istan4badgalriri Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Jjang said: She can be nuanced enough to express that she understands the business aspect of it while also being irked by it in hindsight and that's exactly what she says in that interview. She doesn't have to be one thing or another. Just like Rihanna isn't just grateful that SZA gave her the most artistic song on her final and most acclaimed album. The delusion 💀 1 1
paulie Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 i'm laughing *goes to a writing camp* *shows a song* *song is used* sza: she stole my song and the ones dragging rihanna in this post will be the first ones to stream her next single 1 4 6
AvadaKedavra Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, State of Grace. said: I think she has the right to feel some typa way about it, but sis you also shouldn't have played it at Rih's writing camp if you wanted to keep it to yourself. Consideration definitely helped put SZA on the map and introduced her to many new listeners globally (me included), but SOS is now bigger than ANTI and arguably the biggest album by a black female artist since...IASF? Its probably passing that one as well. She should be proud. In the United States darling cause Worlwide those ANTI Hits eat her alive. I think Kill bill is one of the best songs of the last times and im shady to SZA but i love All Stars and Kiss me More and the song with maroon five tbh Dont mean to be rude cause youre one of my fave swifties here But You All of you there in The States are somewhat delusional and believe that just because something is big there, it's big worldwide, and that's not always the case. Many singers who have massive success there only have it there. In other countries, they are a non-factor. Just like when Taylor started and was more local to the United States in her first 3 eras Latinos, Europeans,Africans and people from the Middle East and Asia really know when a hit is global. Generally, we listen to the same hits, and when they overlap with each other, they truly are global SOS bigger than ANTI? i dont think so SOS ANTI Edited December 2, 2023 by AvadaKedavra 3 2
Jjang Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said: The delusion 💀 nnn let me guess, love on the brain? higher?
Le Grande Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Oh not again Let's play a board game like Scattergories And I will make us nachos, nachos
State of Grace. Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, AvadaKedavra said: In the United States darling cause Worlwide those ANTI Hits eat her alive. I think Kill bill is one of the best songs of the last times and im shady to SZA but i love All Stars and Kiss me More and the song with maroon five tbh Dont mean to be rude cause youre one of my fave swifties here But You All of you there in The States are somewhat delusional and believe that just because something is big there, it's big worldwide, and that's not always the case. Many singers who have massive success there only have it there. In other countries, they are a non-factor. Just like when Taylor started and was more local to the United States in her first 3 eras Latinos, Europeans,Africans and people from the Middle East and Asia really know when a hit is global. Generally, we listen to the same hits, and when they overlap with each other, they truly are global SOS bigger than ANTI? i dont think so SOS ANTI Girl, I'm not even from the US SOS obliterates ANTI in the US. SOS smashed globally. It did well even in Asia which is usually a hard market for artists like SZA. ANTI's performance WW isn't that great, especially compared to other Rih albums. Kill Bill is bigger than all of ANTI's singles WW and many of the 2023 YE Charts havent even been revealed yet so what is that trying to prove exactly? Edited December 2, 2023 by State of Grace. 4 5 1
FolkLover1989 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, AvadaKedavra said: In the United States darling cause Worlwide those ANTI Hits eat her alive. I think Kill bill is one of the best songs of the last times and im shady to SZA but i love All Stars and Kiss me More and the song with maroon five tbh Dont mean to be rude cause youre one of my fave swifties here But You All of you there in The States are somewhat delusional and believe that just because something is big there, it's big worldwide, and that's not always the case. Many singers who have massive success there only have it there. In other countries, they are a non-factor. Just like when Taylor started and was more local to the United States in her first 3 eras Latinos, Europeans,Africans and people from the Middle East and Asia really know when a hit is global. Generally, we listen to the same hits, and when they overlap with each other, they truly are global SOS bigger than ANTI? i dont think so SOS ANTI The false info here omg At least wait for January to compare year ends. Also SOS is way bigger in USA SOS so far is trending as 3rd/2nd biggest MPG album of decade in US behind Sour and Midnights
Frogger17 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 10 hours ago, rihannafan said: Because those artists are also singers who can't sing and their songwriting is "spelling is fun" Over ten albums worth of material, accolades from the likes of Stevie Nicks and Bruce Springsteen, and yet ya'll keep running back to "haters gonna hate hate hate" and "Spelling is fun." The narrative is tired, and even if she only had those lyrics to her name, she'd still be ahead of Rih in songwriting. You thought you ate. 4 3
ImsoLOUD Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Frogger17 said: Over ten albums worth of material, accolades from the likes of Stevie Nicks and Bruce Springsteen, and yet ya'll keep running back to "haters gonna hate hate hate" and "Spelling is fun." The narrative is tired, and even if she only had those lyrics to her name, she'd still be ahead of Rih in songwriting. You thought you ate. We never stanned Rihanna because of “songwriting” to begin with, tho. As children listening to “Umbrella” do you honestly think we sat back and said “did she write this?? I should turn it off!” Her voice is iconic just ask Calvin Harris 3 1 5
