”. It was, quite literally, a two-state solution. 

[Zeferino]

disgusting 

[GreenEnvy]

28 minutes ago, Kassi said:

And the new Jewish state included the inhospitable Negev Desert which covers about 60% of Israel's land area. To this day it contains just about 5% of Israel’s population, with the vast majority concentrated in the northern half of Israel.

 

Do you not see the problem with your mentality and the fixation on minute details? You, like the Arab League then, are missing the forest for the trees. Everyone was compromising. That was the point of a peaceful resolution to militia violence. It was not a “scam”. It was, quite literally, a two-state solution. 

The Negev Desert would give the state access to the Red Sea. The plan pretty much gave the Jewish side everything they could realistically keep given the demographics of the land. There is no "compromise" just because a few delusional zionist leader though they could have the whole mandate territory.

 

Anyway, there's a reason the US had to pretty much threaten countries to pass the UN vote. Even they realized how unfair it was.

 

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Zionists launched an intense White House lobby to have the UNSCOP plan endorsed, and the effects were not trivial.[88] The Democratic Party, a large part of whose contributions came from Jews,[89] informed Truman that failure to live up to promises to support the Jews in Palestine would constitute a danger to the party. The defection of Jewish votes in congressional elections in 1946 had contributed to electoral losses. Truman was, according to Roger Cohen, embittered by feelings of being a hostage to the lobby and its 'unwarranted interference', which he blamed for the contemporary impasse. When a formal American declaration in favour of partition was given on 11 October, a public relations authority declared to the Zionist Emergency Council in a closed meeting: 'under no circumstances should any of us believe or think we had won because of the devotion of the American Government to our cause. We had won because of the sheer pressure of political logistics that was applied by the Jewish leadership in the United States'. State Department advice critical of the controversial UNSCOP recommendation to give the overwhelmingly Arab town of Jaffa, and the Negev, to the Jews was overturned by an urgent and secret late meeting organized for Chaim Weizman with Truman, which immediately countermanded the recommendation. The United States initially refrained from pressuring smaller states to vote either way, but Robert A. Lovett reported that America's U.N. delegation's case suffered impediments from high pressure by Jewish groups, and that indications existed that bribes and threats were being used, even of American sanctions against Liberia and Nicaragua.[90] When the UNSCOP plan failed to achieve the necessary majority on 25 November, the lobby 'moved into high gear' and induced the President to overrule the State Department, and let wavering governments know that the U.S. strongly desired partition.[91]

 

Proponents of the Plan reportedly put pressure on nations to vote yes to the Partition Plan. A telegram signed by 26 US Senators with influence on foreign aid bills was sent to wavering countries, seeking their support for the partition plan.[92] The US Senate was considering a large aid package at the time, including 60 million dollars to China.[93][94] Many nations reported pressure directed specifically at them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

Edited December 3, 2023 by GreenEnvy

[Kassi]

24 minutes ago, GreenEnvy said:

The Negev Desert would give the state access to the Red Sea. The plan pretty much gave the Jewish side everything they could realistically keep given the demographics of the land. There is no "compromise" just because a few delusional zionist leader though they could have the whole mandate territory.

 

Anyway, there's a reason the US had to pretty much threaten countries to pass the UN vote. Even they realized how unfair it was.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

If there’s no compromise, then what should have happened with the British Mandate?

 

Keeping in mind that there was non-stop militia violence. What would have been a reasonable outcome?

[Relampago.]

While I think it’s typically irresponsible and dangerous to write off an entire region or group of people, there is a deep seated evil in Israel. The callousness and cruelty seen from the IDF and many Israeli people is… shocking.

 

Yes, it’s normally understandable (not justifiable) that people in a nation have intense reactions to being attacked, especially with the long history of propaganda shoved down people’s throats by their government— just as we saw with 9/11 in the US.

