celeb news SZA reveals feeling devastated after Rihanna stole ‘Consideration’ for her album

[ImsoLOUD]

6 hours ago, Frogger17 said:

The main why anyone likes ANY song ever is mainly due to the song being good (the melody being catchy, production being infectious, etc.), and Rihanna has little to no say in the song being catchy, since she doesn't write. She has the same voice on those two Black Panther songs and American Oxygen as she has on her #1s, so why didn't anyone everyone buy and stream them if it's her voice that's making people stan? The fact that the Navy thinks that girl sells off of her voice and not the catchy hooks is the height of delusion and ya'll embarrass yourself every time you bring up her "unique tone" and "iconic" voice. 

You wouldn’t be able to tell me or anyone else for that matter what they enjoy about a song  the fact that you are arrogant enough to think that you can is actually a problem in it of itself  no one should be embarrassed besides the ppl like yourself that don’t even Stan SZA or Rihanna yet still insert themselves into any and all conversations when you have new material to stream  

 

if melodies and “perfect songwriting!!1!” were all that it took to get a hit song then why couldn’t Taylor get a #1 song on the Hot 100 for the first seven years of her career? And why did Calvin Harris ask Rihanna to sing TIWYCF when he already had the “music industry” laying in bed right beside him? 

Edited December 2, 2023 by ImsoLOUD

[rihannafan]

4 hours ago, Frogger17 said:

The main why anyone likes ANY song ever is mainly due to the song being good (the melody being catchy, production being infectious, etc.), and Rihanna has little to no say in the song being catchy, since she doesn't write. She has the same voice on those two Black Panther songs and American Oxygen as she has on her #1s, so why didn't anyone everyone buy and stream them if it's her voice that's making people stan? The fact that the Navy thinks that girl sells off of her voice and not the catchy hooks is the height of delusion and ya'll embarrass yourself every time you bring up her "unique tone" and "iconic" voice. 

Ofc you would want to pretend vocals are irrelevant

[rhaenyra]

I legit did not know who SZA was before Consideration so she should be on her knees thanking Rihanna for this boost in her career 

[YourHonesty]

19 hours ago, Miss Show Business said:

Not every performer needs to be a writer, too. In fact, some good singers, are not good at writing songs. And we need to go back to a point where we can acknowledge that that's okay, instead of forcing artists to do things that don't emphasize their strengths.

 

I think this is what's wrong with a lot of brand new artists these days that struggle to break through. They're all expected to write their material and most of it is just garbage.

True but which of these categories does Rihanna fit again? 

[istan4badgalriri]

5 hours ago, Frogger17 said:

The main why anyone likes ANY song ever is mainly due to the song being good (the melody being catchy, production being infectious, etc.), and Rihanna has little to no say in the song being catchy, since she doesn't write. She has the same voice on those two Black Panther songs and American Oxygen as she has on her #1s, so why didn't anyone everyone buy and stream them if it's her voice that's making people stan? The fact that the Navy thinks that girl sells off of her voice and not the catchy hooks is the height of delusion and ya'll embarrass yourself every time you bring up her "unique tone" and "iconic" voice. 

My god, the delusion. There's a reason why Calvin Harris flew from Europe to America to get Rihanna to sing on a song originally sung by Taylor, and why Tricky Stewart said he knew Rihanna was the right artist for "Umbrella" when he heard her demo and the way she sang the "ella ella" part. To deny the fact that her tone and her delivery turn most songs she records into gold is plain delusional. Using your logic "Umbrella", "We Found Love" and "Work" would have also become huge hits had they been sung Mary J Blige, Leona Lewis & PartyNextDoor (respectively). Surely you don't believe that.

[istan4badgalriri]

3 hours ago, Bad_vocal_technique said:

Everyone saying she shouldt have shown the song but there are many holes in the theory, like may be she didn’t know it could be taken away from her which makes it even more cruel. 

 

[Movimento Perpétuo]

 

[KOMH]

A thief

[KOMH]

21 hours ago, makeme said:

Weeks spent at #1 on the billboard 200

SOS - 10 weeks

Rihanna's entire career - 3 weeks 

 

Does this clarify it for you? 

Oh that's not  

[rihannafan]

The crazy thing is this is a song SZA does not have the ability to sing

 

 

 

 

[Frogger17]

3 hours ago, istan4badgalriri said:

My god, the delusion. There's a reason why Calvin Harris flew from Europe to America to get Rihanna to sing on a song originally sung by Taylor, and why Tricky Stewart said he knew Rihanna was the right artist for "Umbrella" when he heard her demo and the way she sang the "ella ella" part. To deny the fact that her tone and her delivery turn most songs she records into gold is plain delusional. Using your logic "Umbrella", "We Found Love" and "Work" would have also become huge hits had they been sung Mary J Blige, Leona Lewis & PartyNextDoor (respectively). Surely you don't believe that.

Wait, how on earth would you know that the songs wouldn’t have been hits? That’s an alternate timeline and you’re not psychic. By YOUR logic, no new artist would ever have a hit, since they don’t have a recognizable tone or whatever. Girl, go sit.

[Frogger17]

4 hours ago, rihannafan said:

Ofc you would want to pretend vocals are irrelevant

No one said they’re irrelevant. Don’t put words in my mouth. Whitney and countless others have sold based on voice combined with HITS. Without the catchy songs, even Whitney’s career would be dead. And Rihanna’s vocals aren’t stellar enough to say she’s selling based off of them. People are there for the hits. It’s not that hard.

[rihannafan]

1 minute ago, Frogger17 said:

No one said they’re irrelevant. Don’t put words in my mouth. Whitney and countless others have sold based on voice combined with HITS. Without the catchy songs, even Whitney’s career would be dead. And Rihanna’s vocals aren’t stellar enough to say she’s selling based off of them. People are there for the hits. It’s not that hard.

