Cameltoe Chariot Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Great808 said: BTW Vogue Every other song by Madonna and Gaga on their albums Every other song recorded by Madonna and Gaga before they were famous that were never finished Large Margin Every other song by any other artist Another margin YNTCD The only factual response to OP!
Jay07 Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Vogue took a trend started in the gay underground and brought it to the mainstream while using the music video to spotlight its originators (Jose and Luis were part of the ballroom scene) and has become an enduring classic and one of Madonna's signature songs. Born this Way is fine but kind of clunky and cringe. I respect her for throwing her support behind the community but some of the lyrics have aged very badly and the song didn't really have the impact and longevity it was intended to. It's a Pride staple though, I guess. The other one is a pr exercise that only happened become it was commercially beneficial, like everything else she does. 9 5
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 30, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted November 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, spree said: "Vogue" and it's not even close. Born This Way was a big event, but in retrospect, it came and went pretty quickly. Vogue, on the other hand, has transcended generations. Isn't the new dance craze at the clubs right now literally vogueing? Taylor has done nothing for the gay community as far as I'm aware. Yes, people vogue but it's not because of Madonna. Not to downplay the importance of Vogue, because it's one of Madonna's best and most impactful songs of her career and introduced voguing to a slew of heteronormative fans who would have not known about it at the time otherwise. But the vogue scene has been a strong aspect of the LGBT community for years and if anything, you have the introduction of queer characters on shows like Drag Race that has popularized voguing for the new generation. 1
wish Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Will I be attacked by the Madinos if I say that it's Born This Way? 1 5 2
Goaty Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Stop bringing up YNTCD. I’m trying to forget about it! 2
Vroom Vroom Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 You forgot the pride classic Confident 1 1
Enrique523 Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Vogue is the only correct answer, let's be honest here 4
ultraviolence.xx Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 im convinced all BTW voters are trolling
The7thStranger Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 39 minutes ago, khalyan said: Yes, people vogue but it's not because of Madonna. Not to downplay the importance of Vogue, because it's one of Madonna's best and most impactful songs of her career and introduced voguing to a slew of heteronormative fans who would have not known about it at the time otherwise. But the vogue scene has been a strong aspect of the LGBT community for years and if anything, you have the introduction of queer characters on shows like Drag Race that has popularized voguing for the new generation. We have to give it to Madonna for putting the House of Xtravaganza on her world stage, though. 1 4
Vixen Eyes Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Vogue >>>> BTW >> YNTCD in literally ever question grouping them together 1
Popular Post Slayn Posted November 30, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 30, 2023 YNTCD actually set us back a bit. Vogue. 4 2 9
dawnettakins Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Not the sneak. 1 of these is not like the others. 1
Price of Fame Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 I don't think a single BTW voter actually believes this
dawnettakins Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Price of Fame said: I don't think a single BTW voter actually believes this Funny how no one is saying this about those who actually, legitimately voted for YNTCD. Edited November 30, 2023 by dawnettakins 1
kataraqueen Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 BTW has a bit of a funny message. I'm not a freak lmao. And she did this after the height of metrosexualism xd Vogue takes queer culture, which was actually seen as something horrible and disease ridden, and appreciated it, and made it look like something cool Madonna introduced her audience to queer people. Lady Gaga alienated her audience for queer people. 5 2
JennyWayne Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Notice how LGBTQ+ acceptance has been declining since 2019 I see some causation here 1 13
nostalgic Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 The song that namedrops the entire LGBT acronym + drag queens, in plain English with no obfuscation or double entendres. 2
kataraqueen Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, nostalgic said: The song that namedrops the entire LGBT acronym + drag queens, in plain English with no obfuscation or double entendres. If that namedropping was so influential then why can't you just type out the entire acronym when you talk about it?
nostalgic Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, kataraqueen said: If that namedropping was so influential then why can't you just type out the entire acronym when you talk about it? 2
taylamour Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 It definitely depends on the demo you're asking. Vogue obviously mainstreamed at a lot of queer culture, but BTW had a different impact (probs more mental health-related) to a newer generation.
Cain Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 As much as people like to **** on BTW, Gaga dedicated the lead single to her highly anticipated comeback after her peak era to out loud sing ‘no matter gay, straight or bi, lesbian transgender life, I’m on the right track baby you were born to survive’ and I think that’s worth something The answer is still Vogue, but BTW isn’t a weird contender The other pinkwashing cash grab one however… 3 1
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