Frogger17 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, ImsoLOUD said: We never stanned Rihanna because of “songwriting” to begin with, tho. As children listening to “Umbrella” do you honestly think we sat back and said “did she write this?? I should turn it off!” Her voice is iconic just ask Calvin Harris The main why anyone likes ANY song ever is mainly due to the song being good (the melody being catchy, production being infectious, etc.), and Rihanna has little to no say in the song being catchy, since she doesn't write. She has the same voice on those two Black Panther songs and American Oxygen as she has on her #1s, so why didn't anyone everyone buy and stream them if it's her voice that's making people stan? The fact that the Navy thinks that girl sells off of her voice and not the catchy hooks is the height of delusion and ya'll embarrass yourself every time you bring up her "unique tone" and "iconic" voice. Edited December 2, 2023 by Frogger17 5 4 1
Trainwreck Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Keep talking girl, I want Lana to win both SOTY and AOTY 2
Mirkomonster Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 And people thinks that ANTi was her personal and artistic album with Song written by others ? 5
BlossomSoul Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) After no good songs emerging that day, I can see SZA wanting to prove herself by showing them of what she CAN do to impress them and get future work. It's all about the power dynamic of an up and coming artist vs a huge artist Edited December 2, 2023 by BlossomSoul
TeemoR Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 That's why I'm glad Rihanna is gone from music, her and her 0 talents. Beyonce should be next tbh. Enough with talentless people stealing music to remain successful. 2 1 8 4
getBusy Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, TeemoR said: That's why I'm glad Rihanna is gone from music, her and her 0 talents. Beyonce should be next tbh. Enough with talentless people stealing music to remain successful. Ok ATRL user with 6k posts and -43 reputation points. 4
awong918 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 5 hours ago, JBJT2786 said: I didn't know you can read SZAs mind. Tell me when LANAs coming out. And I stan Rih and if this was the first time she's said this I'll look at her sideways but she's saying the same thing she's said for the last 7 years. Yall just looking for drama that's all. It doesn't matter what's in SZA's mind, but rather what's in the audience's mind after hearing SZA basically say "big artist Rihanna took away new song from aspiring new artist me, but it all worked out in the end!" And I don't know the story behind this and whether Rih is actually a thief, but either way I think it's ungrateful of SZA to be throwing shade at Rih when she pretty much jumpstarted her career.
lonnie Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Rihanna literally featured her on the song, made sure she got her proper credit, gave her the first worldwide platform she ever performed at, was supporting her and going to her shows before she blew up. Like this narrative that she was this mean person that was out to do nothing but suck this girl dry is so dumb If SZA had such a connection with the song, then she shouldn't have presented it. Period. And she wasn't some newbie and had spent several years in the industry by the time she was involved with Anti. And of course she can talk about it, but framing all this to make Rih the bad guy when she wasn't smart enough to keep the songs she wanted for herself outside of that session is something else Edited December 2, 2023 by lonnie 13
Bad_vocal_technique Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Everyone saying she shouldt have shown the song but there are many holes in the theory, like may be she didn’t know it could be taken away from her which makes it even more cruel. 1 1
getBusy Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Bad_vocal_technique said: Everyone saying she shouldt have shown the song but there are many holes in the theory, like may be she didn’t know it could be taken away from her which makes it even more cruel. So you show up to a writing camp thinking it’s just a high school sleepover and that’s Rihanna’s fault somehow? Please be serious. 5
lonnie Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bad_vocal_technique said: Everyone saying she shouldt have shown the song but there are many holes in the theory, like may be she didn’t know it could be taken away from her which makes it even more cruel. A song shown during a presentation wouldn't be taken? You walked into a writing session with several songs (Consideration wasn't the only song SZA presented, it was the only one Rihanna liked) and are surprised that one of the songs you showed was taken? Like what exactly was supposed to happen after she presented Consideration? It's very clear that only one of two things happens during these sessions (which SZA knew well): songs are either accepted or rejected. There's literally no in between. Like I really need to understand this other part? SZA was supposed to show Rihanna, Pharrell, and everyone else the song, they were supposed to be impressed and praise her after liking the song and afterwards send her on her way? And SZA was literally not contractually obligated to give that song away, no one forced her to give the song. She could have kept it for herself or found herself in court if she was mistreated and the song was "stolen". She instead took her part, took those royalty payments from the success of the song, stuck to the far-end spot of the BRITS stage when she performed the song with Rihanna. How on earth does she come out a victim in this scenario having her work stolen from with a great injustice done to her? Edited December 2, 2023 by lonnie 4
Bad_vocal_technique Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, getBusy said: So you show up to a writing camp thinking it’s just a high school sleepover and that’s Rihanna’s fault somehow? Please be serious. I would think many artists can take their own material to a writing session as a way to show what they are about/what they are capable of writing/inspiraron without knowing, legally it can also be taken away from them without their permission. Or at least that’s what I’m gathering from her testimony. Extremely naive from her course if that was the case. Edited December 2, 2023 by Bad_vocal_technique
Babydoll. Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 if the maybelline saleswoman and lemon hit-maker hadn't stolen it, scissors probably would have never released it. we'd be piecing together IG story snippets trying to build a full track. so for that, i am thankful 1
OGPanE Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 13 hours ago, Dolce Vita said: did nobody finish the video bc she literally said she’s happy everything worked out the way it did in the end Judging by the responses apparently not lmao
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