Rihanna has worked with tons of different producers and writer and has gotten timeless songs with all of them. She is the common factor. She has THE voice and the most versatility out of any artist, maybe ever. Taylor cannot sing This is what you came for (studio or live) and SZA cannot sing consideration (see above). Rihanna's talent is the most tangible of all talents because to be able to sing so many genres so well is just a true gift. But again, not surprised some stans want to pretend vocals are not relevant. 

[lonnie]

4 hours ago, istan4badgalriri said:

 

This is so

 

And those weird swifties still going at it in here like they care about SZA and won't be attacking her the way they do other Black female artists soon. Who are they trying to kid

[ImsoLOUD]

1 hour ago, Frogger17 said:

No one said they’re irrelevant. Don’t put words in my mouth. Whitney and countless others have sold based on voice combined with HITS. Without the catchy songs, even Whitney’s career would be dead. And Rihanna’s vocals aren’t stellar enough to say she’s selling based off of them. People are there for the hits. It’s not that hard.

Once again, who are you to decide that? 
 

One could also argue that without your favs daddy paying for her songwriting lessons before she even hit puberty her career could also be dead. And even then, not everyone thinks her writing is stellar enough to recieve the success she has accumulated but that hasn’t stopped anything either. 

[Relampago.]

I love reading the fake fumes in here just cause people are upset Rih is substantially bigger than their faves with far more classics to boot

 

SZA still crying about this is so lol considering that song put her on the map. She was dumb to play it there and she’s salty about it, that’s kinda the end of that. 

[Relampago.]

1 hour ago, lonnie said:

This is so

 

And those weird swifties still going at it in here like they care about SZA and won't be attacking her the way they do other Black female artists soon. Who are they trying to kid

I remember the SOS vs Midnights war that happened here last year, they are so transparent and fraudulent  

[lonnie]

5 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

I remember the SOS vs Midnights war that happened here last year, they are so transparent and fraudulent  

And they'll be back at it as the Grammys approach

[Junipero]

7 hours ago, YourHonesty said:

True but which of these categories does Rihanna fit again? 

Look at The Tin Pan Alley era at music and Elvis category. Back in the 1950's when songs were a singles business and many times songs were just shopped around and sometimes reffered to as "Bubblegum music".

Nothing different.

Nowadays they are just "writing camps" but sometimes used to be reffered to as "Brill Building music". Fascinating really.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brill_Building_(genre)

 

 

Edited December 3, 2023 by Junipero

[IBeMe]

I kinda get what she means. If you feel stolen from or whatever its hard to feel motivated again tbh. Consideration is a great song and at least it went to Rih who did a good job with it

[Frogger17]

8 hours ago, ImsoLOUD said:

You wouldn’t be able to tell me or anyone else for that matter what they enjoy about a song  

Fine, you’re right, people don’t enjoy good melodies and catchy songs then. They just listen to songs with boring melodies, bad hooks, bad production and only focus on the artist’s unique tone and charisma. Still doesn’t explain why ALL of Rih’s songs haven’t done well, since they ALL have her unique tone. 

[Anti-Hero]

8 minutes ago, Frogger17 said:

Fine, you’re right, people don’t enjoy good melodies and catchy songs then. They just listen to songs with boring melodies, bad hooks, bad production and only focus on the artist’s unique tone and charisma. Still doesn’t explain why ALL of Rih’s songs haven’t done well, since they ALL have her unique tone. 

I think its a mix of both

[Frogger17]

1 hour ago, ImsoLOUD said:

Once again, who are you to decide that? 
 

One could also argue that without your favs daddy paying for her songwriting lessons before she even hit puberty her career could also be dead. And even then, not everyone thinks her writing is stellar enough to recieve the success she has accumulated but that hasn’t stopped anything either. 

The GP isn’t buying Rihanna’s music because of her tone and voice. Give it up. The Navy should be content that their fave accomplished everything she has, considering the amount of talent doesn’t match the amount of success. Every big industry titan—Bey, Taylor, etc—has a talent they excel at. Everyone except Ms. Robbin’ Fenty. Must suck to be the Navy, having to subsist off charisma, tones, and fashions from their fave.

 

And I don’t listen to criticism about Taylor’s songwriting skills from people that read at a fourth grade level. I listen to what her songwriting peers have to say.

[Frogger17]

1 minute ago, Anti-Hero said:

I think its a mix of both

Which was my point. But Rih doesn’t have both.

[ImsoLOUD]

47 minutes ago, Frogger17 said:

The GP isn’t buying Rihanna’s music because of her tone and voice. Give it up. The Navy should be content that their fave accomplished everything she has, considering the amount of talent doesn’t match the amount of success. Every big industry titan—Bey, Taylor, etc—has a talent they excel at. Everyone except Ms. Robbin’ Fenty. Must suck to be the Navy, having to subsist off charisma, tones, and fashions from their fave.

 

And I don’t listen to criticism about Taylor’s songwriting skills from people that read at a fourth grade level. I listen to what her songwriting peers have to say.

Imagine claiming that other people are at a fourth grade reading level yet you can’t even spell Robyn* correctly  who gives af what you think when your favs ex left her on the couch to chase Rihanna down and get her iconic voice on another song?
 

You should be happy considering that your fav benefits from several privileges unknown to women like Rihanna or Beyoncé, a career practically purchased by her Father,  and an “I lost my masters!!1!” sob story that distracts everyone from her Doctor Seuss style songwriting among other things… yet you are still pressed about a retired Oscar nominated billionaire/immigrant from Barbados    that really has to suck 

Edited December 3, 2023 by ImsoLOUD