 

But we live in an age where information is readily available to populations like Israel’s and yet the vast majority are not just pro-Israel, but are literally anti-Palestinian. Not simply anti-Palestine— anti-Palestinian. That is terrifying from a nation that has access to internet, education, and resources outside of just whatever they can carry on their backs before their streets are flattened by a barrage of bombs.

 

I don’t know. It’s very scary to see songs like Try That In A Small Town go #1 in the US, but that is child’s play compared to what this song is and the amount of support it gets compared to TTIAST. 

[GreenEnvy]

1 hour ago, Kassi said:

If there’s no compromise, then what should have happened with the British Mandate?

 

Keeping in mind that there was non-stop militia violence. What would have been a reasonable outcome?

One single state, equal rights. Maybe even a confessional system like Lebanon.

[Kassi]

1 hour ago, GreenEnvy said:

One single state, equal rights. Maybe even a confessional system like Lebanon.

That’s not keeping in mind non-stop militia violence though.  The British Mandate was an attempt at that. It failed so miserably that one of the only superpowers at the time threw their hands up and handed the issue over to the UN. 

There were also talks between Ben-Gurion and Musa Alami for an autonomous Jewish “state” around Tel-Aviv as part of a larger Arab Federation (similar to Native American reservations in the US). That also fell apart because, at the end of the day, it was always the demography (read: anti-semitism) that arguably drove the Arabs’ anxiety and angst.

 

The Jewish population doubled in the first half of the 1930s, and the Arabs were perceptive enough to realize that if things continued this way, the Jews would naturally become the majority in Palestine since they had nowhere else to go. 
 

It doesn’t help your position to totally gloss over why, after nearly 20 years of negotiations, there was even a two state solution on the table… but to summarize, according to the Peel Commission interviews:

 

 

 

And the conclusion from the report:

 

 

The existing circumstances are summarized as follows.

An irrepressible conflict has arisen between two national communities within the narrow bounds of one small country. There is no common ground between them. Their national aspirations are incompatible. The Arabs desire to revive the traditions of the Arab golden age. The Jews desire to show what they can achieve when restored to the land in which the Jewish nation was born. Neither of the two national ideals permits of combination in the service of a single State.

[…]

The problem cannot be solved by giving either the Arabs or the Jews all they want. The answer to the question which of them in the end will govern Palestine must be Neither. No fair-minded statesman can think it right either that 400,000 Jews, whose entry into Palestine has been facilitated by he British Government and approved by the League of Nations, should be handed over to Arab rule, or that, if the Jews should become a majority, a million Arabs should be handed over to their rule. But while neither race can fairly rule all Palestine, each race might justly rule part of it.
 

https://unispal.un.org/pdfs/Cmd5479.pdf

 

Two states was always the way. 

[Communion]

@Kassi

 

[Communion]

8 hours ago, Dimitri said:

It's just 2 artists not IDF 

Tea, the IDF is far busier calling for the killing of the few Israeli Arabs who live in Israel and have made it to the Israeli parliament to focus on pop stars!

 

 

[Kassi]

18 minutes ago, Communion said:

@Kassi

 

That ain’t got nothing to do with me or the truth. 

[BletaRexher]

But ATRL told me that Palestinians are dangerous and Isreal is just trying to defend itself

[Karla Cabello]

On 12/2/2023 at 5:34 PM, Kassi said:

Under the terms that the Jewish state receive a smaller and less economically viable portion of the land:

• Less fertile
• Lacking population centers 
• Reduced access to water sources and shipping ports
• Territorial discontinuity
• Resource strain from absorbing an influx of Holocaust victims

you just made that up 

[rac7d]

5 hours ago, BletaRexher said:

But ATRL told me that Palestinians are dangerous and Isreal is just trying to defend itself

You get your facts on world news from ATRL

[Phaunzie]

Gal Gadon't's  IDF really can't help themselves, can they? However what else can we expect from a nation that indoctrinates its citizens into Zionism.  

 

I love the POWER Dua, Bella and Mia have over these ethnic cleansers. Hopefully they would see the light.

Edited December 4, 2023 by Phaunzie